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From http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009...-chinese-worker-investigated-commits-suicide/

iPhone prototype goes missing; Chinese worker investigated, commits suicide
July 21, 2009 | Eric Eldon

Last Thursday, 25 year-old Sun Danyong committed suicide after a fourth-generation iPhone prototype he was responsible for went missing. It’s a story, from what tech-industry friends in China tell me, of how Apple’s secretive ways send extreme pressure all the way down the company’s international supply chain.

Sun was a recent engineering graduate, and had landed a job handling product communications for electronics manufacturing giant Foxconn in Shenzhen, a leading city in the industry-heavy Guangdong province near Hong Kong.*He was tasked with shipping iPhone prototypes from Foxconn to Apple.*The sequence of events goes as follows, based on news reports currently coming out of China, including a major local paper,*Southern Metropolis Daily.*The news has yet to be reported in the English-language press, at least that I’ve seen, although it’s all over the Chinese-language Twittersphere.

On Thursday, July 9th, Sun got 16 prototype phones from the assembly line at a local Foxconn factory. At some point in the next few days, he discovered that one of the phones was missing. He suspected that it had been left at the factory, but couldn’t find it. On Monday, July 13, he reported the missing phone to his boss. Then, that Wednesday, three Foxconn employees searched his apartment — illegally, according to Chinese law. Accusations are flying that Sun was detained and physically abused during the investigation, although this has not been substantiated (possible evidence: there’s this somewhat garbled and potentially faked instant message exchange from Sun shortly before his death).

What is known: On Thursday — a little after 3 a.m. according to surveillance videos in the apartment building — he jumped out of a window in his apartment building to his death.

As anyone who follow the technology press knows, there are numerous blogs hungry to publish the latest minutiae about any Apple product — the company has many ravenous consumer fans and investors, because let’s face it, the products are great. Beyond the products, though, the company uses the element of surprise to help build up excitement for its flashy product launches, helping to drive sales and its stock price higher. In order to make that happen, Apple exerts immense pressure on its business partners help it maintain secrecy. The missing phone, some sort of new iPhone, has so far been nothing more than*speculation among gadget sites.

Taiwan-based Foxconn makes Apple’s iPhones and iPods, along with numerous other hardware devices for other international technology companies. It faces cutthroat competition from other manufacturers around China and the world. A leak of the next generation of Apple’s crown jewel, the iPhone, could badly hurt Foxconn’s business relationship with Apple. The pressure within Foxconn to maintain Apple’s secrets, then, is not surprising.

The conclusion from the handful of people I’ve spoken with in China about the matter all seems to run along the same lines: People like Sun are pretty helpless when things go wrong in Apple’s supply chain. Here’s how Steven Lin, a Chinese blogger and marketer, put it:

Students [like Sun] have been studying in schools for years, and they have been carefully protected by their parents. They can’t endure such pressure - ‘their house being illegally searched,’ or ‘house arrests’ (if that’s true, according some reports news). Employees at these and other factories sometimes kill themselves simply because of the pressure from their daily jobs — you know what’s going to happen when they face more serious threats. Also, most young*Chinese*guys don’t have friends who are lawyers, so they don’t know how to protect themselves in the legal system. They won’t even look for help from the legal system. They will just endure the pressure, and finally find an extreme way to end all their troubles.​
 
That's an interesting read and now since there is a missing prototype, I'm sure there is going to be much speculation.
I feel bad for the guy.
 
It seems to have been picked up in Russian and other Eastern European language news too but not yet in the West. What a tragedy. I think that a big part of the problem is that, with a relatively (or absolutely) large labor force, China is not that motivated to try to stop these suicides. Lots of them get reported in the news, too -- not just this one from an Apple supplier. It's a terrible shame. Particularly to be losing bright kids who could have had really good futures....
 
So...Apple is to blame for the socio-political realities in China, or the cultural differences that value honor over life? I'm no fanboy, but substitute any cutting-edge company (with a potentially innovative product) for "Apple" and the result would have been the same.
 
Ita always sad news when someone takes their own life, no matter the circumstance. I cant help but feel a though if it werent recovered, he'd be executed anyhow.
 
So...Apple is to blame for the socio-political realities in China, or the cultural differences that value honor over life? I'm no fanboy, but substitute any cutting-edge company (with a potentially innovative product) for "Apple" and the result would have been the same.

Nobody is saying that Apple is to blame. As for the comment "value honor over life" - to put it mildly is grossly insulting and insensitive, as well as down right ignorant.
 
Foxconn Employee Reportedly Commits Suicide Over Lost iPhone Prototype



VentureBeat pieces together reports coming out of China regarding the recent apparent suicide of a Foxconn employee after he lost track of an iPhone prototype in his possession. The suicide of 25 year-old Sun Danyong, who was responsible for shipping prototypes to Apple, reportedly occurred in the wake of a potentially illegal search of the his home and possible physical intimidation against him by members of Foxconn's security department investigating the prototype's disappearance.
On Thursday, July 9th, Sun got 16 prototype phones from the assembly line at a local Foxconn factory. At some point in the next few days, he discovered that one of the phones was missing. He suspected that it had been left at the factory, but couldn't find it. On Monday, July 13, he reported the missing phone to his boss. Then, that Wednesday, three Foxconn employees searched his apartment -- illegally, according to Chinese law. Accusations are flying that Sun was detained and physically abused during the investigation, although this has not been substantiated (possible evidence: there's this somewhat garbled and potentially faked instant message exchange from Sun shortly before his death).

What is known: On Thursday -- a little after 3 a.m. according to surveillance videos in the apartment building -- he jumped out of a window in his apartment building to his death.
In a statement (Google translation), Foxconn management expressed its condolences to the employee's family over the tragic incident and announced that it has placed the security personnel involved in the visit to the employee's residence on unpaid leave pending investigation and is taking steps to offer resources to assist its employees with mental health issues.

The event is casting a fresh light on Apple's secretive nature and the immense pressure felt by its manufacturing partners to maintain that secrecy at all costs in order to preserve their working relationships with Apple.

Article Link: Foxconn Employee Reportedly Commits Suicide Over Lost iPhone Prototype
 
It's my personal opinion that this is more a reflection of the social-economic situation - as well as cultural pressures - in China, than it has to do with Apple. From a corporate accountability perspective, something like this certainly impacts Apple much more from a PR perspective than anything you would gain by playing hardball with your vendor - or its employees.

This was completely driven by Foxxcon and the mentality that a lot of Chinese vendors have.

I worked with the import/export (trader) division for a company for years and see both sides regularly from candidate vendors - blatant violations of social compliance standards, as well as overly punitive attitudes toward the local workforce in order to gain a "competitive advantage." These were the vendors we stayed away from.
 
Very sad. Sorry to hear about it.

Here's a side question, although it could just be a mistake in translation:

Why would there be prototype phones on a factory line on July 9? Wouldn't they be production phones by then? Or is something else coming along soon?
 
Wow. Sometimes I wonder if apples secretetivr nature extends a little too far. Sadly it has cost someones life.

Apple bettter have some response to this

I'm not quite sure what you think the tie to Apple is here besides the fact that it was a lost iPhone prototype, which is the only reason its posted here. Its an unfortunate event for sure, but Foxconn is the one that needs to have a response (and looks to have provided an initial one).
 
It's my personal opinion that this is more a reflection of the social-economic situation - as well as cultural pressures - in China, than it has to do with Apple. It impacts Apple from a PR perspective, but be assured that Apple clearly sees the negative in PR before it sees the positive for punishing a 3rd party vendor employee like that.

This was completely driven by Foxxcon and the mentality that a lot of Chinese vendors have.

Whereas, I am of a mind that Apple's lock-tight secrecy of all its products all the time is the very root of the problem. One man is dead because of what? An iSight camera on the front of a smart phone? :rolleyes:
 
Very sad. Sorry to hear about it.

Here's a side question, although it could just be a mistake in translation:

Why would there be prototype phones on a factory line on July 9? Wouldn't they be production phones by then? Or is something else coming along soon?

I'm surprised that you don't know this by now: Apple ALWAYS has "something else coming along soon."
 
Looks like Apple supports modern day sweatshops. Reminds me of Nike back in the day.
 
It's my personal opinion that this is more a reflection of the social-economic situation - as well as cultural pressures - in China, than it has to do with Apple. From a corporate accountability perspective, something like this certainly impacts Apple much more from a PR perspective than anything you would gain by playing hardball with your vendor - or its employees.

This was completely driven by Foxxcon and the mentality that a lot of Chinese, much less, vendors have.

Not to forget the Apple secrecy paranoia. They certainly are the root cause here. It is funny to read these rumor pages. Not so funny if you are the supplier of these rumors...
 
Apple bettter have some response to this
:rolleyes: They'll do nothing of the sort. Nor should they. Nothing really to do with them. This was an internal matter within Foxconn and their security protocols. Apple's only involvement will only be if they are asked to provide a statement if the family of Foxconn's now-deceased employee pursues a criminal and/or civil legal suit against Foxconn.

Awful thing to happen, but think it says more about the blame culture and cultural differences present (the loss of face/shame that drove Foxconn Security to push this guy over the edge - figuratively not literally - and his own shame at having lost the prototype and potentially his job) than any Machiavellian plot and Apple-sanctioned ninja operatives.

Shame there's no mention of what the prototype featured. Ok ok, just joking.
 
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