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maplingstorie

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really?? are you seriously kidding me? What's up with Mavericks? :confused: 8 Tabs of Safari (no flash related), a movie running and app store open.


P.S 'purge' command in terminal does no justice.
 

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i've been seeing a few posters noting this with safari. might wanna give chrome a try. i'm not having memory issues with it.
 
3.36 GB inactive? That's not normal. Try restarting your computer.
On my rMBP 15" 16GB ram Mavericks, the ram was fully occupied and even had page outs when I was editing a 5 minute 720p video. At first, I would never have imagined 16GB RAM would not be enough until I found out after experiencing a horrible system lag like video playback delays, crashes, and unresponsive clicks. (Only FCPX running). This isn't normal right?
 
No, its definitevly not. Any 3rd party stuff involved that might interfere with ur system ?
 
my rmbp does the same things.
nothing open, still swapping like crazy and all memory occupied.
its mavericks new memory management. i wouldn't worry.
 
No, its definitevly not. Any 3rd party stuff involved that might interfere with ur system ?
I don't have my rMBP 15" with me now. It's sent for repair because of IR issues (thank goodness for Apple Care) but i'm very positive. In activity monitor, final cut pro x was using 2GB ram. And the other 14GB ram was no where to be found in Activity Monitor. My RAM fills up super quick every time I run FCPX on Mavericks. So it has to be related with FCPX. Memory leak I suppose? :eek:
 
I don't have my rMBP 15" with me now. It's sent for repair because of IR issues (thank goodness for Apple Care) but i'm very positive. In activity monitor, final cut pro x was using 2GB ram. And the other 14GB ram was no where to be found in Activity Monitor. My RAM fills up super quick every time I run FCPX on Mavericks. So it has to be related with FCPX. Memory leak I suppose? :eek:

It looks like it. I'm not getting any leaks on my system as far as I can tell, so there may be a third party program that has the leak.
 
my rmbp does the same things.
nothing open, still swapping like crazy and all memory occupied.
its mavericks new memory management. i wouldn't worry.
But it lags my system. I don't call this a proper memory management if I have to suffer in performance, experience lags and page outs. :apple:
 
as you can see from your istat you are only actually using 3.38gb

how many times do we have to go over this:

A) you don't want to clear you ram (you will technically make your computer slower)
B) you want 100% ram usage (cached data makes your computer faster)
C) the more ram you have the more programs will tend to use

and your computer shouldn't touch swap until active goes over 8gb
 
really?? are you seriously kidding me? What's up with Mavericks? :confused: 8 Tabs of Safari (no flash related), a movie running and app store open.


P.S 'purge' command in terminal does no justice.

It's designed to use as much RAM as possible. That's Mavericks for you.

Look at the "memory pressure" graph to better get an idea of how well you're utilizing your memory.

I wouldn't be worried about it at all.
 
I dont agree with u guys. Yes, it should use all memory availabe to cache files from disk ifit still got some ram. However, it should NOT use swap for this! ( what an irony if it would cache files from disk on disk).. Something is going wrong here. For now, keep restarting from time to time to get rid of any leaks that might have occured.
 
There should be some other threads hear talking about the way Mavericks handles memory--different than previous versions. It tries to use ALL available RAM to optimize memory usage--at least that's what I got out of those other threads.
 
It's designed to use as much RAM as possible. That's Mavericks for you.

Look at the "memory pressure" graph to better get an idea of how well you're utilizing your memory.

I wouldn't be worried about it at all.
Yes. I agree that Mavericks is designed to use as much RAM as possible. But not until it pages out and impact my system's performance. :( that's too much.
 
Yes. I agree that Mavericks is designed to use as much RAM as possible. But not until it pages out and impact my system's performance. :( that's too much.

I wonder if it's due to your 128 GB SSD? Can't be sure, just saying because no one else has had the same issue as you... 'cuz you're not a power user.
 
Yes. I agree that Mavericks is designed to use as much RAM as possible. But not until it pages out and impact my system's performance. :( that's too much.

Is it impacting performance? how can you tell?


With respect to why you would have pageouts if you have free RAM, the pageout/pagein counters are from boot time and you may have had some activity since you booted that did have a need for more RAM than you had at that time. Also, it is possible for a program to map a file into RAM and read it via pagein, then write to it by using pageouts. For most file I/O this is not efficient, but it is an option available to programmers, and a few use it. Pageout/pagein counters are not restricted to just the swapfiles, so this type of I/O will also increment them.
https://discussions.apple.com/message/22313562#22313562


Predictive-models for memory scheduling algorithms are a big deal. Its very possible that the OS is paging frequently accessed app-memory even after it gets closed. I wouldn't be surprised if mavericks implemented it as another energy-saving measure since computational resources cost a lot more energy (and takes longer) than fetching pre-computed data from a fast SSD.
 
Is it impacting performance? how can you tell?
My safari pages load very slow. Apps open slower than usual. The performance difference is drastic and it only happens when my RAM is full and starts paging out. When I video edit on my 15" rMBP, FCPX become so unresponsive and keeps crashing when the RAM maxes out.
 
My safari pages load very slow. Apps open slower than usual. The performance difference is drastic and it only happens when my RAM is full and starts paging out. When I video edit on my 15" rMBP, FCPX become so unresponsive and keeps crashing when the RAM maxes out.

How full is your SSD?
 
My safari pages load very slow. Apps open slower than usual. The performance difference is drastic and it only happens when my RAM is full and starts paging out. When I video edit on my 15" rMBP, FCPX become so unresponsive and keeps crashing when the RAM maxes out.

Yeah, that's abnormal. I'm doing chrome/photoshop/premier on 4gb and it doesn't stutter.
 
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