>80% @ 1000cycles MBP Battery Apple Claim

[jsnuff1]

Alright. Let me put it another way then.

Back in 2012, which is when you said that you bought your MacBook Pro, Apple's statement about battery life made mentioned the 80% within 1000 cycles, and even back then said defective batteries were covered under the standard 1 year warranty.

This was Apple's support page about batteries in November, 2012:

https://web.archive.org/web/20121119220712/http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html

Ok so what are you trying to say? This is directly out of the Archive you posted:

"Your new Apple notebook features advanced battery chemistry that greatly extends the battery’s lifespan. The built-in battery of your MacBook Pro or MacBook Air is designed to deliver up to 1000 full charge and discharge cycles before it reaches 80 percent of its original capacity. In addition, Adaptive Charging reduces the wear and tear on the battery giving it a lifespan of up to 5 years. Be sure to fully charge your portable when you plug it in for the first time, and then run Software Update to ensure you have the latest software. Apple periodically releases updates that may improve battery performance."

Thats about as black and white as it can get. The battery is supposed to last 5 years, and be at least 80% capacity if its under 1000 cycles within that time. This is in Apple's own words, not mine or anyone else's.

@PaulWog

This is not about warranties or trying to calculate expected life out of a battery (where did you get those numbers anyway?). Its about Apple's CLAIMS to what the battery life and design parameters will be. I understand things break, there are oddball cases, and not everything lives up to claims, but this just seems to be a gross misrepresentation on Apple's part.

Now if everyone with a 2012-2013 MBP posts on here showing all their battery capacities are above 80% and within 1000cycles I will stand corrected, and I just got an unlucky battery. But I could bet that wont be the case.

Class Actions have been filed and won against Apple on smaller claims than this.

 

[GastonM]

Well, it's a matter of luck I guess...

 

[thekev]

On a side note I sent in my 2012 to get the logic board replaced under the extended video support program and they sent it back to me with a new logic board, and top case (which includes a new battery and keyboard).

If they handle it through depot repair, they just replace anything that needs to be replaced.

 

[bcave098]

Ok so what are you trying to say? This is directly out of the Archive you posted:

"Your new Apple notebook features advanced battery chemistry that greatly extends the battery’s lifespan. The built-in battery of your MacBook Pro or MacBook Air is designed to deliver up to 1000 full charge and discharge cycles before it reaches 80 percent of its original capacity. In addition, Adaptive Charging reduces the wear and tear on the battery giving it a lifespan of up to 5 years. Be sure to fully charge your portable when you plug it in for the first time, and then run Software Update to ensure you have the latest software. Apple periodically releases updates that may improve battery performance."

Thats about as black and white as it can get. The battery is supposed to last 5 years, and be at least 80% capacity if its under 1000 cycles within that time. This is in Apple's own words, not mine or anyone else's.

@PaulWog

This is not about warranties or trying to calculate expected life out of a battery (where did you get those numbers anyway?). Its about Apple's CLAIMS to what the battery life and design parameters will be. I understand things break, there are oddball cases, and not everything lives up to claims, but this just seems to be a gross misrepresentation on Apple's part.

Now if everyone with a 2012-2013 MBP posts on here showing all their battery capacities are above 80% and within 1000cycles I will stand corrected, and I just got an unlucky battery. But I could bet that wont be the case.

Class Actions have been filed and won against Apple on smaller claims than this.

The key is "up to". This is not a guarantee as batteries are considered consumables.

 

[shareef777]

The key is "up to". This is not a guarantee as batteries are considered consumables.

So can they say up to a million cycles!? Obviously not. It's their job to determine a reasonable variance to advertise. If someone got to 80% capacity at 950 cycles I'd consider that's reasonable. But hitting 80% capacity with over 200 cycles of their advertised count is far too short.