I think it's Moore(pun) about the removing bottlenecks in the architecture than increasing clock speed, like how 2008 3.8? Is slower than 2009 2.93 or something, also don't the extremes auto overclock? But that said, I'd love to break the 4ghz barrier on a mac...
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7/13: Air, Imac, or PRO!??
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I think it's Moore(pun) about the removing bottlenecks in the architecture than increasing clock speed, like how 2008 3.8? Is slower than 2009 2.93 or something, also don't the extremes auto overclock? But that said, I'd love to break the 4ghz barrier on a mac...
Why would you think september? Thats their big iPod month and when iPad will get 4.0. When the keynote for WWDC was on, all it talked about was iOS 4, no Mac Pro. I don't see why they would update their most powerful computer the same time they update their little iPods. But this is Apple, nobody knows.
Personally, I don't consider adding a single new option to a computer to be an update to the whole line.
Actually, Apple still call it the "Early 2009" Mac Pro. There are no newer models in the database, so the speed bump doesn't count.
Whatever I might think about the Mac Pro, it hasn't gotten an update for a long, long time.
Moore's law is about transistor counts not clock speeds. Microarchitectural improvements in a core tend to increase the size of the core, so that's a reason for the gradual increase in core counts (also previously external components such as an integrated GPU are being placed on the CPU package or die).
Besides clock speed there are per-core improvements and core count increases, and Intel has done both in the last few generations of their CPUs. Bottlenecks have been reduced by features such as QuickPath.
Well, you seem to have some knowledge on the subject, when if ever will we see 4,5,6 ghz processors?
You can already see those - you just don't see them from the factory that way. Well, for 4 and 5 GHz, at least. Don't think anybody's reached 6 GHz yet.
That's funny I was just researching OC ing mac pros, do you have any good links with more info?
If you look at the specs of the MacPro the 8 core machine is still plenty fast for many pro applications.
The issue I would have with Apple is that they are essentially charging the same amount for technology that is over a year old. While on the open market the value of technology -this technology (CPUs Video Cards etc) has significantly diminished over time.
Therefore anyone buying a MacPro today is receiving substantially less value than the buyer who purchased a Mac Pro back in 3/09.
Why Apple won't implement a sliding price structure tied to the actual market prices they are paying for this technology contained in their Pro line is beyond me. This would provide value fairness to their pro customers who wish to upgrade later in Apple's upgrade cycle while not altering their original profit margins in the least.
The issue I would have with Apple is that they are essentially charging the same amount for technology that is over a year old. While on the open market the value of technology -this technology (CPUs Video Cards etc) has significantly diminished over time.
Therefore anyone buying a MacPro today is receiving substantially less value than the buyer who purchased a Mac Pro back in 3/09.
Why Apple won't implement a sliding price structure tied to the actual market prices they are paying for this technology contained in their Pro line is beyond me. This would provide value fairness to their pro customers who wish to upgrade later in Apple's upgrade cycle while not altering their original profit margins in the least.
Nevertheless, overall computing speed hasn't doubled every xx months or whatever it states as far as I can tell. Maybe supercomputers.
again, I suspect that they keep the prices high so it doesn't appear that the new models are way above what the older model was selling at. It makes new purchasers feel like they are getting more for the same money or something like that.
Sorry for the triple post (yes, I know I can combine), but anyway you can overclock the 2008 mac pro with a zdnet utility, even in Snow Leopard. It's not quite like in PC's since it just zooms everything up and the memory becomes the limit, especially since you can't increase the voltages like you would on a PC, but it does work until system shut down. I think they stopped updating it after 2008 so 2009 probably doesn't work.
This. Lowering prices on existing products would mean a price hike whenever the update happens. No one would be happy about that.