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6th Generation iPod Tracking For Late 2007? Early 2008?
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I still see Apple being able to release a widescreen iPod before iPhone is released. They're two different products, at two WAY different price points.
It could be possible, I just bought a 4GB flash drive off Amazon for £20, now surely you could just combine 8 of them (£160) to make a 6G iPod, which means the iPod could be sold for £190 given Apple's discount surely?
I suppose it is more expensive for the 80GB iPod, but they don't sell many of them do they?
I suppose it is more expensive for the 80GB iPod, but they don't sell many of them do they?
Major Apple Srew-up Danger!
i keep getting the feeling apple is betting the farm on the iphone. we have been waiting like lemmings for new software and nothing is in sight. apple might have all their resources focused on the stupid phone. lets face it, nobody is going to buy it just for a bigger display than an ipod! so i hope steve's thinking is not to hold back on new ipods in order to 'support' the freakin phone. my guess is the phone will bomb unless there is a *real* good phone/data plan to go with it. i pay sprint 15 bux a month for unlimited data. no way would i switch to sign up with att to pay 40 or more for the same thing....
i keep getting the feeling apple is betting the farm on the iphone. we have been waiting like lemmings for new software and nothing is in sight. apple might have all their resources focused on the stupid phone. lets face it, nobody is going to buy it just for a bigger display than an ipod! so i hope steve's thinking is not to hold back on new ipods in order to 'support' the freakin phone. my guess is the phone will bomb unless there is a *real* good phone/data plan to go with it. i pay sprint 15 bux a month for unlimited data. no way would i switch to sign up with att to pay 40 or more for the same thing....
Pfff... this full video iPod has been rumored for over 1,5 years now and now they are again delaying it untill late 2007? Come on apple... I want to replace my 2nd gen with this new iPod and I've been waiting for this way too long already. Release the damn thing.
I think they will about a month afterward so as not to canabalise their iPhone sales as much - although how soon I dont know, since they may want to do them for Christmas meaning 3rd/4th quater would make sense.
I think it's pretty risky for apple to be waiting about. The nano may be the biggest seller but the large capacity/video market is very important.
People in the market for a video player tend to be tech savvy and hold a lot of influence amongst their friends and family. Right now the Zune is a damn good alternative to the 5.5G ipod, and a delayed 6G is exactly what the Zune brand needs.
People in the market for a video player tend to be tech savvy and hold a lot of influence amongst their friends and family. Right now the Zune is a damn good alternative to the 5.5G ipod, and a delayed 6G is exactly what the Zune brand needs.
i, too, am waiting for that full-screen 120GB ipod. sold all my other ipods (except my 1G shuffle) in anticipation of this ipod. while it stinks that it won't come out until probably this fall, i understand apple not wanting to cannibalize its iphone sales.
still, they're drastically different products aimed at very different users...8GB of shared memory will not entice the person who wants to watch a lot of videos...and certainly nowhere enough for the audiophile who listens to uncompressed music. given that the customer base is very different, i don't think a full-video ipod will decrease iphone sales all that much...
still, they're drastically different products aimed at very different users...8GB of shared memory will not entice the person who wants to watch a lot of videos...and certainly nowhere enough for the audiophile who listens to uncompressed music. given that the customer base is very different, i don't think a full-video ipod will decrease iphone sales all that much...
I thought 640 x 360 Wide Video iPod would preceede iPhone this Spring. This is bad news for owners of old Video iPods. I'm crushed.
Heh, heh. How about owners of aging, dying 3G iPods?
*cough*me*cough*. I want to jump on the widescreen iPod as soon as it comes out, but despite the fact that it will come after the iPhone, it may still have "1st-Gen" woes that tech products often have.
oh man,
I am so tired of waiting for this widescreen iPod.
Last September we were all expecting it. Now maybe earlier next year!
you must be kidding!
This should be announce now. Dam iPhone! I think they are delaying the iPod just because of iPhone.
I am so tired of waiting for this widescreen iPod.
Last September we were all expecting it. Now maybe earlier next year!
you must be kidding!
This should be announce now. Dam iPhone! I think they are delaying the iPod just because of iPhone.
Here is the opportunity for Apple to build the ULTIMATE presetation tool and MUCH MORE.
New generation iPod FULL-SCREEN VIDEO.
Built on iPhone specifications without phone capabilities.
Booting full Mac OS X.
Wireless.
OPEN TO DEVELOPERS.
FireWire 800 & USB2.
Versions with standard and also flash disk inside.
Now, make you Keynote or PowerPoint presentation on Mac or PC-Windows. Move the NATIVE presentation file to the iPod Video. Carry it with you and use it as the ultimate handheld wireless computerless presentation remote. A COMPUTER IN YOUR HAND.
Huge halo effect on all corporate, education and domestic markets.
We are just waiting for it to order thousands for our University.
SPACE TO GROW. In the future, as flash memory becomes cheaper and larger, it can be used to carry all your Mac stuff with you. Your files, your HOME folder, your applications and even your WHOLE desktop Mac inside the iPod Video. All in your HAND. Wow!!!
EVEN MORE: THE NEWTON REINVENTED!!!
New generation iPod FULL-SCREEN VIDEO.
Built on iPhone specifications without phone capabilities.
Booting full Mac OS X.
Wireless.
OPEN TO DEVELOPERS.
FireWire 800 & USB2.
Versions with standard and also flash disk inside.
Now, make you Keynote or PowerPoint presentation on Mac or PC-Windows. Move the NATIVE presentation file to the iPod Video. Carry it with you and use it as the ultimate handheld wireless computerless presentation remote. A COMPUTER IN YOUR HAND.
Huge halo effect on all corporate, education and domestic markets.
We are just waiting for it to order thousands for our University.
SPACE TO GROW. In the future, as flash memory becomes cheaper and larger, it can be used to carry all your Mac stuff with you. Your files, your HOME folder, your applications and even your WHOLE desktop Mac inside the iPod Video. All in your HAND. Wow!!!
EVEN MORE: THE NEWTON REINVENTED!!!
agreed.
i have a 60GB right now, and i won't go lower than that. i'm really hoping for the 6G iPod to be the iPhone minus networking capabilities, and with increased storage. this is probably too much to hope for, though.
The manufacturing cost difference would be low and I suspect what you really want is a lower price point. For Apple that simply means lower margins for essentially the same product.
I for one am hoping to see an iPhone PLUS one of those Seagate microdrives at 120gb. It might fit in the SIM slot area and eliminate GSM in the USA.
So just add 802.16 wimax
The Apple folks below Steve have already stated confidence in, and commitment to, each existing iPod form factor: shuffle, nano, iPod.
Any other product would be in addition.
The iPhone itself is presented AS A HIGH-END IPOD. So there you go.
The purpose of the phone scheme on iPhone, 802.11+EDGE, is to get people accustomed to VOIP leading up to wimax deployment.
Rocketman
I can see delaying the widescreen/multitouch 6g video iPod into next year... IF Apple releases lower-end iPhones. A cheaper, less-capable iPhone (no Internet/smartphone, just voice/iPod) could battle for sales with a full-size video iPod at first, so I can see one of the two being delayed.
Both do seem very likely in the end, though--a touch iPod and a low-end iPhone.
Now, give me 16-32 GB flash in a ver. B iPhone late this year and I will be very happy
Both do seem very likely in the end, though--a touch iPod and a low-end iPhone.
Now, give me 16-32 GB flash in a ver. B iPhone late this year and I will be very happy
Perhaps, but how soon do you think WiMax will be deployed throughout the U.S.? I'm certainly not going to hold my breath. I don't think the economics of it will come into place for another few years yet.
If I'm wrong and it happens sooner, and Apple throws that into the iPhone, color me wrong and very happy.
Well, since the iPhone is set to play music, photos, video and email with only 4GB of RAM, I wouldn't be surprised if they released "only" a 32GB flash based model. I know video consumes a lot of RAM, but honestly, there are syncing options in iTunes that are set to work for people's needs. You don't need every song, video or photo loaded on the device. Besides, when Apple releases an 80GB version later, you will feel compelled to buy yet another device from them.
We are talking about a business here, and for iPhone to succeed, it will likely rely on a lot of the success of the iPod. New iPod with similar design released within six months of the phone will likely cannibalize sales.
Next year sounds about right to me.. and frankly, with a new model coming out with newer features every year, maybe sticking with what you've got for a year or two isn't necessarily a bad thing on the pocketbook. If you're buying an iPhone afterall, you're going to be "stuck" with it with a two year contract anyway.
We are talking about a business here, and for iPhone to succeed, it will likely rely on a lot of the success of the iPod. New iPod with similar design released within six months of the phone will likely cannibalize sales.
Next year sounds about right to me.. and frankly, with a new model coming out with newer features every year, maybe sticking with what you've got for a year or two isn't necessarily a bad thing on the pocketbook. If you're buying an iPhone afterall, you're going to be "stuck" with it with a two year contract anyway.
You should try using my 3rd gen iPod! The hard drive is definitely the reason why the thing is so sluggish - especially when viewing Notes. On my wife's nano the menus are much more responsive and snappy
I was really hoping the 6th gen would be out in the first half of this year as I wanted to upgrade. But hey... I guess I'll have to wait that lil' bit longer.
RodC
I would say that the iPod would be the iPhone without WiFi, Cellphone and camera. Bluetooth would make sense though.
I doubt Apple is going to hold back the widescreen iPod. They are probably waiting to release it when they show us Tiger stuff.
Heh, heh. How about owners of aging, dying 3G iPods?
just do what I did, I got a cheap 2 GB nano (even used is ok) just to hold me off until the real thing comes along. and as a matter of fact, i think im gonna stick with my little petit nano cause i like it so much even though ive got like 27 GB of music and videos.
Marx55 said:
You sad, sad little boy. Christmas isn't coming for you... you think that they would put FULL OS X on a handheld, along with all files and shyte, and not have any internet access?! And OS X is already open to developers... plus, FW800 doesnt make sense when nearly all potential users run PCs that dont support FW800, which is why Apple killed FW on the iPod.
As for the presentation-on-the-go aspect... lets see, which has more appeal: an iPresentation device, or a MacBook Pro Tablet? Its like hypothesizing that Apple will start selling XP (for boot camp, or rather Vista now) on its computers? Its a half-good idea that would bring them a lot of money, but it aint gonna happen based on principle.
Talking about principle, theres a reason why the Newton was killed off as well, and its not just because Gilbert Amelio made it.
so overall.... *slap* time to wake up.....
Actually, I'm thinking it has more to do with the batteries.
Listed battery life:
30 GB model: music - 14 hours; video - 3.5 hours
80 GB model: music - 20 hours; video - 6.5 hours
-which makes me think the battery in the 80 GB model is a fair bit thicker.
The 30GB drives are single platters, whilst the 80GB is two platters.
You can get single platter 1.8" hard drives up to 60GB, and two platter 1.8" hard drives up to 120GB - of course these two products are the cream of the product range, hence Apple use the 30 and 80. Odd that Apple didn't up their product to 40GB just to have 10GB more than the Zune though.
I can see Apple releasing a 16GB iPod nano towards the end of this year. Therefore a 32GB iPod is not out of the question, but I expect Apple to premium price this because it is (a) slim, (b) longer battery life, (c) 32GB flash is going to cost quite a bit still. Apple should still sell hard drive based players in my opinion, 40GB and 100GB give or take a bit. These will be a good price per GB, but not as competitive on the aforementioned aspects.