I just watched it again. Go to the 1.00hr mark in the video. Phil says in the very beginning that the sensor is "larger and faster, and will bring in 83% more light", deeper pixels, and new color filter".
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I just watched it again. Go to the 1.00hr mark in the video. Phil says in the very beginning that the sensor is "larger and faster, and will bring in 83% more light", deeper pixels, and new color filter".
yeah I just watched that part again and he used the term "bigger". Well this may be the biggest improvement for iphone 8 then.
LOL you need to check your hearing. Phil said "larger and faster". Anyway...I have a 7+ and I paid sales tax only for the 8+, totally justified imo.
Truth. Tried 4. Returned them all. 7+ jacked the skin tones of my kids while taking amazing images of everything else. Was able to show Apple comparisons between 6S+ & 7+ and they agreed. Could provide no date on resolution so went back to 6S+. Many will never notice the noise & watercolor issues.
I think the 7 and 8 has little photo quality result differences at a glance, in fact we may not able to tell which phone it was if a same object taken by the 7 n 8, at the same time.
I wonder why they wouldnt mention that on the spec page for the comparisons then? I guess maybe they see it like RAM The teardowns will tell the true story
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i didn't watch the keynote, but like many of you, i'm always eager to improve the one camera i always have with me.
i'll add this:
the x model has a 2.4 aperture on the 56mm lens vs the plus model's 2.8 aperture. so there's a slight speed increase that the x model has. but 'physics don't lie'... meaning, there's no 'more light' coming in when comparing the 7 & 8 models. so if they're talking about 'speed' increase, it's not in the traditional, photographic sense of the word... maybe on the post processing end, though.
also, about the x model's 2.4 aperture... i wonder if it gained that speed by having the sensor set further back into the camera body compared to the plus model.
i'll add this:
the x model has a 2.4 aperture on the 56mm lens vs the plus model's 2.8 aperture. so there's a slight speed increase that the x model has. but 'physics don't lie'... meaning, there's no 'more light' coming in when comparing the 7 & 8 models. so if they're talking about 'speed' increase, it's not in the traditional, photographic sense of the word... maybe on the post processing end, though.
also, about the x model's 2.4 aperture... i wonder if it gained that speed by having the sensor set further back into the camera body compared to the plus model.
I think they have been overly processing images with software and hardware, I found too much smoothing, maybe that’s what you mean by watercolor. Did you ever try shooting with another app on the 7+ or even raw? Regardless, I was also not impressed with the 7+ I’ll keep my 6+ For now, and I’ll try the X camera in the store to see how it stacks up.
I was also kind of disappointed when I used the 7. The photos had so much noise even in the brightest light. Maybe I got a bad sensor or something but the iPhone 6 had really nice photos. IPhone just overprocessed them.
They could really improve on this one
They could really improve on this one
Thanks for finding. But question is Larger in comparison to what? The 7+ or the 8 4.7 inch?
Teardowns should tell next week
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Larger pixels on the new sensors allows them to capture more light, same principal as a cropped body DSLR having smaller pixels than a full-frame body DSLR, so the full-frame sensor is able to capture more light and deliver better images as a result.
The iPhone 7/plus uses the same 1/3" sensor size that's been in the 6. For comparison the note 8 uses at 1/2.55" sensor so i'm hoping we something similar to that or even something like a 1/2.3" that sony have been using.
The sensors in the main camera are all the same for every generation. So 6s=6s+ and 7=7+ and 8=8+=X
The question is just how much can a sensor improve the picture quality. Watching the keynote for iPhone 7 again they told about 50% percent more light for the iPhone 7 but all I can see is more noise and no more details than with the 6s so thats only software in my opinion.
And I smell this will also happen to the 8.
Lol it shouldn't be that big. I have a Samsung Galaxy S8 plus and an iPhone 7 plus laying around and the Samsung is the same height but a tad skinnier. The note 8 screen is only 0,1 inch bigger so I would expect it to be similar.
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In phones the sensor size plays a huge role in image quality. With DSLRS the same is true but lenses play a larger role. If the sensor is larger, we should see less noise and better image quality. Should be getting sharper images with the faster sensor since it collects more light which allows faster shutter speeds and lower ISO. The only thing that can ruin the quality would be how the new A11 chip processes this information. I also really wish Apple would support RAW natively. That would give us full control of how the image is processed.
The 7+ has a good camera imo. I like the dynamic range especially when shooting RAW. Here's a couple to compare. You just have to know how to use the camera!
In phones the sensor size plays a huge role in image quality. With DSLRS the same is true but lenses play a larger role. If the sensor is larger, we should see less noise and better image quality. Should be getting sharper images with the faster sensor since it collects more light which allows faster shutter speeds and lower ISO. The only thing that can ruin the quality would be how the new A11 chip processes this information. I also really wish Apple would support RAW natively. That would give us full control of how the image is processed.
The 7+ has a good camera imo. I like the dynamic range especially when shooting RAW. Here's a couple to compare. You just have to know how to use the camera!
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I can just agree!
The camera ist good, but that also applies to my current iPhone 6. Adjusting the settings can improve the pictures extremely. But all in all I think the iPhone ist about taking snapshots and if the camera can’t do better than the iPhone 7 especially when it comes to noise and overprocessing it is no real improvement for every day use.
Well it can be inferred that a larger sensor will capture more light being that the aperture has remained the same.