seems to me that more and more of apple's hardware (MBP, The Ocho, iMac, MB) are getting these random releases on some mid-week day and the "events" (MWSF, WWDC, "press event) are all about software/iPodsomethingorother.
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8-Core Mac Pros have arrived.
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Nope, it's the QX6800 if I'm reading The Inquirer right, and it runs at the same 1066 FSB as the current quad cores. NDA lifts on the QX6800 Monday according to them.
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38710
50W TDP CLovertown and the already have laptops with LGA775. Yeah, that's right.
I'd like a chip check too.Since Intel lists the fastest quad Xeon as the X5355 at 2.66 GHz, it looks pretty obvious that Apple is overclocking the 2.66 chips.
Intel has a utility to compare the actual clock speed to the rated speed (Windows or bootable) http://support.intel.com/support/processors/tools/frequencyid/ - so soon we'll know if Intel produced a special bin for Apple, or if the Cupertino boys and girls have been "mod'ing"
http://www.intel.com/support/processors/tools/frequencyid/sb/cs-007627.htm
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2.93 GHz Kentsfield, what's so secret about that?
They dropped a while back my friend... a long time ago. They just left the new up there.
Wait wait. They did drop. The 20" is now $599
I don't see why all the dual woodcrests couldn't have become single clovertowns. I seem to remember that working out cheaper according to the prices we saw back in november, and multi-cores work better than multi-processors (correct me if i'm wrong here). Apple must've realised they couldn't justify the price hike for the same chip, only overclocked.
NAB better have something more to offer than FCS2...
NAB better have something more to offer than FCS2...
I think that we will see Intel announce the X5365 in a couple of weeks at the Intel developer conference in Beijing.
I doubt that Apple will adjust prices on the current machine. That's usually not their style unless they are trying to clear out the inventory (like the cinema displays). We may see cheaper prices on the next redesign of the Mac Pro. By then we should have the newer chipset, and maybe even Penryn (if Apple waits till the end of the year).
People complain about cost....but do you remember how it was in the early to mid 90's? With top-end Mac models costing anywhere from $6,000 to $9,800? These are bargain compared to how it was back then.
But the octo is still out of my price range right now.
But the octo is still out of my price range right now.
Nope ...
QX6800 is not a Xeon series processor and also can't be used in 2P configurations.
QX6800 is not a Xeon series processor and also can't be used in 2P configurations.
1 quad core doesn't perform as well as two dual cores. Also Apple don't seem to like messing with their product lines until it's time for major updates.
Not a replacement
As people have mentioned, it is a bit unexpected (at least by some) that this is simply a BTO option that does not affect the 4-core configs, including their price. Multimedia and others that were telling people they were "foolish" or "stupid" to be buying a Mac Pro any time in the last few months because they were about to be updated to 8 cores were incorrect...I doubt that very many people who were trying to decide whether to drop $2500-$3000 on a 4-core are now going to cough up $4000-$4500 just because four additional cores are available. Since they did not replace but rather augment the 4-core line for a hefty premium, those that waited who didn't want to spend any (or much) more will now have missed out on time with their Mac Pros.
As people have mentioned, it is a bit unexpected (at least by some) that this is simply a BTO option that does not affect the 4-core configs, including their price. Multimedia and others that were telling people they were "foolish" or "stupid" to be buying a Mac Pro any time in the last few months because they were about to be updated to 8 cores were incorrect...I doubt that very many people who were trying to decide whether to drop $2500-$3000 on a 4-core are now going to cough up $4000-$4500 just because four additional cores are available. Since they did not replace but rather augment the 4-core line for a hefty premium, those that waited who didn't want to spend any (or much) more will now have missed out on time with their Mac Pros.
Wow, who on earth even needs 8 cores? The only time I've ever used dual core was when I was running a huge matlab algorithm and surfing the internet.
And the cinema displays are still wayyy over priced.
Dell sells 20inch for 399, 24 for 749
Apple's 20 inch if 699! 23 is over a thousand dollars.
Talk about price gauging. And you get less customizations from Apple. Cinema Display FTL, if they want to be competitive, add more functions to it and price is MUCH less.
And the cinema displays are still wayyy over priced.
Dell sells 20inch for 399, 24 for 749
Apple's 20 inch if 699! 23 is over a thousand dollars.
Talk about price gauging. And you get less customizations from Apple. Cinema Display FTL, if they want to be competitive, add more functions to it and price is MUCH less.
Would have to agree. But then again after surfing Apple's page I don't think they are too excited by this upgrade at all. They just dropped a new Intel Chipset into the box and called it an upgrade. Intel made the chip so it could do that anyway. There is no real breakthrough going on here.
But I do remember when they announced all of the speed increases of the PowerPC line about two years ago. They made that a big announcment at MacWorld. Made Steve is getting tired of putting on a big show for a new processor inside the same box.
I agree with you only because they did this with the last PowerPC G5s. I have the Dual 2GHz single chip and it runs just as fast as the original with 2 chips, but it is A WHOLE LOT QUIETER... could you hear me? A lot quieter by leaps and bounds. The only time the fans rev up and the processer makes that funny noise is when I am using that resource hog Aperture or FCP. Other than that it stays quiet. It also lowered the price on the low end.
I don't know if the MacPros make that much noise but they could have cut the price a hair or made the machine run a little smoother if they put a single quad core chip inside. It did for my G5.
That's partially true. But what Dell did was de-value their product to the point where if your laptop dies you run to Staples and just buy a new one. And guess what, it's not a Dell. Hey it's under a $1000, we can replace it with anything.
However, companies like Apple and even HP (with their printers) have manage to maintain both brand loyalty through superior products and longer product life cycles. If Apple upgraded the Mac Pro every-time Intel came out with a new chip, people would be just buying the EOL systems, which a few months ago were the top of the line machines, at a discounted price. Which would eventually hurt Apple's bottom line.
I know this is a very simplified explanation, but I think it makes sense.
Yes, XServe should have been updated long time back with the 2.0 and 2.33 quad processor options.