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Yup. Also the 7300. Pretty much everything that used that case has some overlap I think. Not the 7200, and maybe not the G3 -- I'm not sure if that one was built like the tower or was a daughtercard G3 upgrade of existing stock. Have to check the manual.

But you've got it exactly right - this is a parts box now that'll either expand or fix a future mac-of-opportunity.
 
Yup. Also the 7300. Pretty much everything that used that case has some overlap I think. Not the 7200, and maybe not the G3 -- I'm not sure if that one was built like the tower or was a daughtercard G3 upgrade of existing stock. Have to check the manual.

But you've got it exactly right - this is a parts box now that'll either expand or fix a future mac-of-opportunity.

Its always a shame when that happens. I love my 7500 (In fact its sat behind me right now chugging along serving as an update repository while I upgrade a couple of PowerBook 1400s to Mac OS 8). Im pretty sure the G3 couldn't take the 601 card from a 7500 (Again this is all from memory, but I dont think it worked), but I have no idea about the 604 and cant find my copies of the relevant manuals (in typical fashion).
 
Checked - outrigger G3 isn't close family like the 7300-7600.

Couldn't find the outrigger manual at Apple, but the minitower manual showed outrigger-type construction propped upright. Then found these Flickr shots. That's the same board as the minitower.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/17377424@N00/with/1963056/

Just typical. We really need to get MR or somewhere to get permission from Apple to collect and host all the manuals for elderly Macs, including scanned ones if necessary (As someone somewhere must have a copy of each and every manual - and having the whole lot in 1 place would make fixing these old beasts so much less of a pain).
 
Er... that's the only time I haven't found a manual at Apple. All the beige era monitors and boxes and bits that have gone through here, have had one or more manuals found there. I've got to give them five stars compared to other companies, and I'm usually pretty grumpy about Apple.

In this case, yeah we're missing the 'G3 Desktop' tech specs and user guide at least, but they did have the one about its optional A/V card. And for actual repair, I'd expect the minitower manuals would apply.

I wonder if you even need permission to host manuals that are freely downloadable?

I guess you would. The nature of copyright would include Apple's right to stop distributing. But meanwhile if you're concerned, what you can do is just download & sort everything you can get now. If Apple ever does pull the stuff offline, then all or part of that archive can be quietly distributed among the faithful on request.

As far as an official mirror goes, probably Apple would be leery of that. Corporations by nature like control, so their quick answer would be 'No'. But if they were approached correctly by a registered non-profit they could be fine with it. Like DigiBarn for example, if DB ever gets around to becoming a non-profit.

You might look around. For both a suitable organization, and just to check if some outfit has already made a mirror.

Like this.
http://www.virtualapple.org/manuals/

If nothing else you'll probably turn up a whack of good info and links that would make a nice sticky here.
 
If nothing else you'll probably turn up a whack of good info and links that would make a nice sticky here.

Why don't we just create a Sticky of all the manuals for every elderly Mac as a stack of links - then we could just have that as a Sticky in here and update it as and when we find something else, or as an when a copy goes down to find a replacement link.
 
Checked - outrigger G3 isn't close family like the 7300-7600.

Couldn't find the outrigger manual at Apple, but the minitower manual showed outrigger-type construction propped upright. Then found these Flickr shots. That's the same board as the minitower.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/17377424@N00/with/1963056/

Seems Apple hasn't quite added all the manuals to the new support site.

The G3 Desktop Setup Guide can be found here:

http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Manuals/desktops/0340221APMG3DTSETUP.PDF

link found here:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=50122

And I agree that Apple does a better job than most companies of making specs & user manuals available for older products (with some omissions).

But, service manuals are a different thing. If you can "drive" google, you can find them, and build your own library. A few years ago there was a site that hosted them, but they received a "C.A.D" letter from Apple.

If you're looking for a group of listed URLs for original user manuals, I just found this:

http://www.everymac.com/mac-manuals/index-mac-manuals.html

:)
 
Why don't we just create a Sticky of all the manuals for every elderly Mac as a stack of links - then we could just have that as a Sticky in here and update it as and when we find something else, or as an when a copy goes down to find a replacement link.

Well, fill your boots. In my experience, collections like that are tedious to make, quickly die of link-rot, and seldom serve people as well as hitting a search engine directly.

I was just thinking that if you dig into seeing what already exists as independent manual collections, you'll likely turn up some interesting things that won't be search-engine-obvious.

But whatever turns your crank. Good luck with whatever you do or don't choose to do.

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Nice links, MacTech68. And yeah, I did wonder why I wasn't seeing service manuals results at Apple this time round. I had expected those from previous experience.
 
Well, fill your boots. In my experience, collections like that are tedious to make, quickly die of link-rot, and seldom serve people as well as hitting a search engine directly.

I was just thinking that if you dig into seeing what already exists as independent manual collections, you'll likely turn up some interesting things that won't be search-engine-obvious.

But whatever turns your crank. Good luck with whatever you do or don't choose to do.

I'll probably just throw it together as I trawl to get all the PDFs I can for my personal collection this summer, since Im visiting the sites anyway, and just export my history and write a script to throw it all into a page/sticky.
 
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