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So VZW will have 4G lock, they will be only carrier with nationwide LTE license

The first link says AT&T and T-Mobile will both implement LTE based 4G. Where does it say Verizon has a lock? Sprint reps even told me the may abandon WiMax for LTE.
 
barefeats said:
The first link says AT&T and T-Mobile will both implement LTE based 4G. Where does it say Verizon has a lock? Sprint reps even told me the may abandon WiMax for LTE.
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It would be nice to see all the carriers using the same network tech, it would make unlocked phones much more usefull
 
"nationwide LTE license" probably wasn't the best choice of words. Verizon will have nationwide 4G about a year before anyone else, but that has less to do with a license and more to do with prudent corporate planning.
 
thales said:
"nationwide LTE license" probably wasn't the best choice of words. Verizon will have nationwide 4G about a year before anyone else, but that has less to do with a license and more to do with prudent corporate planning.
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WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN VZW purchased block C, the ONLY complete nationwide 700 mhz nationwide block for 4G, they purchased back in 2008!
Att and T-Mo will have 700 mhz 4G but they will have to piece meal markets together

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9911450-7.html
 
Bonds79 said:
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN VZW purchased block C, the ONLY complete nationwide 700 mhz nationwide block for 4G, they purchased back in 2008!
Att and T-Mo will have 700 mhz 4G but they will have to piece meal markets together

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9911450-7.html
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It's an advantage to be sure but it's a long long way from a lock.

If you think other operators will just roll over... well, that won't happen. It could take them some time to figure out how to proceed, but they'll get there in due time.

...and FYI, 700 MHz is really really great for some things, and really really bad for others.
 
Bonds79 said:
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN VZW purchased block C, the ONLY complete nationwide 700 mhz nationwide block for 4G, they purchased back in 2008!
Att and T-Mo will have 700 mhz 4G but they will have to piece meal markets together

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9911450-7.html
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Lol, badly stated. AT&T purchased their own nationwide Block A... Verizon got Block C... Every other Block got split between others.
 
Bonds79 said:
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN VZW purchased block C, the ONLY complete nationwide 700 mhz nationwide block for 4G, they purchased back in 2008!
Att and T-Mo will have 700 mhz 4G but they will have to piece meal markets together

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9911450-7.html
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AT&T bought enough of the 700mhz spectrum from Aloha Partners to cover 200 million Americans. They are hardly piecing anything together, and Verizon certainly doesn't have anything close to an exclusive nationwide 4G license.
 
asleep said:
30ms latency!!!!!:eek:
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OK, be careful here - that's 30ms radio network latency. The latency included in you doing anything useful on the internet is NOT included. You need to add that 30ms to whatever other ping time is involved in getting your packets to and from where they need to go.

But yes, one of LTE's key design tenets has been to bring latency way way down from EVDO/HSPA.
 
thales said:
AT&T bought enough of the 700mhz spectrum from Aloha Partners to cover 200 million Americans. They are hardly piecing anything together, and Verizon certainly doesn't have anything close to an exclusive nationwide 4G license.
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Exactly... in fact, Verizon got the best and worse block for them. Good, because it is the 'best' spectrum of the whole auction. Bad because they bought the spectrum that was 'opened' thanks to Google. Verizon likes closed... something which Block C isn't.
 
Verizon pulled out of Puerto Rico for some reason about two years ago. I like the idea of an iPhone 5 running on their future LTE network but it's not even a possibility here in PR.
 
jav6454 said:
Exactly... in fact, Verizon got the best and worse block for them. Good, because it is the 'best' spectrum of the whole auction. Bad because they bought the spectrum that was 'opened' thanks to Google. Verizon likes closed... something which Block C isn't.
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Open = Awesome for the consumer

att's closed environment is not a benefit for the consumer!
 
LTE isn't married to the 700 MHz band exclusively, you know (or maybe you don't)...

Also, I read the VzW stuff on Engadget, it's more or less semi-technical puffery meant to get workers pumped up on what's going on, which is fine. However, there are more than a few errors in there. Nothing terrible, but I wouldn't take it as 100% truth and 100% accurate.
 
jav6454 said:
Lol, keep telling yourself that Verizon likes it open...
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Judging from how VZW is not locking down any Android devices and att is. VZW's new open policy is looking much better than att's.
Att locked the all it's android devices , so no sideloading apps and etc for att

:eek:
 
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