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7.85 iPad Will be a game changer

aziatiklover said:
Let me guess the 13" mbp hurts the 15" mbp, and the 15" mbp hurts the 17"m mbp amirite? :rolleyes: oh and i forgot the 11" mba hurts the 13" mba or matter fact all the mbp line! I'm sure it wont hurt much cuz millions of ppl like me will own both size!

Look at how millions of ppl own an ipad, and still go buy themself a kindle fire when it was hot. Now they are all moving to the nexus 7.
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Well regarding the 17", they did just discontinue that due to weak sales...
 
Dmunjal said:
You guys know nothing about market segmentation. Yes, it will steal some 9.7 sales but overall they will sell more units with two options vs. one.
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You... are 100% correct.

Despite the hero worship & dialog "Steve" would have done this or that. Steve would not have approved this or that. The man is dead. That was then. This is now.

I do understand their fear of choices, its the iToyz effect. But the smaller iPad, if it does materialize, will ad more profit to Apples bottom line.

There's no downside. It's no different than the choices we have in MBA's or MBP's.
 
ucfgrad93 said:
I don't think it will be a game changer. That said, I do think it will be very popular and will certainly take lots of sales from the Nexus 7 & Kindle Fire.
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You dont think an ipad mini will sell more than the kindle or nexus
 
How the hell can something that DOES NOT EXIST and is nothing more than a rumor at best, be a game changer? It can't be anything until it actually exists.
 
Tortri said:
Sure there is the Kindle Fire and Nexus 7 but the iPad 7.85(iPad Mini) I think will outsell the regular iPad and possibly the iPhone. Regardless of speculated specs, the iPad Mini will do so well because Apple has deals with Major Book Companies like McGraw Hill, etc. having a MAJOR foothold into education. Which means this iPad will be in practically a majority of schools in the US with in a 2 or 3 year span.

With a $250 iPad, its just cheap enough to afford, thin and small being durable(Gorilla glass), be portable but yet capable for normal reading(book replacement) and if apple reduces the thickness of the screen I wouldn't be surprised if they increased the battery life of the iPad mini to something like 15 hours(compromise slight weight gain for life) which makes it very feasible to replace a book.

Long battery life, affordable, thinness, durability, major book companies support, apple reliability. = Apple has a Winner

I'm coming from the fact that apple has major book company support and apple reliability. Those two together is the big bang and will change the tablet world into something else, star trek ish as in everyone owns one.. that is the standard.

Edit- With that said if Apple Add's NFC to the iPad Mini it'll also take off.
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Outsell the iPhone, no way. It's not even real.

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Che Castro said:
You dont think an ipad mini will sell more than the kindle or nexus
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It will cost much more.

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gquiring said:
It will hurt the 9.5" inch iPad market but it will also increase the market share where they loose sales to the Kindle and Nook. Apple needs more variety in their products, one size fits all does not work for everyone.
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Worked well with the iPhone.
 
Rodster said:
Exactly my thoughts. I own a Kindle Fire and it's great for everything until you use it for the Web. Then the experience becomes frustrating and falls apart. :p
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That was my experience as well. Sold my Fire and bought the new iPad. The WWW is a text & graphics medium. The smaller Fire screen did not handle it well in my experience. Not only was the screen too small but the screen was not nearly as responsive as the iPad. Others may be willing to put up with the smaller screen - not me.
 
jlinear said:
That was my experience as well. Sold my Fire and bought the new iPad. The WWW is a text & graphics medium. The smaller Fire screen did not handle it well in my experience. Not only was the screen too small but the screen was not nearly as responsive as the iPad. Others may be willing to put up with the smaller screen - not me.
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Yeah, I don't know how those 150 million iPhone users do it!
 
TheWheelMan said:
How the hell can something that DOES NOT EXIST and is nothing more than a rumor at best, be a game changer? It can't be anything until it actually exists.
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I'm guessing that's why the thread title is "will be" a game changer -- if it exists.
 
Almost everyone is not comprehending the book deal with major publishers. Once implemented and having the device at I would guess $250 (iPad 2 being $399, smaller size would dictate 250, 300). affordable which means schools will implement the iPad as a book replacement. Small, affordable, book replacement.

As well as more people can now afford a iPad. This will sell more than the ipad2/3 just tailing behind the iPhone. Now you have a "PDA" per say in a huge majority of hands. It'll be almost if not standardize maybe even a requirement later down the road to own one. After schools get this in kids hands it'll be the standard 3 or 4 years down the road.
 
jlinear said:
Yeah, and I'm sure the iPhone is their primary and preferred way to access the Internet - NOT!
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Come on now. Are you saying every iPhone user doesn't use the Internet? That they all have iPads with them? And 3G ones at that?

Of course, a laptop or iPad is better but there are plenty of people who get by with the iPhone and its excellent browser.

My point is that a 7" screen is going to be a very nice browsing experience.
 
class77 said:
A 7.85" iPad will hurt 9.5" iPad sales. It's just a dumb move when Apple already owns the market
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If it has a low price-point it would also capture the iPod Touch demographic, which would be good for Apple since they'll be able to finally kick the touch to the curb.

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jlinear said:
Yeah, and I'm sure the iPhone is their primary and preferred way to access the Internet - NOT!
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When nothing else is available the iPhone suffices, yeah.
 
Dmunjal said:
Come on now. Are you saying every iPhone user doesn't use the Internet? That they all have iPads with them? And 3G ones at that?

Of course, a laptop or iPad is better but there are plenty of people who get by with the iPhone and its excellent browser.

My point is that a 7" screen is going to be a very nice browsing experience.
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On my iPhone I use Mobile Sites because they fit the screen size. I generally never use the full web site. On my iPad I can use the full web site because of the screen size. On the iPad Mini I would have to see which one I would use because of the smaller screen. Really not sure how much smaller the screen can be for ME to use the full web sites.
 
mrsir2009 said:
If it has a low price-point it would also capture the iPod Touch demographic, which would be good for Apple since they'll be able to finally kick the touch to the curb.

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When nothing else is available the iPhone suffices, yeah.
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How would kicking the iPod Touch to the curb be a good thing for Apple? With the Galaxy Player 3.6/4.0/5.0 (which is selling well) out they'd be foolish to drop the iPod Touch in favor for a iPad Mini. A 7" tablet is going to make a pretty piss poor media player at the gym for instance.

The two devices are not geared towards the same person. For one, I highly doubt a 7.85" tablet from Apple is going to have more than 8/16GB of space when it first comes out because a bigger capacity will put the device in the same price range as the larger iPad.

What I think may happen is the iPod Touch will still be on sale but the prices will drop one step and the capacity will go up one step. Just for instance:
iPad Mini 8GB - $250
iPod Touch 16GB - $200
iPad Mini 16GB - $300
iPod Touch 32GB - $250
iPod Touch 64GB - $300
iPod Touch 128GB (wishful thinking) - $400

Removing the iPod Touch means they would let the Galaxy Player go unchecked essentially leaving the market of a ultra-portable media player open to the competition.
 
mcman77 said:
lol do the 13" MBP do the same to the 15" Pros?? :eek:
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Well actually the 13s (previous generation) outsold both the 15s and the MacBook Air by a huge margin, despite arguably combining the worst parts of each rather than the best.

I think though, that if there is a smaller iPad, it will broaden the category, rather than cannibalize it. I don't think Apple will match the competition on price, but go for about $50 higher, in order to make it a more desirable, premium product, even in the lower end of the market.
 
I also don't think it'll be a game changer. I have a Blackberry Playbook 7" tablet and with that tiny screen it's painful to use. I always seek refuge back to the 10" iPad.
 
The big question is what will the price point be.

I just don't see Apple selling it for $199. The lowest I think they'll go is $250, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it was $299.

$299 - 7.9 inch iPad Mini 1st Gen
$399 - iPad 2
$499 - iPad 3rd Gen.

Just my guesses. Also have to consider if they'll offer larger storage sizes for the iPad Mini. Don't know how that'd play out. $299 would be 16 GB starting.

Who knows. I guess we'll see.
 
I would like to see an iPod/iPad size that would fit in the car dash in place of the current radio/gps. The size should fit the primary use.
 
iEvolution said:
How would kicking the iPod Touch to the curb be a good thing for Apple? With the Galaxy Player 3.6/4.0/5.0 (which is selling well) out they'd be foolish to drop the iPod Touch in favor for a iPad Mini. A 7" tablet is going to make a pretty piss poor media player at the gym for instance.

The two devices are not geared towards the same person. For one, I highly doubt a 7.85" tablet from Apple is going to have more than 8/16GB of space when it first comes out because a bigger capacity will put the device in the same price range as the larger iPad.

What I think may happen is the iPod Touch will still be on sale but the prices will drop one step and the capacity will go up one step. Just for instance:
iPad Mini 8GB - $250
iPod Touch 16GB - $200
iPad Mini 16GB - $300
iPod Touch 32GB - $250
iPod Touch 64GB - $300
iPod Touch 128GB (wishful thinking) - $400

Removing the iPod Touch means they would let the Galaxy Player go unchecked essentially leaving the market of a ultra-portable media player open to the competition.
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Sales from the entire iPod line are declining, and there aren't too many ways in which they can improve the iPod Touch without bringing it dangerously close to cannibalizing iPhone sales. Apple has to do something about the iPod line, the flagship product is showing it's age, and the Classic is even worse off than the Mac Pro... They need something fresh, something more uniform.
 
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