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It's a pity iPhone 12 mini is selling so poorly...
Smallest screen (poor media consumption experience), hardest to type on, and shortest battery life. I don’t understand why people would buy the Mini but to each their own.
 
Smallest screen (poor media consumption experience), hardest to type on, and shortest battery life. I don’t understand why people would buy the Mini but to each their own.
You mention only the downsides, no one is denying them. But for many people, the upsides, such as the better fit on the pocket and the easier handling of the phone, make it worth it.

I’m the first one who would enjoy a bigger screen, mind you, because I make the fonts bigger on my iPhone and iPad to read them better. But I don’t want a big device, and my right hand marks the limits of this.
 
I hate to keep saying “I told you so,” but I called the poor iPhone 12 mini sales for many months before launch. I got roasted for it, but it was obvious. There’s a very small niche who want a tiny phone...everybody else is used to larger displays. Budget iPhone users got used to large, 6.1” phones. With the 11 and XR still available, and cheaper, they weren’t going back to a 5.4” phone. If anything, those upgrading from the XR would spend a little more and get the 12. Those upgrading from the 6s/7/8 would spend less than the 12 mini and get the SE 2020, XR or 11. Again: obvious.
 
Yes, it is only a $100 difference. The regular 12 is too big. My mini has plenty of screen.
 
I hate to keep saying “I told you so,” but I called the poor iPhone 12 mini sales for many months before launch. I got roasted for it, but it was obvious. There’s a very small niche who want a tiny phone...everybody else is used to larger displays. Budget iPhone users got used to large, 6.1” phones. With the 11 and XR still available, and cheaper, they weren’t going back to a 5.4” phone. If anything, those upgrading from the XR would spend a little more and get the 12. Those upgrading from the 6s/7/8 would spend less than the 12 mini and get the SE 2020, XR or 11. Again: obvious.
Only Apple knows what the sales of the different models of iphones are. Your definition of "poor" sales might not be Apples.
 
Only Apple knows what the sales of the different models of iphones are. Your definition of "poor" sales might not be Apples.
You are pushing some conspiracy theories. Published data shows that mini was not popular as a XMAS gift. Unless you can come up with an explanation why mini could be unpopular as a XMAS gift yet still popular otherwise, you are just talking nonsense. Is it popular among Muslims and atheists or something?
 
Looking for a massive quarter from Apple.
When I initially saw the device I thought it would outsell the SE, until they announced the price. $100 less than the flagship just isn’t enough of a discount incentive for the trade-offs IMO. They should have priced it $250 lower.

Look at the iPhone SE in this chart as the highest % of increase at 34%.
 
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MacRumors told me that the Mini would outsell every iPhone.
Not at only $100 cheaper than the flagship 12 model. Needed a higher discount rate. Not iPhone SE levels, but more than $100. Not enough incentive.
 
You are pushing some conspiracy theories. Published data shows that mini was not popular as a XMAS gift. Unless you can come up with an explanation why mini could be unpopular as a XMAS gift yet still popular otherwise, you are just talking nonsense. Is it popular among Muslims and atheists or something?
Can you show me actual sales vs Apple targets? I’ll wait.
 
Smallest screen (poor media consumption experience), hardest to type on, and shortest battery life. I don’t understand why people would buy the Mini but to each their own.

I have a 7+. The Mini is about the size of a 7 but the screen is almost a 7+. This is what I would buy to replace my 7+.

Why? I'm a runner and finding shorts that can hold a large phone is challenging. Also, additional weight bouncing around can be annoying.
 
Not at only $100 cheaper than the flagship 12 model. Needed a higher discount rate. Not iPhone SE levels, but more than $100. Not enough incentive.

Xfinity Mobile is discounting all of the iPhone models by $250 including the Mini and SE.

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People suggesting the Mini is selling poorly just need to remember, this data is only for the US. I’m sure on the whole it’s as popular to some degree as the normal iPhone 12. As impressive as the article is, smartphones are so good nowadays that people are keeping them much longer than just a few years ago.
 
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I have a 7+. The Mini is about the size of a 7 but the screen is almost a 7+. This is what I would buy to replace my 7+.

Why? I'm a runner and finding shorts that can hold a large phone is challenging. Also, additional weight bouncing around can be annoying.

Be careful with this assumption. I assumed the same but the mini is significantly slimmer in width that the 7+ meaning the text is much smaller. The text is actually smaller than on the non plus model.
 
Be careful with this assumption. I assumed the same but the mini is significantly slimmer in width that the 7+ meaning the text is much smaller. The text is actually smaller than on the non plus model.

That's one feature that I've wanted from the iPhone for a long time. The ability to shrink text more than the current slider allows.

I have three 27 inch 4k monitors that I run at native resolution and I often run my MacBook Pros at native resolution using EasyRes.
 
I wouldn't fret about the 12 mini. At this point in history the iPhone SE give more bang-for-the-buck for many customers. My wife compared the two and went with the SE, even when she could have had the 12 mini for the same price (due to the phone I upgraded to.)

In a pandemic, TouchID is better than FaceID. Apple should have figured out how to make FaceID work with masked faces (TouchID handles multiple fingers -- why can't FaceID let you enter unmarked and masked versions of your face?)

My wife spends 90+% of her time in areas with WiFi. And in that sliver of time she's away from WiFi, she doesn't do anything where the 5G speeds would help her noticeably. Never mind that tests of 5G currently show they are not better than LTE most of the time.

When 5G starts to show marked improvement in real-world conditions in more areas, and FaceID gets convenience-parity with TouchID, the market for the 12 mini (or its descendant) will gain traction. At the moment, it's smart for Apple to cannibalize its sales for now from below with the SE.
 
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When I initially saw the device I thought it would outsell the SE, until they announced the price. $100 less than the flagship just isn’t enough of a discount incentive for the trade-offs IMO. They should have priced it $250 lower.

Look at the iPhone SE in this chart as the highest % of increase at 34%.
I wouldn’t call it based on one study that is likely flawed, incomplete, or just wrong. Only Apple knows and they’ll adjust pricing if it needs it.
 
I think I am the only one here that uses my iPhone (7) to make phone calls. I have no data plan and the only app I ever use is the calculator. I'm glad Apple is doing so well, but I miss the days when they were a computer company.

Apple makes plenty of computers still, from Macs to iPhones, iPads, watches etc.
 
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Can you show me actual sales vs Apple targets? I’ll wait.
That's not what people here are talking about. Nobody really cares about Apple targets. People are discussing the disconnect between a vocal minority demanding a small phone and reality in which most people do not want a small phone.
 
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I have a 7+. The Mini is about the size of a 7 but the screen is almost a 7+. This is what I would buy to replace my 7+.

Why? I'm a runner and finding shorts that can hold a large phone is challenging. Also, additional weight bouncing around can be annoying.

Just out of curiosity, would an Apple Watch cellular be an alternative when running?
 
That's not what people here are talking about. Nobody really cares about Apple targets. People are discussing the disconnect between a vocal minority demanding a small phone and reality in which most people do not want a small phone.
I would think many care about knowing Apples targets because that is coveted information. Maybe you don’t, but I sure do. I dont care what macrumors posters think about the sales. I want to know how apple thinks the sales are going.
 
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