"7s" over the "8"

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by joeblow7777, Jun 25, 2017.

  1. joeblow7777 macrumors 603

    Sep 7, 2010
    I'm just curious, what hypothetical factors would make you choose the "iPhone 7s" (expected to look like the 7, with updated internals) over the "iPhone 8" (expected to be a near bezel-less redesign, for a higher price).

    Lower price? The "8" having TouchID on the back? A return of the headphone jack on the 7s? Unavailability of the "8" in September? Lack of a preferred colour option?

    Why might you personally choose the less hyped model?
  2. KeanosMagicHat macrumors 65816


    May 18, 2012
    I would never choose the 7S over the 8 unless it were down to financial constraints.
  3. bufffilm Suspended


    May 3, 2011
    It's going to be interesting to see how Apple will spin the 7s/+ this year.

    What features will prove attractive enough to make people buy this phone?

    For me, the only feature I'm waiting for is OLED. And that's only going to be on the redesign. So no, there is nothing else they can add to it to convince me to buy.

    My next phone will be OLED or bust.
  4. michael9891 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 26, 2016
    Nothing. I use my phone often enough, so I want the best iPhone out available. Can't see it being that much more expensive than the 256gb 7+ anyway.

    If there's anything on the 8 I'm not too keen on, I'm sure it won't take much time to get used to it (like a possible fingerprint scanner on the back). Headphone jack will never come back and I'd never buy a phone I'd be less happy with because the one I want is out of stock.
  5. Sneakz macrumors 65816


    Jul 17, 2008
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    Well, the 7S+ sounds like it'll end up having a bigger functional area of the display as opposed to the 8. Some plus owners like myself wont want to move to a smaller phone, with a smaller portrait keyboard etc.
  6. Jimmy James, Jun 25, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2017

    Jimmy James macrumors 68040

    Jimmy James

    Oct 26, 2008
    I agree. It's already about perfect. I don't even need oled.
  7. chilman macrumors regular


    Jan 2, 2011
    From reading the leaks that are from some good sources online. The 8 is the one to go. It will cost more but you will be using and showing the best and latest model. The 7S would be almost sure to hv the same design as the 7 and if you are aiming for oled and no bezel screen, the 8 is the choice.
  8. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

    T'hain Esh Kelch

    Aug 5, 2001
    1. Price.
    2. TouchID on the back.
    3. A delicious design on the 8, instead of a 3 year old one on the 7s.
    4. Yuuuge bezels.
  9. Givmeabrek macrumors 68040


    Apr 20, 2009
    Gotta have the 8. :)
    Don't even know what it is but I want it bad!!
  10. dallas112678 macrumors 6502a

    Feb 17, 2008
    For me it might be as simple as ergonomics, it might be a real pain to hold the 8 comfortably without covering the display, specifically in "landscape" mode. Maybe it's just me, but when I'm playing a game or something in landscape mode, my thumbs always rest on the home button and earphones, which gives me a good/comfortable grasp on the device without covering the screen. If the screen was the entire device, I'd have to "pull back" my thumb to be inline with the rest of my fingers along the edge of the device which is not comfortable and is actually very annoying. I could also have my thumbs float over the screen the entire time but that is awkward, and will obviously block your view from parts of the screen.

    Maybe I'm the only one, but I think having a phone with no place to comfortably grab it will be more annoying than a phone that's slightly bigger but at least has some place to get a good/comfortable grasp on the phone. I really wish they would go edge to edge on the sides, while keeping (but shrinking) the bezels where the home button and ear piece is similarly to the s8.
  11. joeblow7777 thread starter macrumors 603

    Sep 7, 2010
    Just to be clear, I understand that the "8" is the model that probably everyone here will go for, but I'm asking if there's any possible hypothetical reason, or combination of reasons, why you would go with the "7s" instead. The fact that the "8" will likely have a smaller usable screen than the "7s+" might also be a factor for some. Those used to a larger usable display may not want to go back to something smaller, even if it is in a much more portable form.

    For me, the price of the "8" would have to be outrageous for that alone to be a deal breaker! I'm prepared for up to about $1000 USD (which will probably be $1400 here in Canada) for a 128 GB model. When you factor in tax (15% in my province) and $160 for Apple Care, I'm basically prepared to shell out up to $1800 for this phone! If it ends up being more than that, I still wouldn't say it's a hard "no" but I would give serious thought to a lower cost option. I also wouldn't be thrilled by TouchID on the back. And if (I know it won't happen, but if) the 7s had a headphone jack... all of those factors combined could actually draw me away from the "8", but no single one would be an automatic deal breaker on its own.
  12. Jimmy James macrumors 68040

    Jimmy James

    Oct 26, 2008
    The touch buttons on my Samsung tablet make it difficult to hold in landscape without accidental presses. I imagine the lack of bezel will create the same problem with the screen. I wonder what Apple might do to mitigate the problem. Perhaps make the sides non responsive while playing video. That would help.
  13. Debel macrumors regular


    Jan 2, 2017
    The 7 plus is probably the most perfect phone out. And it still kills me. I was with android from the G1 to the v20
  14. chilman macrumors regular


    Jan 2, 2011
    I agree what you said, i never thought of this before. But unlike samsung/androids. Apple has no return button on the bottom of the screen, still a good point
  15. Wowereit macrumors 6502a

    Feb 1, 2016
    If the 7s is just a spec-bump, upgrading from a 6s or 7 would be pointless.

    So if there is no iPhone 8 / Edition or it has some huge drawbacks, I am going to skip 2017.
  16. Loge macrumors 68030


    Jun 24, 2004
    I wouldn't want to go back to a "smaller" screen (once you account for the rumoured function area); but if the 7 is holding up well, I wouldn't necessarily upgrade to an S.
  17. Pakaku macrumors 68000


    Aug 29, 2009
    I'm only interested in whichever generation updates the SE. I want a phone that's small enough to stick in the smaller pocket of my jeans. Also having a headphone jack is just natural for me.
  18. geta macrumors 6502a

    May 18, 2010
    The Moon
    If i was in the market for new phone, i would get the 7s (or SE2.. :D) over the all new n' shiny iPhoneX. Call me crazy, but im not willing to pay the extra premium price just so i can be on a public beta user group for new tech.
  19. nostresshere macrumors 68030

    Dec 30, 2010
    Show me some pictures and a full list of specs so I can decide.
  20. Jimmy James macrumors 68040

    Jimmy James

    Oct 26, 2008
    We finally seem to be at the point where you can get a phone one or two generations old and the performance is, at the very least, perfectly acceptable. I primarily upgraded in the past for speed improvements. That's less of an issue now. For those who don't chase looks or features it's a great time to get a deal on last years model.

    I'm a bit concerned that the larger capacity 6s was only offered this year in order to offset the complaints about the removal of the headphone jack. I'm wondering if the 7 will only be offered in smaller capacities next year.
  21. Dave245 macrumors 603


    Sep 15, 2013
    I won't get the 7s i plan on getting the 8 since it will be having OLED, redesign, wireless charging glass front and back. Obviously this is all down to the rumours but i don't mind paying the rumoured £1000 for a device that has those features and i think Apple will keep the 7s with the current screen technology maybe update the internals a little and give it a couple of new features, however the 8 will be the one to get if your willing to spend the money.
  22. drewyboy, Jun 27, 2017
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2017

    drewyboy macrumors 65816

    Jan 27, 2005
    More than likely my wife and I will get the 7s. Why? Price. When you compare base models and the projected base cost of the 8 at 1k, 7s to 8 base is ~50% increase and 7s+ to 8 base is about a 30% increase.

    So for me, I could get 3 7s' and still have cash left over compared to buying two 8's. I don't know about most of you but I don't have $700 just lying around with nothing to do but be spent on consumer electronics.

    Edit: Fashion is lowest on my list of priorities. I don't care about a new design, I don't care about being slim, I don't care about glass, I don't care about "wireless" charging, and I don't care about having a touch id integrated into the screen. What I do care about is camera, and I know I'm wishing here, but I hope 7s gets a dual lens.

    Edit2: This is why I'll be honestly considering a Pixel 2. Yeah I like iOS, but all the apps I use are cross platform so I'm not a hostage. But if T-Mobile offers a sweet trade in for our 5s' for new iPhones, that will probably get me to pull to the trigger.
  23. Dave245 macrumors 603


    Sep 15, 2013
    This makes perfect sense if you can't afford the 8, it probably wont appeal to everyone anyway which is why Apple is planning on announcing the 7s and 7s Plus alongside the 8. Personally if I didn't have the money I wouldn't buy one, I don't get into debt for anything.
  24. drewyboy macrumors 65816

    Jan 27, 2005
    It's not so much I don't have the money, it's just that it's not a high financial priority. Having a family of six and starting a business takes precedent. To us, a smartphone is a phone + camera. We don't have a lot of the demands that many here seem to have, or at least say they have. And I completely agree about the debt aspect, I buy my iPhones outright
  25. Dave245 macrumors 603


    Sep 15, 2013
    I totally respect that! The only reason I can do so is because I'm not married and I have a job that enables me to do so. In the grand scheme of things I don't think a new iPhone is more important than a family lol.

    I'm looking forward to seeing where Apple take the iPhone 8 tho, I think AR will have something to do with it.

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