9to5mac.com says iPhone 2 will be out in May '08...

[benlee]

oh boy here we go with complaining. You got what you paid for no matter if there is a newer one out in a year or five years. People who complain are the people who just wantthe next best thing before everyone else. Technology advances andbecomes cheaper. Get over it. I am so sick of people that think technology should stand still until they are ready willing and able to buy new. These arethe same people that complain about lack of features but don't want them to come our until they personally are ready to buy.

On a side note: I don't think we'll see it until after jus after wwdc

 

[Rojo]

Darn. I was hoping for March, at the latest.

I know my boyfriend wanted to get it as a gift for me for X-Mas or my birthday (in January) -- but I've been hinting that I want to wait for version 2 to come out. March would be the longest I would want to wait, but May just seems too long. Then again, if I got an iPhone in January, and then the next model comes out a few months later, I'll be bummed.

 

[CD3660]

I just got a call that the caller ID was BLOCKED. I am hoping someone comes up with an app that will:

Check a incoming phone call.
If BLOCKED send to voicemail and not ring me at all.

I want to know who is calling me, the phone is there for my convenience, not theirs.

Couldn't have put it better myself. If people want to be secretive about who they are, then I don't want to talk to them! It's a bloody cheek!

 

[Luke Redpath]

Couldn't have put it better myself. If people want to be secretive about who they are, then I don't want to talk to them! It's a bloody cheek!

The irony is, if you don't want to be pestered by sales calls you are best to go ex-directory. If you go ex-directory, then your number will be automatically blocked (in the UK on a BT line anyway). It's not about being secretive.

 

[CD3660]

if I got an iPhone in January, and then the next model comes out a few months later, I'll be bummed.

Sounds rather painful, and possibly illegal too, or at least it used to be in the U.K.

 

[CD3660]

....if you don't want to be pestered by sales calls

I don't know anyone who does. I certainly don't!

I was really referring to individual who withhold their numbers. They need not bother calling me.

 

[question fear]

The iPhone is different from other regular tech products though - soon enough it will be a platform. You don't see Sony releasing a new Playstation every year - that would be a very, very bad idea.

I'm just wondering what this will mean for apps. People are going to be extremely pissed if all the new apps are only available with some new model iPhone, and their existing one is obsolete in terms of getting new stuff.

A big selling point for the iPhone was that the foundations are set for wonderful capabilities in software. This means jack if it's going to be updated every year! It makes it no different from any other phone in that regard.

One year is a logical amount of time for a phone to be updated. It's even a bit far behind in the world of high-end cells. And if it gets updated in May in the USA, it might not hit Europe until the end of summer/fall, which is right around where it should be for a 10-12 month release cycle.

I think you're letting your desire for the iPhone to be "special" interfere with the fact that the iPhone is not that dissimilar than many high-end phones. The best comparative platform is probably Nokia, in terms of price and because they utilize a proprietary operating system. Nokia updates their phones every 6-9 months. It is HIGHLY unusual for a Nokia design to not see an update after 7 or 8 months unless it's being discontinued. If nothing else they'll tweak the design and re-release it as a special Nxi or Exi edition...see N80i, E61i, etc.

And on most of these phones (most, mind you, not all) they run backwards compatible software. I would hazard a guess that Apple will aim for new software to run on the previous + current gen of iPhones when the release cycles kick in...but not more than one generation behind. That's Apple's general software compatibility strategy. And that would allow them to have a large user base for software without getting mired in legacy support. Once the iPhone platform is fully matured, it may extend farther back.

I strongly suggest you read up on Nokia and Symbian, like I said they are a decent analogue to Apple and will give you a better idea of why it's death in the market to NOT update every 9-12 months.

 

[Luke Redpath]

I don't know anyone who does. I certainly don't!

I was really referring to individual who withhold their numbers. They need not bother calling me.

You've misunderstood what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is, if I was to ring you my number would show up as "Blocked" because I am ex-directory, not because I've explicitly "withheld" my number. Many people have this on their lines, some may not even realise it, so all you're really doing is risking ignoring calls from people you know.

 

[72930]

I may get v2, but maybe I'll wait for v3 like I did for the iPod...I would definitely like 32GB, so it could be a fulltime iPod for me...

 

[CD3660]

....so all you're really doing is risking ignoring calls from people you know.

That's fine by me. They can leave a message on my voicemail if they wish.

Incidentally, I assume that when you talk of being ex-directory you are referring to a landline. I do understand that being ex-directory is a necessity in some rare cases, but it doesn't half bug me when I see 'number withheld' or 'number blocked'.

 

[csi24]

The only real important things I see Apple doing to the 2g iPhone is maybe a 16gb hard drvie, which may not even happen at all, and maybe 3G since a lot of people want it. Other than that and maybe GPS I don't see many things to be worrried about for the people like me that are getting ready to buy their's. And by adding 3G and GPS it would really put a big damper on the battery life. Apple would have to make a bigger battery, and as some of you have said, the inside of the iPhone is cramped as it is, they really don't have that much room to put stuff into the iPhone. I'm sticking with the 1g until the 3g or 4g iPhone comes out.

Apple will most likely keep the software the same same so everyone can run apps that are being run on the 2g, etc... iPhones on the 1g iPhones

 

[plumbingandtech]

And by adding 3G and GPS it would really put a big damper on the battery life.

This problem too shall pass.

Broadcom? just announced a new chip that does both and saves on power, I think the release is by next summer.

 

[csi24]

This problem too shall pass.

Broadcom? just announced a new chip that does both and saves on power, I think the release is by next summer.

Battery life with 3G is one reason why I haven't updated from my Cinguar 8125 which now has 2 newer models after it, both of which have 3G. But seeing as that chip you mentioned comes out in late summer and the 2g iPhone may come out in May then it wouldn't have any effect. But waiting for the 3g or 4g iPhone is really no big deal for me especially since Apple is releasing the SDK in February

 

[plumbingandtech]

Battery life with 3G is one reason why I haven't updated from my Cinguar 8125 which now has 2 newer models after it, both of which have 3G. But seeing as that chip you mentioned comes out in late summer and the 2g iPhone may come out in May then it wouldn't have any effect. But waiting for the 3g or 4g iPhone is really no big deal for me especially since Apple is releasing the SDK in February

I think the timeframes match though. Big Customers get stuff earlier.

 

[csi24]

I think the timeframes match though. Big Customers get stuff earlier.

I agree with that. But I have no problem knowing that my iPhone will still be a great piece of equipment that can be updated many, many times and still give you the same joy as when you first turn it on

 

[emotion]

I still think 3G in November 08. iPhone2 (ie. firmware 2.x and 16GB, same hardware) in March 08.

I'd love to be wrong though. I'd probably upgrade to a 3G (has to be HSDPA) iPhone despite O2's appauling 3G network coverage.

 

[nickspohn]

iPhone 2 features over the current iPhone:
3G
Bigger Space
Possibly GPS



oh, wow.

 

[kamiboy]

I hope Apple before coming with a new version at least fixes the bugs in the current iPhones (forgetting which podcasts you've listened to, Safari crashing randomly and specially often when listening to music while surfing etc. etc.). The iPhone has already had, what, 4 updates and problems like that are still persistent? Why?

Apple fans have always rubbed better stability into the face of those who use software from Apple's competitors. But you know, lately, what, with iPhones having so many bugs and so many of them still unresolved and with Leopard seemingly rushed out with too many issues that a new Apple OS should never have shipped with I am starting to feel like that Apple has loosened the leash a little too much.

I feel that the superiority of Apple software has somewhat declined since they switched to intel platforms and has not gotten better. If Apple wants to tout less buggy and more stable software then I feel they should at least put their money where their mouth is and tighten things up a bit, if not a lot.

 

[alFR]

Couldn't have put it better myself. If people want to be secretive about who they are, then I don't want to talk to them! It's a bloody cheek!

Unfortunately many big corporate telephone exchange systems don't send a caller ID if you're ringing out from one of their extensions. I know that because our work one does it and it's a pain in the backside: if a client has anonymous call barring on their number we can't get in touch with them. Allegedly there's no way of making it send an ID either.

 

[davidjearly]

I can accept this, but not when it's coming out so soon after launch! I consider the iPhone special in this regard - it's more expensive than any other contract phone (they're mostly free), people simply cannot afford to get the latest model.

They should at least offer some kind of trade-in discount, or something to please existing owners.

No. Technology moves on and the user can either do so to, or stay with their current product.

Your iPhone will still work correctly when version 2 is released. Besides, I don't think 7 months from the UK launch is too soon to release V.2.

David

 

[FatGolfer]

A bit more info

From engadget today http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/29/atandt-ceo-outs-3g-iphone-youll-have-it-next-year/

 

[aswitcher]

iPhone 2 features over the current iPhone:
3G
Bigger Space
Possibly GPS



oh, wow.

Better camera that does video

BT stereo spec and wireless headphones

Geek things like temperature and altimeter (GPS would make this a bit redundant but could automatically push the phone to aircraft mode if rapid pressure change) that can be found in plenty of watches

 

[MikeDTyke]

Battery life with 3G is one reason why I haven't updated from my Cinguar 8125 which now has 2 newer models after it, both of which have 3G. But seeing as that chip you mentioned comes out in late summer and the 2g iPhone may come out in May then it wouldn't have any effect. But waiting for the 3g or 4g iPhone is really no big deal for me especially since Apple is releasing the SDK in February

That chip is sampling now, currently with potential manufacturers, so i would say it'll have ramped up production well before May 08.

M.

 

[DeadlyB]

From engadget today http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/29/atandt-ceo-outs-3g-iphone-youll-have-it-next-year/

Yep... I was just about to post that: 3G next year per AT&T's CEO.

 

[kdarling]

A big selling point for the iPhone was that the foundations are set for wonderful capabilities in software. This means jack if it's going to be updated every year! It makes it no different from any other phone in that regard.

That's why you should also buy according to what the hardware is. If the choice was:

1) iPhone hardware as-is.

2) Another phone with 3G, GPS, expandable memory and battery, etc.

Then while (1) can have JUST its software updated, (2) can do that also PLUS it has the potential to do far more in software and hardware.

Phone (2) will have a longer useful life, because it can be made to act like (1) but go further.

Of course, there are a lot of people here who update phones once or more a year. Probably a very bad idea to listen to them for advice on a longterm purchase