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It sounds pretty much confirmed by now that 3D Touch will be gone in this next gen iPhone, which I’m not happy about. So unless something else really blows me away about that phone, I don’t feel justified moving over to it.

Coming from an 8+, is the xs max still a decent option that will be good for a couple years? I know the cameras on it are better, speakers are better, bigger screen etc. But for the most part, are the major kinks worked out? Is the intel model still a big issue after all the updates?

My contracts up fairly soon here and I would like to enjoy 3D Touch a bit longer, it’s especially useful for me in games like pubg
 
It sounds pretty much confirmed by now that 3D Touch will be gone in this next gen iPhone, which I’m not happy about. So unless something else really blows me away about that phone, I don’t feel justified moving over to it.

Coming from an 8+, is the xs max still a decent option that will be good for a couple years? I know the cameras on it are better, speakers are better, bigger screen etc. But for the most part, are the major kinks worked out? Is the intel model still a big issue after all the updates?

My contracts up fairly soon here and I would like to enjoy 3D Touch a bit longer, it’s especially useful for me in games like pubg
The part about the modem is clearly a YMMV situation. Everyone will have their anecdotal stories. My anecdotal story is that I don’t have any issues and get good reception in the places I go.
 
The part about the modem is clearly a YMMV situation. Everyone will have their anecdotal stories. My anecdotal story is that I don’t have any issues and get good reception in the places I go.

True that, in my experience the Xs max is definitely not as good as my 8 plus used to be.
 
I went from a 7 plus to a max then back to a 7 plus main reason being I’m old and like a home buttonl lol but secondly I found the signal strength on the max weaker than the 7 even kept both phones out of there cases to test them maybe I had a faulty max but I’ve sold it now and I believe the new owner is happy with it...
 
Loving my XS Max, the signal strength is not as strong as my Huawei P30 Pro, but is more comparable to my Mate 20 Pro, both XS Max and Mate 20 Pro are better than my old Galaxy Note8 and are similar to a relatives iPhone X.

Overall I have not really had issues, I live in a valley, our house has dead spots, but the XS Max has held up far better than what I thought it would considering what I had read around here.
 
I've never used a Max so I have zero first hand experience with it...
But

I've read just about every comment, review, complaint, & praise about it here and elsewhere, and the conclusion I've personally come to is the Max is a downgrade from the 8+ in enough important areas to be a non-option for me. I'd never buy one even at 1/2 the price.
I probably wouldn't even use it if it was given to me as a gift.
 
https://wccftech.com/3d-touch-on-iphone-is-here-to-stay-will-not-be-removed-in-ios-13/
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It sounds pretty much confirmed by now that 3D Touch will be gone in this next gen iPhone, which I’m not happy about. So unless something else really blows me away about that phone, I don’t feel justified moving over to it.

Coming from an 8+, is the xs max still a decent option that will be good for a couple years? I know the cameras on it are better, speakers are better, bigger screen etc. But for the most part, are the major kinks worked out? Is the intel model still a big issue after all the updates?

My contracts up fairly soon here and I would like to enjoy 3D Touch a bit longer, it’s especially useful for me in games like pubg

See above^ 3D touch may not be dead, also I have 0 reception issues with my Max. Same as/if not better than my 8+ and any other iPhone I've owned.

The part about the modem is clearly a YMMV situation. Everyone will have their anecdotal stories. My anecdotal story is that I don’t have any issues and get good reception in the places I go.

True that, in my experience the Xs max is definitely not as good as my 8 plus used to be.

Weird how that works, my MAX is just as good as my 8+ was, if not better, and my geographical area is problematic cellular wise.

I've never used a Max so I have zero first hand experience with it...
But

I've read just about every comment, review, complaint, & praise about it here and elsewhere, and the conclusion I've personally come to is the Max is a downgrade from the 8+ in enough important areas to be a non-option for me. I'd never buy one even at 1/2 the price.
I probably wouldn't even use it if it was given to me as a gift.

Not true in my case, my MAX is easily the best iPhone I've owned. Leaps and bounds better than my 8+ was in almost every aspect. Granted, everyone's use case varies, mine remains constant as far as my daily routine and the MAX is without any issues others have reported.
 
I've never used a Max so I have zero first hand experience with it...
But

I've read just about every comment, review, complaint, & praise about it here and elsewhere, and the conclusion I've personally come to is the Max is a downgrade from the 8+ in enough important areas to be a non-option for me. I'd never buy one even at 1/2 the price.
I probably wouldn't even use it if it was given to me as a gift.

What are these alleged areas the 8+ is so much better than the Max that you wouldn’t even use one if you were given it as a gift? Face ID takes about 5 minutes to get used to. You don’t even notice the notch.

In my opinion, the vast majority of people who claim the 8+ is superior to the Max do so in order to try and make themselves believe they aren’t missing out. The Max is the best large iPhone ever made. If someone resists the Max due to its price, I get it. Avoiding it due to the notch or Face ID is really shorting yourself of a superior phone. I miss mine badly, but the pwm happened to affect me too strongly to keep it. Nothing about my 8+ is better except for how cheap it would be to replace it today.
 
Appreciating the feedback so far guys. I figure since I do a lot of mobile gaming that the screen upgrade would be a big one. Also being that the a12 is supposed to run more efficiently, i was also hoping it wouldn’t get as hot as my 8 does when playing games

Reception is the big worry for me because where I do go work there is definitely low reception spots. But sounds like it varies user to user
 
Appreciating the feedback so far guys. I figure since I do a lot of mobile gaming that the screen upgrade would be a big one. Also being that the a12 is supposed to run more efficiently, i was also hoping it wouldn’t get as hot as my 8 does when playing games

Reception is the big worry for me because where I do go work there is definitely low reception spots. But sounds like it varies user to user
My wife loves her 8+, I tried to get her on a Max this year, she wouldn't have it. After using my MAX (all screen) I don't like when I use her 8+, which was my favorite iPhone until I got my Max.
 
I've never used a Max so I have zero first hand experience with it...
But

I've read just about every comment, review, complaint, & praise about it here and elsewhere, and the conclusion I've personally come to is the Max is a downgrade from the 8+ in enough important areas to be a non-option for me. I'd never buy one even at 1/2 the price.
I probably wouldn't even use it if it was given to me as a gift.

Your conclusion is horrifically flawed, the only area where an 8+ beats a Max is the cheaper price.
 
Your conclusion is horrifically flawed,

It's not flawed. It's my opinion. I want nothing to do with that phone.
There's more than one person who doesn't like:

1. The notch
2. Face ID
3. PWM flickering eyestrain & headaches
4. Poor connectivity in low signal areas
5. LACK of bezels (I NEED top & bottom bezels for some things I do with the phone)
6. Strange scrolling behavior of text at certain brightness levels
7. Off axis color shift.
8. Insane price (but I wouldn't buy it anyway).

Apple's OLED screens are notorious eyestrain/headache inducers.
 
Gives me lots to think about this summer about what direction to go here. Maybe I’ll be surprised and the 11 will still have 3D Touch. Would be a nice surprise
 
Love my Xs Max. It really is the ultimate Apple device.

No reception issues for me. The networks will reset themselves occasionally, but I think that has more to do with Dual Sim than the modem.

OLED really is superior to LCD, and I was a hardcore LCD fan before getting this phone. I absolutely hated the home button since the beginning really. Face ID stomps all over Touch ID. Also Dual Sim is most beneficial.

Portrait photos are not to be mistaken as a gimmick either. Takes mobile photography to a whole nother level. I wouldn't take an 8+ over this phone if someone paid me... Seriously.

You won't be disappointed if you go Xs Max.
 
I've personally come to is the Max is a downgrade from the 8+

Wait a minute, how would you know the iPhone Max is a downgrade from the 8+, when you own neither of those phones and haven’t experienced either of them, according to a post that you said you only use your iPhone 6 Plus. Care to explain something you don’t have knowledge on?

I'm keeping my iPhone 6+ (on iOS 9) & still not upgrading. Ha!

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...year-and-not-upgrading.2146051/#post-26627596
 
I've never used a Max so I have zero first hand experience with it...
But

I've read just about every comment, review, complaint, & praise about it here and elsewhere, and the conclusion I've personally come to is the Max is a downgrade from the 8+ in enough important areas to be a non-option for me. I'd never buy one even at 1/2 the price.
I probably wouldn't even use it if it was given to me as a gift.

Without any real world, or for that matter, any experience at all with a Max, this post is useless.
I’m sure the OP can read as well.
You condemn a phone you know nothing about as if your lack of knowledge has meaning.

The Max is a huge step up from the 6s/Plus, still using iOS 9 that you’re apparently using.
Now see, that’s the jump I made, 6s Plus (always running latest PB’s) to a Max, and the Max runs and works faster and better. That’s what real world experience is.
 
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Willing to bet that 3D touch is not going anywhere on flagship models. They are just trying to bring more of a feature parity with haptic touch on budget models which don't have 3D touch.
 
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I’ve been using my xmax without a SIM card for a few weeks and wasnt even aware there were connectivity issues. How bad is it. Are all models affected?

The reason I haven’t tried any other sim in is that I was previously contracted to EE (since transferred) and they have a 6 month ownership policy where the iPhone cannot be unlocked within the initial period (6 month)

I will be eligible to unlock my xsm at end of this month and will be using my new contract sim (O2) but this thread has me worried that there are cellular issues. How widespread is this and does it appear to be hardware related as opposed to software (update fixable)?
 
I’ve been using my xmax without a SIM card for a few weeks and wasnt even aware there were connectivity issues. How bad is it. Are all models affected?

The reason I haven’t tried any other sim in is that I was previously contracted to EE (since transferred) and they have a 6 month ownership policy where the iPhone cannot be unlocked within the initial period (6 month)

I will be eligible to unlock my xsm at end of this month and will be using my new contract sim (O2) but this thread has me worried that there are cellular issues. How widespread is this and does it appear to be hardware related as opposed to software (update fixable)?

Seemingly it was en masse with "launch" Xs Max, and disproportionately affected Verizon customers here in the US (don't remember if there was any Carrier affected more than the other in the UK).

Complaints since that time have subsided, and whatever was going on seems to have been rectified. Basically, it's a non-starter, nothing to worry about.

My signal on my Xs Max is just fine.
 
I love when people who have no first hand experience voice their "informed" opinion based on what they've heard others say. My personal experience going from a 7+ to a Max, took me about a week to get over not having a home button and now after using the Max for a year the home button on my ipad pro seems antiquated and annoying. Never had any reception issues with mine, battery life is great, great phone all around.

OP, only you can decide what you like but you definitely shouldn't worry about anything being wrong with the Max. Me personally, I cannot stand what the new iphone's look like. The square camera bump looks hideous IMO so if that's what the new phone will actually look like I'll be keeping my max for a long while.
 
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It's not flawed. It's my opinion. I want nothing to do with that phone.
There's more than one person who doesn't like:

1. The notch
2. Face ID
3. PWM flickering eyestrain & headaches
4. Poor connectivity in low signal areas
5. LACK of bezels (I NEED top & bottom bezels for some things I do with the phone)
6. Strange scrolling behavior of text at certain brightness levels
7. Off axis color shift.
8. Insane price (but I wouldn't buy it anyway).

Apple's OLED screens are notorious eyestrain/headache inducers.

The notch isn't getting in your way in any way. You even forget that it exists because of the huge screen.

Face ID is better IMO but it's all personal. Both FID and TID are some of the most secure features in every smartphone and you wouldn't go wrong with either of them.

I have migraines and the PWM hasn't affected me in any way (I haven't noticed more headaches than usual). Maybe some people are more sensitive to it, but I don't see an issue there.

What exactly do you do with the top and bottom bezels?

Any examples of the 'strange scrolling behavior'?

The off axis color shift isn't that bad. You only notice is when the background is white. Do you look at your phone from the side all the time?

And about the price, it all depends if the person can afford it or not. For some people, it's not an issue.
 
The notch isn't getting in your way in any way. You even forget that it exists because of the huge screen.

Face ID is better IMO but it's all personal. Both FID and TID are some of the most secure features in every smartphone and you wouldn't go wrong with either of them.

I have migraines and the PWM hasn't affected me in any way (I haven't noticed more headaches than usual). Maybe some people are more sensitive to it, but I don't see an issue there.

What exactly do you do with the top and bottom bezels?

Any examples of the 'strange scrolling behavior'?

The off axis color shift isn't that bad. You only notice is when the background is white. Do you look at your phone from the side all the time?

And about the price, it all depends if the person can afford it or not. For some people, it's not an issue.
Price is obviously a turn off but carriers are having more deals and I’m sure even more will pop up when the next one is announced
 
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