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What's everyone's thoughts on these changes: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/...-changes-to-data-plans-iphone-tethering-comi/

DataPlus / DataPro
The existing $30 fair-use "unlimited" smartphone data plan is being replaced by two new options: $15 per month for 200MB and $25 for 2GB (called "DataPlus" and "DataPro," respectively). Customers currently on the $30 plan are welcome to stay on it, but they can switch at any time without extending their contract.
AT&T's new overage system is arguably the game changer: on the $15 plan, you'll pay $15 for each additional 200MB, but on the $25 plan, you'll pay $10 for each additional GB. It's simple and straightforward -- but most importantly, it won't bankrupt you if you go over by a gig or three in a month. This compares to $50 per gigabyte of overage on AT&T's 5GB DataConnect plan for laptops.
The carrier's going to be very flexible about changing between the DataPlus and DataPro plans -- if you're on DataPlus, for example, and you discover that you're blowing past your allotment, you can choose either to start DataPro the following billing cycle, pro-rate it, or apply the higher plan retroactively to the beginning of your current billing cycle. That's pretty wild.

Tethering
Tethering will be offered as an add-on to the DataPro plan for an additional $20 per month, which means you'll pay a total of $45 a month for 2GB of data shared between your phone and your tethered devices. If you're light on the usage, it's a sweet deal -- but if you scale it up and you're using the data almost exclusively on your laptop, it compares unfavorably to the traditional DataConnect plan: $60 versus $75 for 5GB (and in the unlikely even you've got a webOS device on Verizon, it compares even less favorably). If you're striking a balance of data use between a smartphone and tethered gear, AT&T's new setup is still pretty solid considering that you would've been paying $60 for the USB stick plus $30 for smartphone data before.
Yes, it's finally happening: AT&T's iPhones will get access to the tethering option, too.

iPad
iPad users are also affected by the change. The $30 iPad data plan -- lauded for being labeled by AT&T as truly unlimited -- goes away to be replaced by the same $25 / 2GB plan that smartphone users will see, though current subscribers to the $30 plan can continue unaffected.

Will you be better or worse off under these new plans? Light users will undoubtedly benefit more than heavy data users.
 
Reserving comment until I check my usage......
Just checked. In may I used 2.8 gig of data (my highest in 6 months) while my wife used only 48Mb with her highest use in January of this year which was a whopping 57Mb.

That being said this would actually save us money even if I had to pay extra. Dropping her down to the 200Mb plan and with me going a gig over we will still save $10. So I'm all for it!

I was a bit pissed at first but the usage numbers calmed me down. I do and will continue to tether however and I WILL NOT be paying any extra money to do so.
 
total garbage. 2GB caps are a joke and 10/GB overages charges are as well. PR below

AT&T ANNOUNCES NEW LOWER-PRICED WIRELESS DATA PLANS TO MAKE MOBILE INTERNET MORE AFFORDABLE TO MORE PEOPLE

DALLAS, June 2, 2010 - AT&T*, the U.S. smartphone leader, today introduced new wireless data plans that make it more affordable for more people to enjoy the benefits of the mobile Internet. Customers can pick the new data plan that best meets their needs - either a $15 per month entry plan or a $25 per month plan with 10 times more data. Current smartphone customers are not required to switch to the new plans, but can choose to do so without a contract extension.

"AT&T helps mobilize everything on the Internet - your favorite web sites, TV shows, music, games and social networks. Virtually everything previously done while sitting at a computer can now be done on the go," said Ralph de la Vega, president and CEO, AT&T Mobility and Consumer Markets. "To give more people the opportunity to experience these benefits, we're breaking free from the traditional 'one-size-fits-all' pricing model and making the mobile Internet more affordable to a greater number of people."

Each plan includes unlimited access at no additional charge to more than 20,000 AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots in the U.S. Customers can also use unlimited Wi-Fi at home, in the office or elsewhere if available. AT&T will also help customers manage their wireless data usage by sending free text messages when customers reach different usage intervals, and by providing online tools, including a smartphone app that shows monthly usage information.

The new wireless data plans - including a new tethering option - will be available beginning June 7. Current AT&T voice and texting plans are unchanged.

More Choice

The new AT&T plans provide large amounts of data to enable people to enjoy their favorite online activities:

* DataPlus. Provides 200 megabytes (MB) of data - enough to send/receive 1,000 emails (no attachments), send/receive 150 emails with attachments, view 400 Web pages, post 50 photos on social media sites and 20 minutes of streaming video - for just $15 per month. This plan, which can save customers up to 20 percent off their wireless voice and data charges, is designed for people who primarily like to surf the web, send email and use social networking apps. If customers exceed 200 MB in a monthly billing cycle, they will receive an additional 200 MB of data usage for $15 for use in the month. Currently, 65 percent of AT&T smartphone customers use less than 200 MB of data per month on average.

* DataPro. Provides 2 gigabytes (GB) of data - enough to send/receive 10,000 emails (no attachments), send/receive 1,500 emails with attachments, view 4,000 Web pages, post 500 photos to social media sites and watch 200 minutes of streaming video - for $25 per month. Should a customer exceed 2 GB during a billing cycle, they will receive an additional 1 GB of data for $10 for use in the month. Currently, 98 percent of AT&T smartphone customers use less than 2 GB of data a month on average.

* Tethering. Smartphone customers - including iPhone customers - who choose the DataPro plan have the option to add tethering for an additional $20 per month. Tethering enables customers to use their smartphone as a modem to provide a broadband connection for laptop computers, netbooks or other computing devices. Tethering for iPhones will be available when Apple releases OS 4.0 this summer.

With the new wireless data plans, pricing for a smartphone voice and data bundle now starts at just $54.99 per month for an individual plan, or $24.99 per month for an additional line on a FamilyTalk plan, $15 per month less than the price of the previous entry level bundle.

For new iPad customers, the $25 per month 2 GB plan will replace the existing $29.99 unlimited plan. iPad customers will continue to pre-pay for their wireless data plan and no contract is required. Existing iPad customers who have the $29.99 per month unlimited plan can keep that plan or switch to the new $25 per month plan with 2 GB of data.

Wi-Fi at 20,000 AT&T Hot Spots

The vast majority of smartphones that AT&T offers have built-in Wi-Fi, which lets the devices automatically switch from the wireless network to a Wi-Fi hotspot without prompting, making Wi-Fi even more convenient and easy to use. This enables customers to use Wi-Fi in the home, office and at public locations where available. Using Wi-Fi does not count against a customer's monthly data plan usage total. In addition, virtually all AT&T smartphone customers have access at no additional charge to more than 20,000 AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots at Starbucks, Barnes & Noble, and other U.S. locations. Customers can get more information on how to use Wi-Fi and find the location of AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots at www.att.com/wifiaccess.

Monitoring and Managing Usage

To help customers easily check their data usage, AT&T has made the information readily available in a number of ways:

* Customer Text Notifications On Data Usage. When customers begin to approach their monthly usage limit, AT&T will send three text notifications - when they reach 65 percent, 90 percent and 100 percent of the threshold. Customers will also be sent emails if AT&T has their email address.

* Data Usage Monitoring. Additionally, customers with iPhones and other select devices can use the free AT&T myWireless application to check data usage. The application is available for download in several smartphone app stores. Also, AT&T customers can call *DATA# from their wireless phone to check their data usage for the current billing period. They receive a free text message with their usage information. Customers can also go online to www.att.com/wireless to see all their usage information, past and present.

* Data Calculator. The easy-to-use online data calculator enables customers to estimate their mobile data usage and get a better sense for which data plan is right for them. It's located at www.att.com/datacalculator.

Customers can learn more about the new plans online at www.att.com/dataplans, by contacting AT&T customer service at 1-800-331-0500, or by visiting an AT&T retail store.

AT&T expects these new data plans to have minimal revenue impact this year and to not affect previous guidance for 2010.
 
im not even sure how much i use

plus attwireless account is down


so whats the deal with current unlimited users who want tethering? is it going to be another $20?
 
Reserving comment until I check my usage......
Just checked. In may I used 2.8 gig of data (my highest in 6 months) while my wife used only 48Mb with her highest use in January of this year which was a whopping 57Mb.

That being said this would actually save us money even if I had to pay extra. Dropping her down to the 200Mb plan and with me going a gig over we will still save $10. So I'm all for it!

I was a bit pissed at first but the usage numbers calmed me down. I do and will continue to tether however and I WILL NOT be paying any extra money to do so.

may i asked how you were able to check what was your highest data usage month was
 
may i asked how you were able to check what was your highest data usage month was

at&t billing report. There is a link to check data. It gives a 6 month breakdown.
Dec: .9 g
Jan: .9 g
Feb: (started to tether) 1.3g
Mar: 1.6g
Apr: 2.1g
May: 2.8g

LoL, guess you can see lots of good things going on both here and on modmyi that I HAD to check out lol. I'm actually digging the changes.... makes those 5-6gig users actually pay for the extra bandwidth they are hogging.

Long as iPad plan will still offer $30/unlimited, I think I'm good...
Yeah it says if you now have the plan you can keep it.... new peeps have to change it sounds like.


I think I'll stick with my $30/unlimited. I use quite a lot of data on 3G
Won't be an option according to the story. (if you are talking about an iPhone.)
 
If this is true, I'll be getting my first iPhone.

I have Wifi at school and home, so 200MB would be just fine.
 
Wow, what a ripoff. Makes the $10 a month for unlimited 4G on the Evo seem really cheap :)
 
Won't be an option according to the story. (if you are talking about an iPhone.)


yeah it says you can have it grandfathered

btw, can you send me a link? maybe its just me, but i cant log onto att wireless now i keep getting this message


L123: We are unable to process your transaction at this time. We apologize for the inconvenience. You may contact our Customer Care department at 1-800-331-0500 or dial 611 from your wireless phone.
 
Does this include iPhones or just AT&T smartphones??

I know people who use 200 mb a month but pay $30 for unlimited. I think this will attrack more customers

I use 4-5 gigs on my iPhone a month
 
Wow, what a ripoff. Makes the $10 a month for unlimited 4G on the Evo seem really cheap :)

Yeah if you're one of the 50 people that live in the "4g" areas. Are you?

...can you send me a link?

It says iPad can, didn't see where iPhone could be (grandfathered). Any link I could send you would be specific to my bill so it wouldn't work for you. I'm not sure what that message means, keep trying a guess.
 
Something like this is how they should have done it from the beginning. There is limited network bandwidth available and most people have wifi networks available to them on a regular basis. There should be appropriate incentives to move bandwidth intensive activities off of the cellular network, and this is a step in the right direction.

However, now that we're paying for "buckets" of data transfer, why do we have to pay extra for tethering? Why would there be any restrictions on things like Skype and video streaming (on either iPhone or iPad). Ideally as part of this, Skype-over-3G should be fully unlocked, and really all data use should be fully unlocked because we're paying for it.

Of course I know they answer to these questions: AT&T correctly figure that even amongst people who will subscribe to the 2GB/month plan, the average person might use 400MB or 500MB a month, while the average person on that plan plus tethering will use more.

Where does this leave the 250MB $15/month iPad data plan? Downgraded to 200MB?

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Myself, I seem to use 200-230MB/month, although I could easily bring that down a little by keeping app downloads and updates to wifi. I guess I'll be able to downgrade to the $15/month plan.
 
Yeah if you're one of the 50 people that live in the "4g" areas. Are you?

Its over 30 million people actually and they just added 27 new cities for the summer. Have fun with that 3G though, thanks :D Thank God I bought a wifi iPad I can run off my Overdrive at 4G or my Evo now. $25 a month for 2GB is a joke.
 
i was initially peeved at this announcement, but have since calmed down. i am planning on buying iphone 4 as my first iphone, and am disappointed i won't have an unlimited data option. however, i think i'll be just fine with the 2GB limit based on the usage my brother-in-law has experienced on his 3GS. i hope the data plan will continue to be discounted under my premier plan, (currently $22.50 for unlimited) otherwise the $25 would actually be an increase. $20 for tethering is BS, but i guess there is always the jailbreak option. at least no one will have to worry about a $18k bill with the overage structure they are setting up.
 
Its over 30 million people actually and they just added 27 new cities for the summer. Have fun with that 3G though, thanks :D

It seems like you're trolling, but people should know its not $10/month for unlimited 4G... its $10/month extra charge on top of their normal 3G data package.

And AT&T is upgrading their whole network to 14.4Mbps HSPA+ this year so between that and these intelligent limits on bandwidth hogs, there should be some improvement.
 
So, what happens for those users who have an iPhone 3G on the $30 unlimited plan right now and plan to upgrade to the new iPhone when announced? Does it mean that we have to be "downgraded" to these new plans if we sign another contract or can we keep the existing $30 unlimited 3G with the new 2 year agreement?
 
Its over 30 million people actually and they just added 27 new cities for the summer. Have fun with that 3G though, thanks :D Thank God I bought a wifi iPad I can run off my Overdrive at 4G or my Evo now. $25 a month for 2GB is a joke.

It seems like you're trolling, but people should know its not $10/month for unlimited 4G... its $10/month extra charge on top of their normal 3G data package.
And AT&T is upgrading their whole network to 14.4Mbps HSPA+ this year so between that and these intelligent limits on bandwidth hogs, there should be some improvement.
Oh snap! Not as slick as you thought huh!

So, what happens for those users who have an iPhone 3G on the $30 unlimited plan right now and plan to upgrade to the new iPhone when announced? Does it mean that we have to be "downgraded" to these new plans if we sign another contract or can we keep the existing $30 unlimited 3G with the new 2 year agreement?
It seems that you would have to "transition" to one of the new plans. From what I read it seems like every smart phone plan is changing to these 2 options. Check your usage, you may actually end up saving some $$
 
Wait. If you were to upgrade to the new iPhone. Unlimited data won't be available then correct??

I guess this is a way to reduce bandwith usage
 
Wait. If you were to upgrade to the new iPhone. Unlimited data won't be available then correct??

I guess this is a way to reduce bandwith usage

I can't imagine. They will say that if you want a subsidy on a new phone, you have to sign up for a qualifying contract... which will only be the new data plans. Maybe you could keep your grandfathered in rate if you find a new iPhone off of contract and simply transfer your service to the new phone? Could be worth it for all these people that are supposedly finding a way to use 5GB/month.
 
Debating whether to stick with my $30 unlimited or drop to the $25 2GB. I guess it makes sense to drop down if I stay under 2GB 51% or more of the months I'm on the plan for, right? Also, what happens if I use 2.0001 GB? Would I get charged $35 for that month?
 
Debating whether to stick with my $30 unlimited or drop to the $25 2GB. I guess it makes sense to drop down if I stay under 2GB 51% or more of the months I'm on the plan for, right? Also, what happens if I use 2.0001 GB? Would I get charged $35 for that month?

It would be nuce if any "extra" unused data you paid for if you went over your first allocation rolled over for the next month in that situation but I doubt it ever will. :(

Paying for another chunk of bandwidth for such a low overuse would annoy me.
 
I can't imagine. They will say that if you want a subsidy on a new phone, you have to sign up for a qualifying contract... which will only be the new data plans. Maybe you could keep your grandfathered in rate if you find a new iPhone off of contract and simply transfer your service to the new phone? Could be worth it for all these people that are supposedly finding a way to use 5GB/month.

damn...because i really want to get the new iphone but keep my $30 unlimited data. i really hope i will still be grandfathered in when i upgrade :(
 
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