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Discussion in 'iPad' started by Michaelgtrusa, Mar 22, 2016.
9.7-inch iPad Pro unboxing!
Wrong...its not everything the 12.9" pro is. Apple totally blew it with the 9.7" by only putting in 2 gigs of ram...We really wanted this 9.7 No interest in it now, likely going to suffer with the too big 12.9"
Is 2GB of RAM actually limiting to people on iOS right now? Because all I ever is see is people commenting, "but... but... When iOS 11 comes along it might not be enough anymore!"
You can run full Windows and OS X on 2GB of RAM. I don't get why this is such a deal breaker for some people.
The iPad Pro 9.7" 2nd gen will surely have 4GB ram and will be enough of a reason for people to upgrade to future proof their iPads, silly apple games.
And a lot of those people who think that then go for the Air 2 which has the same 2GB of RAM and so will last about the same or slightly less time than the new 9.7" Pro.
Of course the price is less but they are sacrificing many nice features of the new device.
LOL relax. it seems the extra RAM is for the 12.9's screen and has no hit on functionality what so ever. I bought the 9.7 and i'd love to see more RAM, but its still a crazy awesome technological device.
This couldn't be more true:
Some people are whiners and got to be unhappy!
Apple has never has a product introduction with out making "some cry like a baby". Most will be more than happy and Apple will continue to be a success to their dismay.
The next version will always be better, but the specifics are never a certainty. People were predicting 2GB iOS devices long before it actually happened.
Yes, you're right. Apple blew it. This thing will fail miserably. They'll be lucky if they sell a dozen...
I don't understand the reason for apple to go with 2GB ram vs 4GB ram. I guess they do need something "new" for the next model given they have crammed all the latest tech in the new iPad Pro 9.7". One thing that does piss me off is that they never release a device that we all want but rather half of it so it will be compelling enough for users to keep on upgrading to "keep up" with the technology.
edit: next up, users will complain of safari tabs reloading for not having enough ram. Apple will address it and call it the new super fast iPad Pro 2 9.7". Cat and mouse game all day with apple it seems.
brother steve, thats just not true. They never announce RAM specs. I am sure the extra 2GB really was unneeded.
It won't be a big deal. I used the 12.9 yesterday and didn't honestly notice a huge difference in speed from my Air 2. Granted, I don't see a ton of need for more than 1 app at a time or the extra screen real estate, so maybe it's just me. At first, I was pissed as well, but I don't think it will be much of an issue for at least a couple years.
They probably included 4GB in the 12.9" due to the incessant whining of Macrumors posters, then realized what a complete waste of MILLIONS in profit that was, and decided to fix it.
Every comment that people have been making re: 2GB vs 4GB RAM is not about "actually limiting to people on iOS right now" so I don't know why you are framing the conversation in that manner.
The issue isn't about the here-and-now but is longevity. The lower-spec'ed Air 2 has 2GB, and was the first iPad to include 2GB RAM. The 9.7 Pro has 2GB and was released 1.5 years after the Air 2. That means that the 9.7 Pro will have a shorter lifespan for those operations that are RAM-sensitive.
The 12.9 Pro was released 6 months ago with 4GB. THAT will have a significant lifespan.
The basic rule of thumb is that the first model introduced with a higher RAM capacity has a longer effective life. THAT is why people are concerned.
Is there any shoot outs out there yet between the air 2 and pro 9.7 ?
Those who complain about "only" 2GB of RAM should take a look at Microsoft's Surface 3, which runs full Windows 10, and functions as a full laptop... With 2GB of RAM. But somehow that much memory is considered "under powered" or "crippling" for iOS, which despite its advancements is still an OS designed for a phone.
The Surface 3 also costs significantly less, but let's not get into that.
Apple can't predict what their users need, their job is to continually innovate and not limit our abilities to truly put a machine to test. Mark my words, next iPad pro 9.7" WILL have 4gb ram and all because they wanted people to upgrade continually. It a waste of time.
Everything is amazing and nobody is happy. I think about this all the time. I'm still amazed with how things are today...I remember back in the day if someone wanted to call you, you had to be home!
But that's my point. Everyone seems to be always worried about the future and "future proofing" their devices. I care more about what's a good product right now, because now is when I will be using it. Who knows what the future will bring?
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It's so true. I always marvel at this. The devices that we have today are frankly amazing! This stuff was literally science fiction 20 years ago. But indeed, the better technology gets the more people complain about it not being good enough.
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There are haters here for sure. But some of us are old school/long time Apple aficionados that see the current Apple and have bad flashbacks to the stale, confused Apple of the mid-90s -- the one who's board had to crawl back to Steve Jobs to revive.
The 9.7 iPad Pro is an interesting update. Honestly, I was set to buy until Apple got greedy even by its own standards. It is overpriced for it's specs. I've yet to come across anyone here who can intellectually defend the price hike. It's price:spec ratio rightfully turns off a lot of money-in-hand buyers. Changing the product's name doesn't negate the specs. Maybe if Apple did a better job of the even explaining why they increased the price I'd understand. But Schiller mumbled through the price part because he knew it was pure B.S.
If you want to be a Pollyanna OK. But I see the criticism here as constructive and made by people that love Apple products but not mindless slaves to the logo. I think calling everyone a hater just because they point out deficiencies is misguided unless you are OK with Apple continuing to live off its name to justify price hikes w/o providing something more for the extra cost, or at least a good rationale.
I am no fanboy of Apple and own and use the latest Surface pro and run windows on my Macs. I will buy what ever suits my needs or wants. Apple can not make everyone happy and there are always complaints when they introduce new products.
I'm not a fan of the price increase and I don't know if this is the case but I can think of one legitimate reason for the price hike. It is the first price hike since the original ipad. This is the 7th year of ipad sales and no price increases. Sure, some components have gone down in price but newer technology, making components smaller, and figuring out how to shove it into a smaller frame costs money. Add on top of that inflation. Are you paying the same price for a car, food, clothes, etc... that you paid 7 years ago? Okay, that is my most legitimate reason for a price hike even though I don't like it.
No company can make everyone happy. It's why competition exists. But that doesn't mean that fans of a company can't be critical of its products without being attacked at "whiners" or "haters." I mean it's the old tale of the Emperor's New Clothes.
we don't know that. Maybe Ipad pro 12.9 had 4GB to handle the larger screen resolution. Maybe 2GB will be the baseline for a few more years except for the super high res screens?
This idea that RAM at 4GB would magically future-proof something for, what, 5 years rather than 3 is kind of strange. We honestly don't know what anything will be like in 5 years. What if, in three years, an entirely new device that combines the iPad Pro with the MacBook is released and we all go ape-**** and buy that?
But more likely (if it really does have 2 GB--there have been some conflicting reports) due to the fact it has 2 GB, Apple will make sure that iOS only needs that for a while.
But, in the end, you have to determine what to buy and when. It just seems silly to wait based on RAM. I didn't even know that the 12.9" had 4GB when I bought it.