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Are that many kids parents actually buying them new phones? I get handing your old iPhone down, but I have a hard time imagining that that many parents are willing to spend $1000 on a phone for their kid to check Facebook.
I can't speak for many of my peers but I got my first iPhone in 2010. I paid half the internet every month and sold my Nintendo so I could have one. I have bought every iPhone on my own since then. It was a lot easier with subsidized pricing, but now I just keep my phones pristine and sell for top dollar on craigslist and am only out the subsidy again. My iPhone SE decided to get yellow screen burn in, so this is now my long term phone.

I've also grown a lot since my 3GS. Back then phones were a luxury and a toy. Now I don't really have time and a phone is a utility - a way to keep up with people as friends have gone off to college, and a way to connect with clients and manage my calendar and go through emails. That being said, I'm probably going to keep my SE until it becomes a useless rock. As long as it can do those things, I don't really want to replace it.
 
Are that many kids parents actually buying them new phones? I get handing your old iPhone down, but I have a hard time imagining that that many parents are willing to spend $1000 on a phone for their kid to check Facebook.

Most parents these days that need to get phones for their kids will use an installment plan anyway, so most of the time they're not paying $1000 up front anyway.

My 11 year old cousin has an iPhone for example.
 
Are that many kids parents actually buying them new phones? I get handing your old iPhone down, but I have a hard time imagining that that many parents are willing to spend $1000 on a phone for their kid to check Facebook.

You do realize Apple sells NEW iPhones for as little as $350. It amazes me that people assume that all iPhones are $1000.
 
And thousands of teens will be disapointed come Christmas season and I will be thoroughly entertained by the the thousands of tweets from teens bitching and complaining that they didn't get the iPhone as a gift
 
My nephew saved up all year and bought a used one on eBay. I assume most are hand me downs or used. Still shows that the iPhone is regarded as popular.
 
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It's hard to believe these surveys that tell us X% of the population is switching to iPhone. If that were true, why does Android continue to take the biggest share of the mobile market?

Survey is to U.S. Teens only. There's an awful lot of NON U.S. Teens in the world, and an awful lot of people in the world living OUTSIDE the U.S.

Stats like "own an iPhone" is likely counting plenty of old, ancient, hand-me-down iPhones (as many posts in this thread support too). Owning an iPhone 4, 5, 6, 7 doesn't show up as new sales in market share measurements in the present. In other words, the market share reports are generally measuring & comparing present sales (over the last quarter or maybe over the last year), not counting old unit sales too (even those in use). I bet if they asked the same group of teens if they own an iPod, the percentage that own one would also be very large... and Apple quit selling them how long ago?

Not long ago, Apple themselves announced that they had sold their 1 billionth iPhone. Does that mean that 1 billion people in the world own an iPhone? No. How many iPhones have you owned? Each of those count. How many people around here have bought an iPhone every other year in the last 10? Every year? How many old iPhones in that tally are retired to a drawer? Or dumped into a landfill? Or long-since recycled? Spin can sound good. Dig deeper.

This survey is conducted by a firm that is a consistent Apple Fan. Can we really trust that it is an unbiased & objective survey? Survey- say- only Republicans about what they think of the Democratic platform and the numbers being against will be dramatic. Extrapolate that out to be able to imply that almost all Americans are against Democratic party ideals. Do the same with passionate Democrats and see the opposite outcome. Extrapolate that out to almost all Americans and apparently all Americans are against Republican ideals. Survey Pepsi people about Coke. Or Coke people about Pepsi. Survey Apple People about Windows and then Windows people about Apple. Magically, targeted (biased) surveys can yield impressive results to support a desired outcome or message. Note: I'm no insider at Piper, so this could be a completely unbiased survey, but Piper really pushes Apple (AAPL)- when have you ever seen a bearish call on AAPL by Piper? Can they do a survey that is unbiased when they are such fans (and consistency pushing the stock)?

This survey asked kids averaging 16 years old what do they have and what do they want. Odds are high that if any of them are getting new iPhones, it's parents buying them for them. When one is not actually having to earn the money to buy that something they say they want, it's pretty easy to wish for all kinds of stuff that you may never actually buy. For example, survey a bunch of young guys about what car they want and some will probably want a Lambo. Extrapolate that out and you can report that some surprisingly high percentage of all American young men want a Lambo. Then check back in 5 or 10 years later with them and see how many actually bought one.

Price can override wishing & hoping (with no money). If the 'rents give Junior/Juniette an Android instead, does the kid reject a new cell phone or maybe whine a little and then roll with it? Think back to when you were 16 and asked your parents for bigger (cost) things- maybe new car. Did they buy you the car you wanted? Latest & greatest new? Or did you maybe get some other, lessor & used car? Did you reject a car because you only wanted the specific one you coveted? Or did you take the one they purchased for you (because you probably were not out making the money to buy the one you longed for).

Lastly, Android is the OS driving all kinds of phones. iOS is exclusive to just a few models. That market share "war"(?) is long since lost, just as the computing OS share was dramatically lost when Microsoft licensed Windows to everyone while Apple opted to keep it's OS exclusively to it's own computer line. There's tons of phones (and computers) priced far below Apple products running Android (and Windows). Price rules for many, many consumers, here in the U.S. and with the approx. >95% of the people NOT living in the U.S. (and thus not counted in this survey).
 
It's hard to believe these surveys that tell us X% of the population is switching to iPhone.
it's a U.S based survey.. it's not considering the population in entirety.

If that were true, why does Android continue to take the biggest share of the mobile market?
Apple is one company.
Android, at least the way you seem to be using it, is a whole bunch of companies..

or, are you talking about iOS usage compared to Android usage?
or more like Apple's phone compared to Google&Samsung&LG&Huawei&HTC ..etc?

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[edit] well, what i've just said has basically been covered by what HSD said right above me :)
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Piper Jaffray is totally credible and has reliable data. Only time they weren't reliable and a complete joke was when they reported negative data a few years back regarding the iPhone.
 
but I have a hard time imagining that that many parents are willing to spend $1000 on a phone for their kid

I'm not sure why people keep pointing to the $1k price tag. Almost no one sees that price. What they will see is $200-$300 up front and then $40-$50/month. They are probably already paying ~$40/month so the end result is very little change.
 
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When I was a teenager I remember saying that my next car would be a Lotus Carlton. 2 decades later, I'm still waiting.

Haha, that came to mind as well.

Questioning teenagers about their future plans is pretty pointless for multiple reasons:
- they don't know what they want
- they change what they want every other week
- they mistake things they want to do for things they are going to do
 
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Haha, that came to mind as well.

Questioning teenagers about their future plans is pretty pointless for multiple reasons:
- they don't know what they want
- they change what they want every other week
- they mistake things they want to do for things they are going to do
i hope one of mine changes what she wants today in a much sooner fashion than 2 weeks..
here's a text i got on my way home from the shop.
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This is why Apple is heading to a Trillion dollar market cap. The kids today are of course the adults of tomorrow and a lot of them will stay loyal to the brand they know and use.
 
Are that many kids parents actually buying them new phones? I get handing your old iPhone down, but I have a hard time imagining that that many parents are willing to spend $1000 on a phone for their kid to check Facebook.
Well most kids these days update their myspace page so your kinda inaccurate there.
 
I started buying my own stuff at 14, I made $3/week, plus $10 any time I took care of the lawn. At 16 as of last week, I now have a Macbook Pro, iPad Pro 12.9, iPhone 6s Plus, Apple Watch S1, and Airpods. All of this stuff is essential to my schoolwork, and I'm not planning on switching to Windows/Android any time soon. I see many of my classmates getting new phones from their parents, and they break them and don't even care because they will get a new one without an issue. If I break something, I fix it myself, or replace it if necessary. It is increasingly rare to see an Android on campus, although they still exist.
 
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In the US only very few people pay for phones upfront. It is usually buried in their monthly cellular bills. So you are less likely to get sticker shock if you are paying $25/month.

Guess Tim was right... its a total steal at $25/month for 40 months
 
Nobody wants to be green in a blue group chat....

There are better devices out there IMO (Note 8, Pixel 2) but alas, the iMessage social pressure wins.

Well teenagers tend to like a lot of things that are impractical, however, in the case of the iPhone, it actually is. Better is a subjective term highlighted mostly by screen specs more than anything else. (This is coming from a Pixel user mind you).

Younger users also enjoy things like AirDrop, Live Photos (yes Android has similar now), iOS versions of apps, 3D Touch, shared photo galleries, find my friends, and the insane selection of cases and other accessories out there for these phones.

This works well for me as a photographer that does Senior pictures, and youth sports. I can quickly share photos directly to customers for them to use on Social media, and have families that subscribe to such services. Now I just wished Apple bundled in unlimited iCloud photos in a similar way Google does for us Pixel owners ;) .
 
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