A Breakdown of Tuesday's Possible iPhone Releases

[peterjames.org]

Low-end iPhone sales?

Has there ever been a breakdown or trend of the low-end iPhone sales from official release/downgrade to EOL?

iPhone 3G 8GB
iPhone 3GS 8GB

And if so, any projections for iPhone 4 8GB?

Has there been any talk of bumping capacities to 32 and 64GB for the high-end? (4S or 5) And make the low-end 16GB? Or for the iPod touch to 32, 64, 128...now that the iPod classic's demise is likely? Even with iCloud, the movies are still stores locally...

 

[Zunjine]

For me the redesign issue is not important. I'm in the camp that believes the current design is the best piece of industrial design I've ever owned. It's utterly beautiful and I will certainly not complain if it doesn't change.

I'm just a bit confused at why they would use the name 4S. With the 3GS it was clearly to avoid confusion between the iPhone 3G (meaning third generation network) and the Third Generation iPhone which some might have called the iPhone 3G in reference to it being the third iteration. So 3GS made sense. But no one is going to confuse the fourth Gen for the fifth Gen iPhone. Call one four and one five and have done with it! Very simple and no chance of a mix up.

4S leaves a big question mark over the name of the next unit. It would presumably be called iPhone 5 but then it will be the sixth generation machine. Does that make any sense to anyone here? Why would you set it up so your sixth generation machine was called 5?!

Can anyone think of a logical explanation for this?

 

[Millionaire2K]

For me the redesign issue is not important. I'm in the camp that believes the current design is the best piece of industrial design I've ever owned. It's utterly beautiful and I will certainly not complain if it doesn't change.

I'm just a bit confused at why they would use the name 4S. With the 3GS it was clearly to avoid confusion between the iPhone 3G (meaning third generation network) and the Third Generation iPhone which some might have called the iPhone 3G in reference to it being the third iteration. So 3GS made sense. But no one is going to confuse the fourth Gen for the fifth Gen iPhone. Call one four and one five and have done with it! Very simple and no chance of a mix up.

4S leaves a big question mark over the name of the next unit. It would presumably be called iPhone 5 but then it will be the sixth generation machine. Does that make any sense to anyone here? Why would you set it up so your sixth generation machine was called 5?!

Can anyone think of a logical explanation for this?

I say why call it "4" "5" or "6" at all. We don't call the latest mac the mac book air 5. Or the ipods, we don't say "I want that new ipod Touch 3".

Apple should just drop the number and just call it "iPhone"

So people would see the new phone and say "I must have that new iPhone, it looks amazing"

Instead of saying "I want that new iPhone 4s 5G 3m R2 PO thing, it looks amazing. What number is that one you have? Oh it 4s? How much is the 4r? or the 5s?"

 

[Rozac155]

I still bet on that there WILL be iPhone 5 presented on Tuesday because Apple can leak whatever they want... So 4S and N90A can just be a very big distraction for the big surprise..
On the other side the picture for the presentation itself is a big clue.. (day, place, time) and im afraid that the Phone icon shows 1 as a clue that there is 1 iPhone presented.... Im just saying that maybe... But still i really think that there will be all 3 iPhones presented. maybe iPhone 5 will be only talked about as feature-wise.

 

[hexx]

i believe that we will see 4S, just updated cpu, ram and support for all networks. i don't think that apple 'needs' to release a new phone.

 

[admanimal]

I still bet on that there WILL be iPhone 5 presented on Tuesday because Apple can leak whatever they want... So 4S and N90A can just be a very big distraction for the big surprise..

This theory pops up before every single major product release. That is, "All of this real evidence for Product A having features B and C is just to hide the fact that Apple is going to surprise us with Product X having features Y and Z."

There is never a surprise.

 

[oldmacs]

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If it is just an iPhone 4s with no case redesign, why have they waited this long to release it? It took them a year between the 3GS and the IP4, which was a redesign, why should it take 18 months or so to spec bump one?

 

[bushido]

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meh how "innovating" .... 8MP is so 2 years ago. after 1,5 years all they do is basically catching up, nothing new te competition already does. no wonder apple tries to sue them off the market

guess we'll just have to wait til tuesday but otherwise i'll have to look somewhere else and stick to my iPad 2 for my iOS needs

 

[o0jelly0o]

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I have a feeling you guys are going to be so surprised on Tuesday. Just my opinion.

 

[hokka]

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If it is just an iPhone 4s with no case redesign, why have they waited this long to release it? It took them a year between the 3GS and the IP4, which was a redesign, why should it take 18 months or so to spec bump one?

Easy, common sense

1]. To give Verizon (and white iPhone 4) customers some breathing space;
2]. Shorten the next release (June/July announcement again in 2012) as per iPad -> iPad 2 to up the competition once LTE is deployed in more countries / better battery tech / to shrink it further / new form factor... etc.

 

[o0jelly0o]

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no larger screen please. i don't understand this 'desire' for larger screen, what for? it's a phone, should fit in the pocket. sometimes i really miss old phones for their size, weight and battery life. if you want bigger screen get iPad or any other tablet on the market but for phones i really don't get it.

do you gents want to wear a handbags for your phones????

It's sad when people don't understand that the bezel can be taken up by more screen size and thus, you have a larger screen with the exact same sized phone.

 

[hokka]

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meh how "innovating" .... 8MP is so 2 years ago. after 1,5 years all they do is basically catching up, nothing new te competition already does. no wonder apple tries to sue them off the market

guess we'll just have to wait til tuesday but otherwise i'll have to look somewhere else and stick to my iPad 2 for my iOS needs

1]. You are wrong
2]. Apple is defending their designs since Samsung etc. are trying to flood the market with junk - with every screen size known to man (including all the unknown ones), not the other way around
3]. It's a pet hate but you Germans need to use '1.5' instead of '1,5' to represent decimal places, it's more international & real maths

 

[o0jelly0o]

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For me the redesign issue is not important. I'm in the camp that believes the current design is the best piece of industrial design I've ever owned. It's utterly beautiful and I will certainly not complain if it doesn't change.

I'm just a bit confused at why they would use the name 4S. With the 3GS it was clearly to avoid confusion between the iPhone 3G (meaning third generation network) and the Third Generation iPhone which some might have called the iPhone 3G in reference to it being the third iteration. So 3GS made sense. But no one is going to confuse the fourth Gen for the fifth Gen iPhone. Call one four and one five and have done with it! Very simple and no chance of a mix up.

4S leaves a big question mark over the name of the next unit. It would presumably be called iPhone 5 but then it will be the sixth generation machine. Does that make any sense to anyone here? Why would you set it up so your sixth generation machine was called 5?!

Can anyone think of a logical explanation for this?

I say why call it "4" "5" or "6" at all. We don't call the latest mac the mac book air 5. Or the ipods, we don't say "I want that new ipod Touch 3".

Apple should just drop the number and just call it "iPhone"

So people would see the new phone and say "I must have that new iPhone, it looks amazing"

Instead of saying "I want that new iPhone 4s 5G 3m R2 PO thing, it looks amazing. What number is that one you have? Oh it 4s? How much is the 4r? or the 5s?"

No, the biggest selling products need numbers attached to them so consumers can better differentiate, and are more likely to go out and buy the new one. It's simply marketing. Which is a large reason why I think there will be a '5' no matter what form factor it comes in. Simply due to marketing, people want a '5' not a 4S, it's really as simple as that.

 

[tmarks11]

Exactly. I had the same suspicion. Apple really went over the top by raiding the guy's house... if it was indeed a redesigned iPhone, why have no pictures shown up?

Because the apple security guards pulled out a huge wad of cash and a NDA as soon as they were safely inside the guy's house, out of sight of the SFPD officers.

The guy was told take the cash and give us the phone, no questions asked, or we will sue the pants off you and tie you up in court for the next year.

The guy gave them the phone, and signed the NDA. Which is why he said things like"Apple? I had no idea...", yet is not sueing them for invading his home.

All speculation, of course.

Apparently the gizmodo squad was off duty that day, so missed out on buying a new phone....

 

[Pegamush]

from the point of view of apple, the iphone 4 is still a best selling (though people are waiting to see the next phones coming out, but still), so why take so much efforts to redesign a new form factor? they will sell anyway tons (millions) of them the same way they sold the 3gs..
also i wonder how many people who now are calling the iphone 4s a fail, will truly buy another phone instead..

 

[hokka]

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It's sad when people don't understand that the bezel can be taken up by more screen size and thus, you have a larger screen with the exact same sized phone.

Larger screen = more battery drain, thus the whole form factor need to be bigger to counter balance with larger batteries, it's not just about the bezel. Unless Apple want to make the new iPhone thicker there's no other way to have a bigger screen, same size as 4 and still last as long... and thinner as per Apple's typical marketing tag line.

I wish there's more common sense in this place.

 

[o0jelly0o]

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If it is just an iPhone 4s with no case redesign, why have they waited this long to release it? It took them a year between the 3GS and the IP4, which was a redesign, why should it take 18 months or so to spec bump one?

Easy, common sense

1]. To give Verizon (and white iPhone 4) customers some breathing space;
2]. Shorten the next release (June/July announcement again in 2012) as per iPad -> iPad 2 to up the competition once LTE is deployed in more countries / better battery tech / to shrink it further / new form factor... etc.

Nah they won't change the release schedule again, I think it will basically be, WWDC will announce new iOS with betas leading up to fall release from now on.

 

[hokka]

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Nah they won't change the release schedule again, I think it will basically be, WWDC will announce new iOS with betas leading up to fall release from now on.

Nice distraction for the sake of argument? That's not the important point, but you agree that white iPhone and Verizon is the reason for delay, right??

As to when the next-next iphone will be released? Your guess is as good as mine.

 

[o0jelly0o]

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It's sad when people don't understand that the bezel can be taken up by more screen size and thus, you have a larger screen with the exact same sized phone.

Larger screen = more battery drain, thus the whole form factor need to be bigger to counter balance with larger batteries, it's not just about the bezel. Unless Apple want to make the new iPhone thicker there's no other way to have a bigger screen, same size as 4 and still last as long... and thinner as per Apple's typical marketing tag line.

I wish there's more common sense in this place.

Batteries aren't getting bigger, they are getting smaller, and holding a longer charge, this is what's known as advances in technology. Ergo, same size, bigger screen, better battery.

 

[adildacoolset]

Maybe it'll be one new phone, which will be the iPhone 5. They might modify the 4 a bit, and reduce the price. Because I doubt that a slight modification to an existing phone is a brand new phone

 

[hokka]

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Batteries aren't getting bigger, they are getting smaller, and holding a longer charge, this is what's known as advances in technology. Ergo, same size, bigger screen, better battery.

mmm, nope, per square inch, the tech have been the same for years, there's a physical limit as to how much 'battery' to cramp into a physical size, I wish I have more time to explain but it's approach my bed time so I'll leave the study to you or someone else can tell you where to look. Don't just make up BS.

 

[o0jelly0o]

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Nah they won't change the release schedule again, I think it will basically be, WWDC will announce new iOS with betas leading up to fall release from now on.

Nice distraction for the sake of argument? That's not the important point, but you agree that white iPhone and Verizon is the reason for delay, right??

As to when the next-next iphone will be released? Your guess is as good as mine.

Nah I have no comment on anything else you said haha, I just think it makes sense to keep this schedule they adopted this year, I mean leads up to a new iPhone just before holiday shopping season. Probably where more of the competition releases their new phones? I think if you're trying to kill the competition, or just keep up, it's important to have the newest tech along side theirs during the shopping season. Then again I might have no idea what I'm talking about haha.

 

[Pez555]

Apple know that if no redesign is shown on Tuesday, that there will be a lot of unhappy fans. Apple arent dumb.

iPhone 5 is happening.

 

[Frankied22]

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Redesigned iPhone 5 on Tuesday is my gut feeling.

What ever happened with that news post awhile back that contained a picture of a guy at a restaurant using an iPhone that looked redesigned? It showed him sitting at a table using the phone and the back looked aluminum and thinner....

 

[vvebsta]

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I can't believe it's already going to be the 5th generation. It seems such a short time ago the first one was release. 5 gens blows my mind!