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Some exercises / cardio machines / wrist positions cause it to lose contact or something, and then it seems to default to ~70bpm. But, I was just at 130 a second ago!! :rolleyes::D

Yeah, it seems to default around 70bpm. But I'd rather have no value at all instead of a random one.
 
Love hearing these stories. The Apple Watch is really showing its value. I hope the LTE version can be used on MVNOs soon or, even better, with its own number. It's an instant buy for me and my wife.

I don't know man my cheap 25$ Mi Band 2 can do the same thing.
I can set it up for continuous heart rate monitoring and to alert me if my heart rate is elevated.
 
I don't know seeing how many millions of these things Xiaomi sold, out of pure luck one of them probably did helped save a life or prevented a medical event. It's not like it takes more than that.
 
Waiting for news that xiaomi wearable saves a life then.:D
I don't see any reason do do that.
That doesn't changes the fact I've stated: It offers continuous heart rate monitoring(or you can set it a various intervals: 30 sec, 1 min, 2 min, 5 min etc.) and alerts for elevated heart rate.
 
I don't see any reason do do that.
That doesn't changes the fact I've stated: It offers continuous heart rate monitoring(or you can set it a various intervals: 30 sec, 1 min, 2 min, 5 min etc.) and alerts for elevated heart rate.
Not sure where this conversation is now going. When and if it were xiaomi that saved a life, that should be news. But it didn’t and Apple Watch happened to have started a chain of events that lead to this person going to a doctor to find something more serious.
 
This is bizarre. I'm not sure if I were his cardiologists I'd want this advertised. If the case is as it was described - a big IF - it was probably mismanaged. Sounds like he had triple-vessel disease, for which the only proven treatment is bypass surgery, not stenting. And that's especially the case in diabetes, where heart bypass has clear benefits compared to stenting. Maybe there was a reason they couldn't do a bypass, who knows. But the usual management is very different than what was described.

The article also gives the misleading impression that the Apple Watch can diagnose heart disease. It can't. The only thing it can notice is heart rate and perhaps regularity. But, if it points out an unexpected fast rate, and that gets people to see their doctor, that's great.
 
You should move to a decent country where it doesn't cost you an arm and a leg to get potentially life saving medical attention. I'm not sure that it's apples fault that your medical treatment costs so much. Maybe you should talk to your government about being more socially responsible.

Making it so my hospital bill is taken out in my taxes instead of in my insurance doesn't make it any cheaper - it just obscures where my money is going further so then I wouldn't know if the money is going towards my health or towards the highway (or anything else the government is already paying for.)

Certainly healthcare is a mess, and some of the fault can be placed directly with the government, but switching to a single payer system wouldn't necessarily fix the issues (and given how screwed up our government is right now, I'd be quite surprised if it didn't make things worse.)
 
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Well, as much as this is a feel good story, I don't think most hospitals here would even pay attention if someone came up with this to the ER. And there's a good chance they'd be turned away or made to wait long enough for the actual issue to fatal.
 
What study is that?

"On all Apple Watch Series 1 or newer models, users can turn on heart rate notifications when they first open the Heart Rate app, or at any time later:Open the Apple Watch app on a paired iPhone."

Apple is doing a study with Stanford healthcare I think, I signed up for this study. It collects hear rate data & sends it to Stanford health care for a study.
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A drop in the bucket compared to how many lives has been ruined due to smartphone addiction.

I Don't understand, how can lives be ruined by smartphone usage ?
People should be careful with new technology on how they use them, they can use any technology to ruin lives.
It's same as saying "so may people dies in car accidents so cars ruin lives/families".
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You can use the old manual two finger method. I prefer the new automated no-finger method.

checking 2 times a day wouldn't have saved this guy's life, how could a person monitor heart rate when it happens at random, check every few minutes a day ?
I can propose even better solution, eat healthy, exercise to be fit, a person doesn't even have to monitor pulse.
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Apple in 2018 has nothing in common with Apple in 2000. Apple in 2000 expected that your computer was going to last for years and years, with constant support from Apple, and running rock-solid. Apple in 2018 expects that your devices are obsolete in the very same moment you buy them: the user won't be able to stop OS updates (unless applying unofficial hacks like the tvOS profile, hacks that will cease to exist eventually), and this means the device will start crawling like a turtle in a couple of years. So, the problem you have is that you bought a current Apple device with the mindset of a user from the Apple in 2000. That's wrong: Current Apple devices imply current Apple fan mindset: new device every year, while accepting every Apple nagging popup without reading it.

When you follow that way, Apple will start caring about your life.
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You are not thinking with Apple 2018 fan mindset.
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If we had chosen to buy Apple products because of their "cool factor", we'd have already followed that way some years ago, as Apple stopped being cool when they started going the big data business path. But we are here not because of coolness (if we want a cool watch, we do buy a cool watch, not a smartwatch). We are here because we bought Apple products as they were the greatest technology products on Earth, with no other real competitors whose offerings could be compared. Do you think we prefer Linux to MacOS? Not at all, we prefer the real MacOS (OS X) way of doing things. Unfortunately, there's no way for bringing that back to life with the current Apple, so we are kind of trapped in this (sad) moment of times.

Does it work with the 1st series that they still currently sell? I still have mine and I can't find any settings for adjust it.
You are not thinking with Apple 2018 fan mindset.

Yep, I don't understand why I can't use Face ID on my iPhone 7 to unlock the phone, I mean there is Front Camera on iPhone 7 why can't they use the same camera ?
planned obsolesce by Apple ?
Sarcasm.
 
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Does it work with the 1st series that they still currently sell? I still have mine and I can't find any settings for adjust it.
You are not thinking with Apple 2018 fan mindset.

I don't know what the Apple 2018 fan mindset is, but yes, it does work with the Series 1. (It does not, however, work with the original Watch. They don't sell that any more, and haven't for years.)

Yep, I don't understand why I can't use Face ID on my iPhone 7 to unlock the phone, I mean there is Front Camera on iPhone 7 why can't they use the same camera ?
planned obsolesce by Apple ?
Sarcasm.

Face ID uses infrared. It's a 3D model, not a 2D picture from the camera.
 
checking 2 times a day wouldn't have saved this guy's life, how could a person monitor heart rate when it happens at random, check every few minutes a day ?
I can propose even better solution, eat healthy, exercise to be fit, a person doesn't even have to monitor pulse.
The Apple Watch is a better two finger method. And far more elegant.

I agree with your second paragraph but some peoples risk factors are independent of a healthy lifestyle.
 
Well, as much as this is a feel good story, I don't think most hospitals here would even pay attention if someone came up with this to the ER. And there's a good chance they'd be turned away or made to wait long enough for the actual issue to fatal.
What? This is not even the best example of an Apple Watch saving a life. That would be the story told on this podcast episode: https://www.macintosh.fm/episodes/16
 
Making it so my hospital bill is taken out in my taxes instead of in my insurance doesn't make it any cheaper - it just obscures where my money is going further so then I wouldn't know if the money is going towards my health or towards the highway (or anything else the government is already paying for.)

Certainly healthcare is a mess, and some of the fault can be placed directly with the government, but switching to a single payer system wouldn't necessarily fix the issues (and given how screwed up our government is right now, I'd be quite surprised if it didn't make things worse.)

Our health care system (Australia) whilst not perfect does ensure that people who need care, actually get it. Point in case, my wife, recently suffering severe respiratory infection was referred to hospital by her GP. On attending the public hospital she was immediately assessed and placed on a monitor in a bed in emergency. Immediate Xray and subsequent CT scans revealed minor pneumonia which resulted in IV antibiotic treatment. After ensuring that she had people to care for her at home she was released from hospital with instructions to attend her GP in 5 days for follow up. Total cost, noting. Total time about 6 hours. This level of treatment is available to any Australian citizen or resident regardless of income or employment status, no questions asked.

Is it perfect? Of course not. We have waiting lists for non life threatening conditionings and sometimes people do die whilst waiting for things such as hip and knee replacements. We do have the option of private health care for those who care to take it up, and many do hold private health insurance for this reason. But if you have a life threatening condition, you will be taken to a public ED and you will get the best treatment available as the staff do their best at getting you healthy again.

It's expensive, but as a society we have decided that providing health care for everybody is something we must do. And we all share the cost of subsidising the care for everybody. We don't believe that it is acceptable for people to be left to die when care is available, just because they may not be able to afford it.
 
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It's expensive, but as a society we have decided that providing health care for everybody is something we must do. And we all share the cost of subsidising the care for everybody. We don't believe that it is acceptable for people to be left to die when care is available, just because they may not be able to afford it.

I think people tend to not understand what happens when you can't pay your medical bills in the US. You're going to receive your treatment. Then you'll get a bill. When you don't pay it, it'll go to collections. Your credit score will tank. A lot of stuff in life will get hard without a decent credit score (IE, landlords won't be happy when they consider having you as a tenant, getting a mortgage or auto loan will be hard, credit cards and other loans will be hard to get, etc.) But life saving medicine will always be available if you call an ambulance or otherwise find a way into an emergency room. Nobody will check your ability to pay before they treat you.

I suppose the maintenance instead of emergency treatment may be difficult to come by, but I would't say you're "left to die".
 
So in reality, you live, but get to mortgage the rest of your life for that treatment? I'm still like the way we do it when society sees it as a benefit for you to be healthy and also be able to get on with the rest of your life without an unaffordable debt hanging over your head with the constant threat of debt collectors taking all you have. Not an example of a caring society.
 
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I feel that I have repeated this 1000 times on this thread. When I travel or hike, I can't charge it for more than 3 days.
And no, I'm not going to carry power banks as a traveler, and even less as a hiker. Whining? People nowadays can be just rude and aggressive because they are online. This is just absurd.

Repeat it a million more times; I won't search for your other posts. :p

I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just telling you that this battery non-issue isn't Apple's problem. It's yours.

You can make room for a power bank. There exists solutions to your problem.
 
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If your waiting for glucose monitoring this information wont make you pull the trigger yet, but just for your knowledge.

I get a biannual stress echo done, with an EKG done in the off-years. I'm good.
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As a cardiologist, are you saying Haskell & Fox have devised the most reliable formula?

IIRC, their formula was completely ex recto. It's certainly nowhere near accurate for me. Near the end of my fifth decade, my Max HR is 201.

Re glucose monitoring:
I don't see that happening for years.

I have a loved one who has severe non-diabetic hypoglycemia. I don't want to spring for a watch now and then end up replacing it not too far into the future.

Glad homeboy is still alive, but I can’t help staggering at:

“...two out of his three main coronary arteries were completely blocked...”

D’Aquino: “I feel fine...”

Such conditions come on gradually, over a period of decades. Like the proverbial frog that gets boiled when you slowly turn up the heat, it's a change that is so gradual that one does not notice.

It's not good. Depending on your fitness level, you should not exceed between 60 and 90% of your maximal heart rate. You are exceeding it by a large amount. Either you are pushing yourself WAY too hard or there's an underlying issue that hasn't been diagnosed. I'm no doctor, just a "health nut", but I would definitely talk to your doctor about it and make sure you stay under that 90% number. My max heart rate is 175. I try not to exceed 155 when exercising. If I get higher than that, I slow down.

It depends upon the goals for the workout. If you want to improve Max VO2, you have to put yourself in the hurt locker.

Cf., Iziro Tabata. His protocol works.

High carb plant based diet, problem fixed. Instead, now we have just another carnist walking.

Problem exacerbated, actually. A high-carb diet is the enemy.
 
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I have a loved one who has severe non-diabetic hypoglycemia. I don't want to spring for a watch now and then end up replacing it not too far into the future.

I suppose it's possible for non-invasive monitoring to become accurate enough for non-diabetic cases a few years from now, yeah.

But for diabetics, offerings so far are snakeoil or vaporware. About as close as it gets is the FreeStyle Libre, and that's quite invasive.
 
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