Going to order my first MBP next week, one thread here relate to /2010 MBP i5/i7 freeze/ make me have to stop and think again. People who recently (in July) received their MBP w i5/i7 still suffering that freeze issue? I am new to Mac, i do not want to experience this kind of issue. I understand every laptop is different and may have different issues. but the freeze issue seems universal at least for those early adopters. Again, could i feel confident to order my first MBP in my life now?
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Could i be confident to buy a MBP i7 now
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The freezes still exist but aren't common, my brother hasn't had any freezing issues with his July i7.
Don't worry and simply go for it.
I have been using mine for 4 weeks and I haven't had a problem yet. Not a crash or a single issue touch wood.
different strokes for different folks...
I say, if you can afford it, why not?
Intel is on the record admitting that the silicon in the Core iX chips isn't optimized yet and that they have "a lot of work to do." Truthfully I feel like the freezing issue is from bad silicon, Dell owners with Core iX chips have been having similar issues.
Besides, the next round of them (and presumably way better) should be announced soon. Apple was late to the game to adopt them, but new ones aren't that far away really. Unfortunately Apple probably won't do any updates for six more months though.
Besides, the next round of them (and presumably way better) should be announced soon. Apple was late to the game to adopt them, but new ones aren't that far away really. Unfortunately Apple probably won't do any updates for six more months though.
Considering the amount of traffic this forum gets, very few people have had this issue. I would not be worrying about it.
Agreed. i7 is either for (1) People who have money to burn, (2) can somehow justify up to 10% more performance probably <10% of the time, or (3) really really really need the extra VRAM. Oh I forgot (4) people who are still under the impression that the processor frequency most aptly defines the overall performance of the machine. Sorry about the rant, but most people don't know why they are buying the i7...its usually a psychological reason rather than a real necessity
Agreed. i7 is either for (1) People who have money to burn, (2) can somehow justify up to 10% more performance probably <10% of the time, or (3) really really really need the extra VRAM. Oh I forgot (4) people who are still under the impression that the processor frequency most aptly defines the overall performance of the machine. Sorry about the rant, but most people don't know why they are buying the i7...its usually a psychological reason rather than a real necessity
People usually only post about their problems...when everything is working fine there's no real reason to post. This freezing issue is a very uncommon issue that should not deter you from getting the computer that you want. The people on this forum and other forums represent a small portion of Mac owners/users and use these sites to get help with any problems they're are having.
I agree with others about the i7 not being worth it. The only reason to consider the i7 over the i5 is on the iMac. While they are both quad core processors, the i7 has the hyperthreading to 8 virtual cores while the i5 doesn't. In the Arrandale processors, the i5 is the best buy.
On a different note, it's a real shame that negativity on here has so much power over positivity. I've seen many posts about people not having any freezing problems (INCLUDING MYSELF), I have an i5 15" MBP and never had a single glitch, freeze or zing on it. Seems like when someone wants to try out a Mac they only pay attention to negative posts while ignoring the positive ones and that's really sad.
On a different note, it's a real shame that negativity on here has so much power over positivity. I've seen many posts about people not having any freezing problems (INCLUDING MYSELF), I have an i5 15" MBP and never had a single glitch, freeze or zing on it. Seems like when someone wants to try out a Mac they only pay attention to negative posts while ignoring the positive ones and that's really sad.
That's what I was saying. There is more negativity than positivity on this type of forum because it is meant for people to get help with their problems. I agree about the i5 being the better deal as well.
Anandtech recommends the i7 over i5. They give the actual performance per cost numbers which tell a different story than the ones you made up:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3659/apples-15inch-core-i5-macbook-pro-the-one-to-get/3
It's worth it if you have the money.
Sorry for the thread hijack
Thanks for reminding me about that Anandtech article MBHockey, they are usually very thorough. 2.4Ghz still the way to go for me since $300 upgrade amounts to ~18% increase in price for an UP TO 14% increase in speed ONLY in CPU-Bound apps. He says he can "feel" the difference but that is subjective of course.
Note that he also says SSDs are a much better upgrade. So again, if you have money to burn, sure get an i7 AND an SSD, otherwise a 2.4Ghz with an SSD will likely "feel" more responsive for the same price, and not just in CPU-bound apps.
Thanks for reminding me about that Anandtech article MBHockey, they are usually very thorough. 2.4Ghz still the way to go for me since $300 upgrade amounts to ~18% increase in price for an UP TO 14% increase in speed ONLY in CPU-Bound apps. He says he can "feel" the difference but that is subjective of course.
Note that he also says SSDs are a much better upgrade. So again, if you have money to burn, sure get an i7 AND an SSD, otherwise a 2.4Ghz with an SSD will likely "feel" more responsive for the same price, and not just in CPU-bound apps.
Sorry for the thread hijack
Thanks for reminding me about that Anandtech article MBHockey, they are usually very thorough. 2.4Ghz still the way to go for me since $300 upgrade amounts to ~18% increase in price for an UP TO 14% increase in speed ONLY in CPU-Bound apps. He says he can "feel" the difference but that is subjective of course.
Note that he also says SSDs are a much better upgrade. So again, if you have money to burn, sure get an i7 AND an SSD, otherwise a 2.4Ghz with an SSD will likely "feel" more responsive for the same price, and not just in CPU-bound apps.
Absolutely agree
I got my i5 a month ago and i have 0 problems! Working perfectly. I love it. You should just get one. if u have and problems at all... you just take it back and get a new one. not a big deal.
Because $200 is a lot of money when the benefits don't outweigh the cash spent. The Arrandale i7 is an easy way for Intel and the computing industry to squeeze out extra cash from the customers because as long as it's more expensive with a higher sku number it's got to be better right? The $200 could go towards a good SSD that would make an i5 MBP kick the crap out of an i7 model with a standard HDD. Or buy more ram or case or anything, $200 can go a long way towards something more useful.
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't 500gb SSD's in the $1300 range? To me, that is prohibitively expensive.