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72% of Enterprise Employees Choose Macs Over PCs, 75% Pick iOS Devices Over Android

bmot said:
I guess Windows users got more used to Mac functionality in recent years since Windows copied the hell from MacOS for it latest versions. Hence the jump to Mac seems more easy.
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And here I thought it was Mac copying the hell from Windows, with High Sierra being flakier than a box of Frosted Flakes.
 
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mi7chy said:
Usually only mom and pop shops allow you to choose but large enterprises are predominately Windows and Linux in most major industries. Occasionally, software development or media departments might be more Mac focused.
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Developer here, and no, for software development the option is Windows and Linux, Mac applies only for some web development and mac/ios development.
 
We were given a choice of a low end HP laptop or a MacBook Pro.
Guess which one I picked .

Now if the Win10 laptop was of equal quality as the MacBook, I'd take the Win10 laptop.
Higher compatibility with our Dev apps.

Right now I have to use a Citrix desktop for half my work. I don't see how the Mac solution ever made it past accounting.
 
oldoneeye said:
I work in a very large corp. Apple just became available for all, and I'd say this ratio looks about right..... . still think they need to provide more RAM for corp customers on the MBP .... 16GB is OK now, but will it be in 2 years time - I'd like some headroom.

Better docking solutions would also be great ....
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The Intel chips in use in the MBP's can only address 16GB of the type of RAM that Apple uses (with lower power requirements). So, it's not about being unwilling to supply 32GB, it's about being unwilling at this point to change lots of things to do with power and heat, including the laptop's case design. Intel has been slow to improve its range of lower-power CPU's.
 
I work at a state-owned university. We upgrade our computer hardware on a 5-year cycle, where we can choose between a Lenovo all-in-one (default) or an iMac. Most of the colleagues in my department are not tech savvy, and during the last replenishment cycle made the jump to Mac. Most of this was driven by the number of problems they had with their previous Lenovos (some of it was the system, some of it was user error). Coincidently, our current department adoption rate for Macs is... 71.4%.
 
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urtules said:
I used to work at place where they give you Lenovo laptop and there’s no other options. After deleting Windows, installing Ubuntu and working for 2 month I gave up and started to bring my MacBook Air from home. I managed to spend their more than a year until they noticed and I had to quit.

Enterprise is so tricky, they always try to lock stuff down and add friction everything. More freedom I have, more productive I am.
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For every person like you that benefits from being free of enterprise IT there are hundreds of people that cause their own issues.

I worked as a system admin at a company that allowed users all admin rights to their machines, the moment we removed that power from end users ticket volume dropped significantly. Certain people can handle that responsibility and do their job better with it, but most just cause their own issues.
 
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I am the IT director for an organization of approximately 350 users and we have been offering a choice of platform to our users for the last 7 years. In that time, we have seen similar adoption numbers compared to what this survey indicates.

We are standardized around Office 365, which has near feature-parity between Mac and PC, and all of our apps are platform agnostic. Typically we deploy a ThinkPad T4_0 or a 13" MacBook Pro if there are no extraordinary needs. The initial capital expense is typically lower with the ThinkPad but the TCO is generally in favor of the MBP, in part, because our helpdesk gets far fewer calls regarding our Macs.
 
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Mac is still ridiculously expensive for business. Only Large companies with Discount and TCO calculation could win those argument. And the problem is Apple doesn't offer a decent bottom line up any more. Mac mini? MacBook Air?

Oh, what is the most important for business users? Screen? Power Performance? Battery? No, it is Reliability!, so don't get me started on MBP's keyboard.
 
If over half of the enterprises offer a choice and over 70% of employees choose Mac, how does it come that the market share is so low?

The 'study' has to be cherry picking somehow. I guess it's the percentage of enterprises offering to choose between Mac and PC. Over half of them seems to be extremely high.
 
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blogcraft said:
Developer here, and no, for software development the option is Windows and Linux, Mac applies only for some web development and mac/ios development.
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Um, Mac does just as well as Linux for a LOT of software development.

And how can it be just "some" web development -- unless you mean just about everything that is used on the web today (ie not .net and Flash)? Ruby, javascript, php, python.., etc.: all fine. The Unix style SSH terminal, etc. on Mac OS is very compliant and easy to use with current web and programming standards for all sorts of server configurations, platforms and languages (our Windows-based devs have much more trouble doing basic standards compliant things).
 
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Wowereit said:
If over half of the enterprises offer a choice and over 70% of employees choose Mac, how does it come that the market share is so low?

The 'study' has to be cherry picking somehow. I guess it's the percentage of enterprises offering to choose between Mac and PC. Over half of them seems to be extremely high.
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You are conflating the enterprise market with the consumer market. PC and Android have greater market share in the consumer market, which is always far larger than the enterprise market.
 
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I work for one of the largest IT services companies in the world and we have seen similar results; i.e., when employees are given a choice (most of us), we choose Mac. And Macs work better and cause far fewer calls to our HD / service desk, given better self-service options.

We refresh every four years, and I was thrilled to be given the choice three years ago to move to MBP. I can't imagine having to go back to Windows laptop of any kind :(
 
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blogcraft said:
Developer here, and no, for software development the option is Windows and Linux, Mac applies only for some web development and mac/ios development.
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Another developer here. macOS can be used to develop software using Java, any Javascript framework, .NET Core, and now we have Docker. macOS also supports frameworks like Xamarin for mobile development. Choice of OS for development is quickly becoming irrelevant.
 
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pl1984 said:
It's my observation people are no more productive in the enterprise with a Mac. In fact it's the opposite. I can't tell you how many times I've waited on a conference call while a Mac user has to restart their virtual machine so they can present. All too often I see people having to work around Mac limitations which exist because it's a PC world. They seem to be oblivious to the extra work they're having to do to work within a PC ecosystem.

IMO many choose a Mac based on fashion / form more than functionality.
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I was a Mac evangelist when I had a corporate gig years before the iPhone won the hearts of the uninitiated. Eventually, I realized that the platform used didn't matter enough. Sure, Windows was prone to frequent maintenance, and confusing for many to navigate or personalize, but the overwhelming issue with office PCs are the unrefined softwares a company chooses for its business tasks. What benefit is a Mac if the softwares are ports of the same crappy tools.
 
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dabocx said:
For every person like you that benefits from being free of enterprise IT there are hundreds of people that cause their own issues.

I worked as a system admin at a company that allowed users all admin rights to their machines, the moment we removed that power from end users ticket volume dropped significantly. Certain people can handle that responsibility and do their job better with it, but most just cause their own issues.
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The place you worked, are you talking about Windows machines or Mac?
 
otternonsense said:
That is possibly Cook's greatest achievement: how he turned the iPhone and Mac into a standard (or at least a viable option) in enterprise/professional services environments that wouldn't dare budge from Lenovos and Blackberries.

I would have been much happier if the devices themselves were also up to par. The 2016 MBP redesign has been a total disappointment for pretty much all of my (design/dev) colleagues, with major quality issues, impaired connectivity and workflow setbacks.
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I used to hate Lenovos but honestly, I am thinking of switching my personal MacBook Pro out for one. Specs are good, Windows has way more customization, and Windows 10 is actually very stable in my experience. Except for the forced updates. Those are the worst.
 
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Doomtomb said:
I'm glad to see this report because it solidifies the untapped opinions and choices of smart employees.

People choose Apple for the no nonsense solution to IT infra.
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You should probably take a closer look at the survey and not just the results.
 
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