A Breakdown of Tuesday's Possible iPhone Releases

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To be very honest, I'm gonna be TOTALLY dissapointed with Apple if they don't release the iPhone 5. I've waiting to buy a new phone since June. No iPhone 5 = Samsung Galaxy S2 or Nexus Prime for me. Don't care about how many thumbs down you gonna give me.

I'm thinking the same thing, too. There's a reason I didn't get the 4: I didn't really like the flat back in the design.

But Arn, our bet is still on. I'm still thinking that Apple this year tightened down all their security (including sending people to raid other people's houses), and has made sure that no leaks ever pass by.

I'm still sticking to my theory, that if there was no iPhone 5, then Apple would have used legit news sources like The Loop and AllthingsD to tame down these wild expectations about the legendary iPhone 5. I still see all of this as deliberate spread of information/rumors on Apple's part to keep the iPhone 5 this year's biggest, and best surprise.

To join in but not get flamed, I was in line for the very first iPhone and have loved them all since but for personal reasons (as in I understand it's a nothing feature for others) I want a bigger screen. Don't think android comes close to the iPhone so was still a no brainer

 

[DeathChill]

Apple never comments on rumors, because it would be a dangerous precedent for them to set. What happens if this one time they say no, the iPhone 5 is not real? Then every time they don't deny a rumor, it somehow gains credibility.

No, but Apple dispels rumours through blogs such as Daring Fireball, AllThingsD and The Loop. Unofficially, of course, but they give information they wish to share to these blogs who report these scoops. They did it to lower expectations for WWDC (no new iPhone hardware).

EDIT: So basically, I figure that Apple would get one of these blogs to report that there is no chance of an iPhone 5 so that expectations are lowered BEFORE the event. This would temper expectations so that it isn't considered a letdown and the iPhone 4S is focused on because all of the bitching has already been done, rather then the iPhone 5 that never was. However, this is nowhere close to any sort of evidence, it's just interesting.

 

[CrazyRussian540]

So as of 30 minutes ago, I do not care if its a 4S or a 5 that comes out on Tuesday (I was set on 100% if the 5 comes out, and probably not if its a 4S), I'm getting it regardless (5 if both come out). After over 3 years of faithful service, my 3G is permanently out of commission. Me being the idiot that I am, slammed it down on a table out of anger, and shattered the screen. It has survived countless falls, but it could not survive drunken rage.

Luckily for me though the touchscreen still works, and after all this time (iPhone owner since Feb 2008), I have managed to memorize where the "answer call" slider is, so at least I have that much.

And if Tuesday proves to be a total disappointment, worst case scenario, I can get a new screen for $30ish, and do a transplant.

 

[AIP5]

Apple never comments on rumors, because it would be a dangerous precedent for them to set. What happens if this one time they say no, the iPhone 5 is not real? Then every time they don't deny a rumor, it somehow gains credibility.

Well, I think what we mean is that Apple itself doesn't officially say anything (like a press release from Apple). Instead, Apple says something to legit news sites such as The Loop or AllthingsD... sites that have a proven track record for having their rumors come true because Apple basically tells them that particular rumor.
It's kind of like how rumors of a September 7th event were shot down within a day, and how almost all the rumors pointed to no new iPhone in WWDC 2011. Also, the Oct 4th event date was first reported by AllthingsD before Apple sent out the invitations, indicating yet again that AllthingsD gets its "rumors" or "reports" directly from Apple.

So, what we mean is that Apple would have used a similar tactic in managing high iPhone 5 expectations going into their announcement. The last thing they want is a PR nightmare where everyone walks away disappointed at only a 4S. They would have "leaked" info that shows that no iPhone 5 is being unveiled, so no one walks in with the expectation of the iPhone 5.

Edit: DeathChill (what a name!) beat me to the response; sorry if this is a redundant post.

 

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To be very honest, I'm gonna be TOTALLY dissapointed with Apple if they don't release the iPhone 5. I've waiting to buy a new phone since June. No iPhone 5 = Samsung Galaxy S2 or Nexus Prime for me. Don't care about how many thumbs down you gonna give me.

I'm thinking the same thing, too. There's a reason I didn't get the 4: I didn't really like the flat back in the design.

But Arn, our bet is still on. I'm still thinking that Apple this year tightened down all their security (including sending people to raid other people's houses), and has made sure that no leaks ever pass by.

I'm still sticking to my theory, that if there was no iPhone 5, then Apple would have used legit news sources like The Loop and AllthingsD to tame down these wild expectations about the legendary iPhone 5. I still see all of this as deliberate spread of information/rumors on Apple's part to keep the iPhone 5 this year's biggest, and best surprise.

To join in but not get flamed, I was in line for the very first iPhone and have loved them all since but for personal reasons (as in I understand it's a nothing feature for others) I want a bigger screen. Don't think android comes close to the iPhone so was still a no brainer

Ok sorry for that half a message, the iPhone layout for the forum led to accidental post without finishing. Basically I am considering keeping my 3GS going till nokia bring out a windows phone, it will be a contender as nokia have a good history of producing a very well put together phone.

 

[strausd]

Its a place holder in their logistics and inventory system. Friend of mine works for a large international carrier in managerial level and has no idea what's coming. They only know it's the new iPhone but that's the far as it goes. These are the same guys who are responsible for day to day operations so that explains why you have something like iPhone 5 in the inventory lists as a placeholder. You have to be a top executive have real knowledge of future iPhones and those guys have nothing to do with these lists.

If you have to be a top executive, how come the CEO of China's largest carrier used the term iPhone 5?

 

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I can't handle this anymore.

 

[itsmemuffins]

8gb iPhone 4 to have the same TFT LCD as in the current iPod Touch?

 

[wackymacky]

I'm thinking the same thing, too. There's a reason I didn't get the 4: I didn't really like the flat back in the design.

But Arn, our bet is still on. I'm still thinking that Apple this year tightened down all their security (including sending people to raid other people's houses), and has made sure that no leaks ever pass by.

I'm still sticking to my theory, that if there was no iPhone 5, then Apple would have used legit news sources like The Loop and AllthingsD to tame down these wild expectations about the legendary iPhone 5. I still see all of this as deliberate spread of information/rumors on Apple's part to keep the iPhone 5 this year's biggest, and best surprise.

Hope springs eternal

To me is seems a little odd to create a sh**ty iP4 with 8GB storage, half of the lower current end model.Why not just drop the 32GB from the iphone4? It's a bit insulting really, and then to use the difference between the sh**ty N90A to built up the N94.

They were paying $27.00 for the 16GB Samsung NAND 16GB memory 1 1/2 years ago. Surely the price has come down for this.

 

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Best case scenario is one of you are right and the rest of you are wrong now that's a scary thought...

 

[AIP5]

If you have to be a top executive, how come the CEO of China's largest carrier used the term iPhone 5?

That is very true, indeed.

Okay, Arn, what about the rumors that Apple manufacturers are having a hard time working on the iPhone 5, and that they're producing many faulty units (here and here)?

And Wintek's "delayed bubble" in the screen (here)? Why would you have a screen problem now, if you're using the same screen?

These rumors show some proof of iPhone 5 production.

 

[Cinch]

I was wrong

A year ago, I said that a 3.5" screen was the perfect size for smartphones. I think a lot of apps out there can definitely use a 4.0" screen and reading many mobile websites would be so muh better on one. I was wrong, and Retina Display doesn't help much. We need 4.0" screen.

 

[iFrodo]

iPhone 5 (N??)

It seems that you need a little help here, the correct spelling is:

iPhone 5 (N93)

Source: XCode 4.2 beta 1 from Apple N93/AVCaptureSession.plist in iPhone Simulator 5.0 MediaToolbox framework folder, of course N94 is also present on this beta.

 

[DeathChill]

It seems that you need a little help here, the correct spelling is:

iPhone 5 (N93)

Source: XCode 4.2 beta 1 from Apple N93/AVCaptureSession.plist in iPhone Simulator 5.0 MediaToolbox framework folder, of course N94 is also present on this beta.

I guess this could make sense if the iPhone 5 was being developed before the 4S.

 

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Hope springs eternal

To me is seems a little odd to create a sh**ty iP4 with 8GB storage, half of the lower current end model.Why not just drop the 32GB from the iphone4? It's a bit insulting really, and then to use the difference between the sh**ty N90A to built up the N94.

They were paying $27.00 for the 16GB Samsung NAND 16GB memory 1 1/2 years ago. Surely the price has come down for this.

I think the 8GB iPhone 4 is for people like me, who need a new phone to replace a 3GS, but expected a redesigned iPhone 5. This way we can replace our 3GS without spending too much money on a iPhone-design we don't want.

 

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The 1 in the green icon could refer to 1 phone for the world.. The World phone.

 

[admanimal]

So, what we mean is that Apple would have used a similar tactic in managing high iPhone 5 expectations going into their announcement. The last thing they want is a PR nightmare where everyone walks away disappointed at only a 4S. They would have "leaked" info that shows that no iPhone 5 is being unveiled, so no one walks in with the expectation of the iPhone 5.

OK. You realize that both Gruber and John Paczkowski (ATD) have said they don't think it's likely that a new form factor iPhone is coming, right?

 

[iFrodo]

I guess this could make sense if the iPhone 5 was being developed before the 4S.

Which is probably the case, a totally new design with new screen size (supposed bigger iPhone 5) requires a lot more engineering work than just upgrading an existing design and form factor (iPhone 4S), so the project as certainly started before for an hypothetic bigger, new design, iPhone 5 than for the iPhone 4S which keep the same design and form factor as the iPhone 4.

 

[AIP5]

OK. You realize that both Gruber and John Paczkowski (ATD) have said they don't think it's likely that a new form factor iPhone is coming, right?

Yes, Gruber has voiced his opinion (opinion being the keyword here), and his thinking that a teardrop design would be uncomfortable to hold on to. Paczkowski... he didn't say anything about there being no iPhone 5. His last iPhone related post was Sept 27th, about the media invites, and he states that nothing is confirmed except that the next iPhone will most likely have A5 and global chip.

Either way, what I mean is that there hasn't been an aggressive response from The Loop or AllthingsD about no iPhone 5. Remember when that annoying (and unfortunately right) Kara Swisher lady kept reiterating that we won't see the next iPhone until October? Well, that's what I mean by Apple aggressively knocking down false rumors and managing expectations.

If AllthingsD or The Loop post an article/statement about "Our sources [which is Apple] say new iPhone will be 4S," then it is 99% official that all we are getting is 4S.

 

[iFrodo]

OK. You realize that both Gruber and John Paczkowski (ATD) have said they don't think it's likely that a new form factor iPhone is coming, right?

Gruber never said that, he said only "I don't know", that's what is post mean. He said that he doesn't believe in a tear drop design "don't count on it", mainly because he doesn't like the idea. But at the same time he said "ask again later" to wether there would be two new iPhone instead of just one.

 

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[Millionaire2K]

Anyone think apple is just putting the internals of the new 5 inside the 4 just to hide it?

Is this possible? They are a huge rich company.

After SJ got all worked up over us seeing the 4 in advance "Stop me if you've seen this" maybe they decided to not use the 5 internals in the 5 body till after it’s announced.

When testing the phone (5) at apple they can use the 5 body. Any when the phone goes out of apple for testing they use the 4 body.
They can just start designing the internals to be very much alike. Turn the iPhone into a true PC. The internals are for the most part alike. The outside gets new dressings. This could also drive down cost in the future.


Just wondering. Any thoughts?

 

[admanimal]

The reality of these situations is that whatever product(s) appear to be most likely right before the event pretty much always end up being the actual released products. People concoct all of these elaborate schemes that Apple could be using to hide some big surprise, but they never end up being correct.

 

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Only one phone in the world can generate this much hype.

 

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no larger screen please. i don't understand this 'desire' for larger screen, what for? it's a phone, should fit in the pocket. sometimes i really miss old phones for their size, weight and battery life. if you want bigger screen get iPad or any other tablet on the market but for phones i really don't get it.

do you gents want to wear a handbags for your phones????