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I wonder what resolution A Charlie Brown Xmas will be streamed at? The original film was not filmed using 1080p or 4K cameras.
The original was filmed with... 35mm film. If somebody has paid (and gotten the rights) for a good transfer (assuming they have a 35mm copy in good shape), they could easily put it out in 4K. Though that might show imperfections that the original artists never imagined would be seen - with NTSC over-the-air analog broadcasts in 1965.

Actually, Wikipedia says in 2009, “it was released in high definition Blu-ray Disc from Warner in remastered Dolby 5.1 surround sound.” And the previous two from Apple (Great Pumpkin and the Thanksgiving one) are listed as 4K and Dolby Vision. So, I suspect this one will follow that pattern.
 
After over 15 years of not seeing Charlie Brown during Christmas because I've been a cord-cutter for that long, I can finally watch this traditional special like I did when I was growing up. Yeah, I guess I could have bought the DVD, but I never did.
 
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The original was filmed with... 35mm film. If somebody has paid (and gotten the rights) for a good transfer (assuming they have a 35mm copy in good shape), they could easily put it out in 4K. Though that might show imperfections that the original artists never imagined would be seen - with NTSC over-the-air analog broadcasts in 1965.

Actually, Wikipedia says in 2009, “it was released in high definition Blu-ray Disc from Warner in remastered Dolby 5.1 surround sound.” And the previous two from Apple (Great Pumpkin and the Thanksgiving one) are listed as 4K and Dolby Vision. So, I suspect this one will follow that pattern.
Yes, the Great Pumpkin was outstanding. It was almost like they totally reanimated it or something, which I know they didn't, but the transfer and digital clean-up was just outstanding.
 
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I’m a normal suburban housewife and the amount of contempt (in the form of dismissive language) shown on this forum for anything that might remotely interest women in general and teen girls or housewives in particular is starting to get old. There’s room enough for all of us at the table. I wish people would stop criticizing Apple for setting a place for us.
Agreed. I think the contempt that you observe is misogyny, pure and simple. I'm glad you called it out.
 
You can’t have a post about celebrities here without pessimistic whiners putting their useless input on why “cElEBs sUcK!”
It depends on the nature of the celebrity. Those cookie pictures have Mariah Carey as the name in their package for Christ’s sakes.

Bring on the other celebs the caliber of Ewan McGregor, Sting, Tom Hanks, Jason Sudeikis, Brendan Hunt, Steve Carrel, Jennifer Aniston, Reese Witherspoon, Mark Duplass, Chris Evans, etc etc etc... and I could guarantee that the gut reactions will be at the most a fraction of what we have here.
 
Agreed. I think the contempt that you observe is misogyny, pure and simple. I'm glad you called it out.
I think there’s a huge difference between hating a whole gender (or in practical terms, half of the population which I think is an impossible feat) and even wishing harm to finding one celebrity, well, irritating.
I find Mariah Carey and her self-named cookies annoying, I don’t find Jennifer Aniston nor Reese Whiterspoon annoying. What does that make me?

Granted, there’s the choice of not watching it and give it the skip, too much loud vocal opinions regarding taste, etc... it’s human nature to want to scream the discontent I think, there’s also the “this show is for the house or basement dwellers losers” (which I find amusing because most ones today are a house dweller by force).

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Apple has terrible taste in music. I mean, haven't they noticed the Mariah Carey Christmas song memes.
At least it wasn't pushed to iTunes ;)
Taste in music is pretty subjective, of course. Despite whatever memes are out there (I've not seen them myself), Mariah Carey's Christmas music chops are hard to deny. She has one of the best selling Christmas albums of all time and she co-wrote and recorded one of the most iconic non-traditional Christmas songs of all time.

Her music in general may not be as relevant today as it was through the 90s and into the 00s. But regardless of how we might measure it, she'd be on some pretty short lists of the most successful solo artists ever.
 
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Taste in music is pretty subjective, of course. Despite whatever memes are out there (I've not seen them myself), Mariah Carey's Christmas music chops are hard to deny. She has one of the best selling Christmas albums of all time and she co-wrote and recorded one of the most iconic non-traditional Christmas songs of all time.

Her music in general may not be as relevant today as it was through the 90s and into the 00s. But regardless of how we might measure it, she'd be on some pretty short lists of the most successful solo artists ever.
Are you apart of the Mariah Carey fan club? GTFOH with that "Ackchyuallyyyyy taste in music is subjective" nonsense. My statement was in jest, don't get offended.
And since you spent so much energy intellectualizing a response to a quip about a musician, I'll perform that simple Google search for you...
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I’m a normal suburban housewife and the amount of contempt (in the form of dismissive language) shown on this forum for anything that might remotely interest women in general and teen girls or housewives in particular is starting to get old. There’s room enough for all of us at the table. I wish people would stop criticizing Apple for setting a place for us.
Yeah, and even moreso given we're talking about a streaming service - not 1960s broadcast television. It's not as if you being able to watch a show you like is blocking someone else from seeing a different show they like at the same time...
 
I’m a normal suburban housewife and the amount of contempt (in the form of dismissive language) shown on this forum for anything that might remotely interest women in general and teen girls or housewives in particular is starting to get old. There’s room enough for all of us at the table. I wish people would stop criticizing Apple for setting a place for us.
What your doing is demonizing everyone here who criticized your favorite actress.

Some celebrities are just terrible human beings. It doesn’t matter if they are a male or female,or what they appeal to. People will judge others on character, not just entertainment value - as you seem to do.

Mariah, she’s fine. Cookies look good. Others don’t like her because of the incredibly racist things her husband has said.

Just because someone doesn’t like Mariah, for their own reason, doesn’t make them anti-housewife/woman or whatever message you’re attempting to deliver.
 


Four new programs have today started streaming on Apple TV+, including Apple's two seasonal offerings: "A Charlie Brown Christmas" and "Mariah Carey's Magical Christmas Special."

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A Charlie Brown Christmas is the latest Peanuts special to join Apple TV+, following in the footsteps of "Snoopy in Space," "Charlie Brown Thanksgiving," and "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown."

As well as being streamed on Apple TV+, A Charlie Brown Christmas will be available for free in the Apple TV app from December 11 to December 13. It will also air on broadcast TV after public protestations, with Apple planning to provide it ad-free on PBS and PBS Kids on December 13.

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Mariah Carey's Magical Christmas Special features a host of celebrity guests, including Tiffany Haddish, Billy Eichner, Ariana Grande, Jennifer Hudson, Snoop Dogg, Jermaine Dupri, Misty Copeland, and Mykal-Michelle Harris. It presents a range of musical performances, dancing, and animation, driven by a "universally heartwarming story."

The one-off special contains a new soundtrack single titled "Oh Santa!" which has simultaneously arrived on Apple Music as an exclusive, before expanding to other music streaming platforms on December 11.

Apple also shared a new ad for Apple TV+ today, highlighting several original series available on the platform, such as "Ted Lasso," "For All Mankind," "The Morning Show," "Servant," and "Defending Jacob," as well as the Tom Hanks movie "Greyhound."


In addition to the two seasonal programs, "Earth at Night in Color" and "Stillwater" are also now available.

Article Link: 'A Charlie Brown Christmas' and 'Mariah Carey's Magical Christmas Special' Now Streaming on Apple TV+


Run in the oposite way.
 
What your doing is demonizing everyone here who criticized your favorite actress.

Some celebrities are just terrible human beings. It doesn’t matter if they are a male or female,or what they appeal to. People will judge others on character, not just entertainment value - as you seem to do.

Mariah, she’s fine. Cookies look good. Others don’t like her because of the incredibly racist things her husband has said.

Just because someone doesn’t like Mariah, for their own reason, doesn’t make them anti-housewife/woman or whatever message you’re attempting to deliver.
No actually I don’t know Mariah at all as a person and as an entertainer I like some of her music but haven’t really followed her work. So net effect is I don’t give a figgy pudding about HER.

I am speaking toward a wider problem I have seen in the years I’ve been an active participant on the forum.

It is the tendency of some people, even some whom I deeply respect on all other aspects of their conduct, to speak in the most demeaning and dismissive terms of anything that is apparently oriented to appeal to the perceived tastes of women.

For example, in discussing various filters or Memoji or things of that nature, I see many comments dismiss those things as being “for a bunch of teen girls.” And that’s me putting it nicely.

I know people don’t want their speech policed by social justice warriors but as the mother and aunt to teen girls who pride themselves on taking themselves seriously as hardworking contributors to society, I am concerned it can be very demeaning to come here, see such comments tossed about so casually. What does such a carelessly tossed out descriptor tell them about how they can be expected to be regarded in the larger world beyond the protection of their parents and teachers? What does that say about our world?

As a housewife and mother, who actually does not give a toss about Oprah, I can say that it does really hurt to see comments that deride shows on the basis of them appealing to a “bunch of housewives.”

What comments like that really seem to say is that the speaker’s perspectives and wants are more important than mine. It dismisses me along with my demographic as not worth consideration.

There are ways of saying something is not to one’s taste without being dismissive of an entire demographic of people.

And for what it’s worth, I have stood up for men and their points of view in many discussions over many years here. I’m not on some “sjw crusade”.

I am human and I do slip up and I’m sure at times even I will make the very same mistakes I am calling out now. So I’m not “demonizing” anyone because I’d have to take the horns and pitchfork first myself, lest I be a hypocrite. I’m just pointing out something that has reared itself again in the last couple of days and it’s such an easy thing to change. I am just asking people to think about how we dismiss each other out of hand.

I think you’ve done very well to do the same. I know you don’t want to feel dismissed as a misogynist. However that is a misunderstanding on your part, as we aren’t dismissing every person on here who doesn’t like Mariah Carey as a misogynist. At least I am not trying to, and if it came across as that way I do apologize as that is not my intent.

I am talking about a specific way of speaking dismissively about anything perceived as oriented toward women or girls. It is really demeaning and it hurts to be on the receiving end of it. That’s all.
 
I tried to watch her special last night, but even though I am a big fan ATv, I found it lame, certainly not for adults. Has nothing to do attitudes towards woman or Mariah. I thoroughly enjoyed the girl in Little Voices, play her music all the time.
 
No actually I don’t know Mariah at all as a person and as an entertainer I like some of her music but haven’t really followed her work. So net effect is I don’t give a figgy pudding about HER.

I am speaking toward a wider problem I have seen in the years I’ve been an active participant on the forum.

It is the tendency of some people, even some whom I deeply respect on all other aspects of their conduct, to speak in the most demeaning and dismissive terms of anything that is apparently oriented to appeal to the perceived tastes of women.

For example, in discussing various filters or Memoji or things of that nature, I see many comments dismiss those things as being “for a bunch of teen girls.” And that’s me putting it nicely.

Is it so bad to complain about a feature aimed at adolescent women? Most of us here a techies, we don’t care for that. I don’t think that’s offensive. It’s an opinion. I think they are silly. Maybe others shouldn’t refer to what sex they think they are aimed at

I know people don’t want their speech policed by social justice warriors but as the mother and aunt to teen girls who pride themselves on taking themselves seriously as hardworking contributors to society, I am concerned it can be very demeaning to come here, see such comments tossed about so casually. What does such a carelessly tossed out descriptor tell them about how they can be expected to be regarded in the larger world beyond the protection of their parents and teachers? What does that say about our world?
So because some people here view or express that some features as petty, or a particular show topic stupid...that is demeaning to women whom “take themselves seriously as hardworking in contributors in society”?



As a housewife and mother, who actually does not give a toss about Oprah, I can say that it does really hurt to see comments that deride shows on the basis of them appealing to a “bunch of housewives.

You think “housewife” is offensive? You can thank Bravo and Real Housewives for ruining that. Really lukewarm comment.

It’s a show for aimed at woman. It would be no different then saying “just a bunch of bros”

There are ways of saying something is not to one’s taste without being dismissive of an entire demographic of people.

And for what it’s worth, I have stood up for men and their points of view in many discussions over many years here. I’m not on some “sjw crusade”.

While I sincerely respect your time and the opinion you’ve presented here, I can’t help but think it’s slightly flawed.

I am human and I do slip up and I’m sure at times even I will make the very same mistakes I am calling out now. So I’m not “demonizing” anyone because I’d have to take the horns and pitchfork first myself, lest I be a hypocrite. I’m just pointing out something that has reared itself again in the last couple of days and it’s such an easy thing to change. I am just asking people to think about how we dismiss each other out of hand.

It’s less about women, and more about Apple. Trust me. Had apple picked different people of the same sex, I guarantee a different reaction.

I think you’ve done very well to do the same. I know you don’t want to feel dismissed as a misogynist. However that is a misunderstanding on your part, as we aren’t dismissing every person on here who doesn’t like Mariah Carey as a misogynist. At least I am not trying to, and if it came across as that way I do apologize as that is not my intent.

I am talking about a specific way of speaking dismissively about anything perceived as oriented toward women or girls. It is really demeaning and it hurts to be on the receiving end of it. That’s all.

At the end of the day I agree with you. Reality is that tech is dominated by males, as with tech websites. You’re going to see these comments.
 
What your doing is demonizing everyone here who criticized your favorite actress.

Some celebrities are just terrible human beings. It doesn’t matter if they are a male or female,or what they appeal to. People will judge others on character, not just entertainment value - as you seem to do.

Mariah, she’s fine. Cookies look good. Others don’t like her because of the incredibly racist things her husband has said.

Just because someone doesn’t like Mariah, for their own reason, doesn’t make them anti-housewife/woman or whatever message you’re attempting to deliver.
Nick cannon was her ex husband when he said those things. They separated in 2014. The post grumpy mum was responding to wasn't an attack on Mariah alone. It listed a range of famous people and moaned that apple were some how pandering to housewives with their TV content.
 
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I am talking about a specific way of speaking dismissively about anything perceived as oriented toward women or girls. It is really demeaning and it hurts to be on the receiving end of it. That’s all.
I see this here often in a very small way (I’m totally not disagreeing that it rears its ugly head in larger ways, this is just a small way that I frequently notice), when new watch bands come out and there are guys who will loudly proclaim ”Color X and Y and X are only for girls! Why can’t they make more masculine colors?” and my reaction is always, “WTF, colors do not have genitalia - nothing makes them inherently masculine or feminine, you’ve just been brainwashed to be fearful of being associated with certain colors because you’re afraid people might think you’re feminine - and it’s sad that you think having feminine qualities is a bad thing.” Frankly, if their perception of who they are is so shaky that they’re afraid that the color of a strip of plastic on their wrist might make people perceive them as either feminine or gay (as if either of those were bad things) they’ve much got bigger problems than just there being “too many” pastel watch bands.

Machismo, and the notion that men are inherently better than women, is toxic to this society. Throughout history, men have started the vast majority of the wars, done the vast majority of the murdering, committed the vast majority of the hate crimes. Men (mostly old, mostly white, mostly rich) have been allowed to have the vast majority of the power, and have largely driven the world into a ditch, over and over. I think there are a lot of women who could do better.

I’m all for having media (as with all things) that appeal to a wide spectrum of people - not everybody has to like the same thing, and having Mariah Carey be popular to some doesn’t mean other people can’t like something else - you don't have to have other people’s music lose in order for your music to win, for you - life is not a junior high popularity contest.

I’m not much for Mariah Carey myself, though I have a soft spot for “All I want for Christmas is you”, because it reminds me of “Love, Actually”, a happy movie that always makes me cry. A movie a lot of guys might label a “chick flick” because there are no car chases, explosions, robots, or gun fights, and it’s mostly about relationships.

My favorite people are my nieces, who are at an age where they love unicorns and mermaids, and when they see see any character in a book who isn’t really obviously male (like, say, with a long beard), they just assume the character is female. It’s delightfully refreshing. They’re also fabulously smart, inquisitive, inventive, and, interested in the world around them. And the older one wants to be an astronaut. They’re my hope for the future.
 
I see this here often in a very small way (I’m totally not disagreeing that it rears its ugly head in larger ways, this is just a small way that I frequently notice), when new watch bands come out and there are guys who will loudly proclaim ”Color X and Y and X are only for girls! Why can’t they make more masculine colors?” and my reaction is always, “WTF, colors do not have genitalia - nothing makes them inherently masculine or feminine, you’ve just been brainwashed to be fearful of being associated with certain colors because you’re afraid people might think you’re feminine - and it’s sad that you think having feminine qualities is a bad thing.” Frankly, if their perception of who they are is so shaky that they’re afraid that the color of a strip of plastic on their wrist might make people perceive them as either feminine or gay (as if either of those were bad things) they’ve much got bigger problems than just there being “too many” pastel watch bands.
So wait, your saying if apple only made Black, Dark Blue, and other dark colors, there would be no protest?

“WTF these colors are for guys, why can’t they make cute feminine colors?!”
....and my reaction is always, “WTF, colors do not have genitalia - nothing makes them inherently masculine or feminine, you’ve just been brainwashed to be fearful of being associated with certain colors because you’re afraid people might think you’re masculine - and it’s sad that you think having masculine qualities is a bad thing.” Frankly, if their perception of who they are is so shaky that they’re afraid that the color of a strip of plastic on their wrist might make people perceive them as either masculine or manly (as if either of those were bad things) they’ve much got bigger problems than just there being “too many” dark watch bands.
 
Is it so bad to complain about a feature aimed at adolescent women? Most of us here a techies, we don’t care for that. I don’t think that’s offensive. It’s an opinion. I think they are silly. Maybe others shouldn’t refer to what sex they think they are aimed at


So because some people here view or express that some features as petty, or a particular show topic stupid...that is demeaning to women whom “take themselves seriously as hardworking in contributors in society”?





You think “housewife” is offensive? You can thank Bravo and Real Housewives for ruining that. Really lukewarm comment.

It’s a show for aimed at woman. It would be no different then saying “just a bunch of bros”



While I sincerely respect your time and the opinion you’ve presented here, I can’t help but think it’s slightly flawed.



It’s less about women, and more about Apple. Trust me. Had apple picked different people of the same sex, I guarantee a different reaction.



At the end of the day I agree with you. Reality is that tech is dominated by males, as with tech websites. You’re going to see these comments.
I honestly don’t know how to express my thoughts more plainly. You’re putting words into my mouth that aren’t what I said. Unfortunately, I can see how you have interpreted what I’ve said in the way you have. But it’s not what I meant at all and I admit I struggle how to make it more clear now. I’ll give it my best shot, though.

It is fine to say someone thinks a feature is frivolous or doesn’t appeal to them. When it becomes insulting and creates a hostile environment is when there are people saying things like “This stupid feature is for silly teenaged girls”.

If you were a young girl reading something like that on this forum, imagine how it would make you feel.

It’s one thing if men want to vent somewhere on their opinions about the foibles of females and our tastes in sub sections of the forum. I may not like what is said, but if I don’t like it I can move on past, knowing I won’t miss out on the tech news and discussion I came here for.

But the common area of technology/Apple discussions should be a more welcoming environment for ALL people.

Because the reality is tech is NOT dominated by men. Maybe people get that impression in online environments. And for that very reason it’s important that we do create a less hostile environment for women. So you can see women technology nerds do exist and our numbers are only going to grow as tech continues to dominate our livelihoods and our lives.

If you go out into “the real world” there is an increasing abundance of women in technology jobs. I should know, because my husband has been mentored by and is now mentoring women in technology. After almost 3 decades of evaluating and recruiting and developing tech talent, my husband has seen that some of the most promising technologists who will be assuming the top level management positions over the next 20 years are women.

Technology is an almost inescapable aspect of people’s lives. It’s no longer the domain of men in suits at IBM. Or guys building computers in their garages. Technology impacts all of our lives and women are naturally taking an interest in these devices.

There are more and more females heading technology oriented You Tube channels.

So, the reason women aren’t making our presence felt in tech forums is not because we don’t exist.

I would wager part of the reason is that even in 2020 it is because this is not a comfortable place to be. Or women, like I once did on an Android forum, strive to maintain an ambiguous presence to avoid being confronted with stereotypes.

I’m always pleasantly surprised when a topic opens up where women can discuss phone accessories, like a certain brand favored by women, how many women we have lurking on here and how engaged they are with technology. It is in a different way from the way men are engaged, sometimes. But it’s equally worthy engagement. I think we don’t get discussions going more because the things that might get us talking would be denigrated off the forum.

So yes, discussions oriented around male perspectives and dominated by male participants do seem to constitute the bulk of online forums. But that doesn’t mean the women aren’t there reading this stuff. We are out here.

On to your other point...

I AM a housewife and proud of it. It’s a worthwhile life well spent and I’m incredibly blessed to have had this opportunity to be a housewife. I don’t have a problem with the word. It’s the tone and context, the air of dismissal I am attempting, clearly unsuccessfully, to address.

I also appreciate the time you’ve given me in this discussion and I hope I have been able to clarify my point of view a bit better. It is never my intention to dismiss, vilify or make other members of this forum feel “less than”. I appreciate how you’ve pointed out how my words may be construed to do just that and for giving me the opportunity to lay it out a bit better. At least I hope I’ve done so.

I hope you will give careful consideration to what I’ve said. And please look at what I really said. It’s not as harsh as you seemed to think.

I was raised up to want to make the world a better place than I found it and to leave people happy they stopped to chat with me. If I leave you feeling poorly done by, then we have a misunderstanding between us that surely can be worked out. 😀
 
I see this here often in a very small way (I’m totally not disagreeing that it rears its ugly head in larger ways, this is just a small way that I frequently notice), when new watch bands come out and there are guys who will loudly proclaim ”Color X and Y and X are only for girls! Why can’t they make more masculine colors?” and my reaction is always, “WTF, colors do not have genitalia - nothing makes them inherently masculine or feminine, you’ve just been brainwashed to be fearful of being associated with certain colors because you’re afraid people might think you’re feminine - and it’s sad that you think having feminine qualities is a bad thing.” Frankly, if their perception of who they are is so shaky that they’re afraid that the color of a strip of plastic on their wrist might make people perceive them as either feminine or gay (as if either of those were bad things) they’ve much got bigger problems than just there being “too many” pastel watch bands.

Machismo, and the notion that men are inherently better than women, is toxic to this society. Throughout history, men have started the vast majority of the wars, done the vast majority of the murdering, committed the vast majority of the hate crimes. Men (mostly old, mostly white, mostly rich) have been allowed to have the vast majority of the power, and have largely driven the world into a ditch, over and over. I think there are a lot of women who could do better.

I’m all for having media (as with all things) that appeal to a wide spectrum of people - not everybody has to like the same thing, and having Mariah Carey be popular to some doesn’t mean other people can’t like something else - you don't have to have other people’s music lose in order for your music to win, for you - life is not a junior high popularity contest.

I’m not much for Mariah Carey myself, though I have a soft spot for “All I want for Christmas is you”, because it reminds me of “Love, Actually”, a happy movie that always makes me cry. A movie a lot of guys might label a “chick flick” because there are no car chases, explosions, robots, or gun fights, and it’s mostly about relationships.

My favorite people are my nieces, who are at an age where they love unicorns and mermaids, and when they see see any character in a book who isn’t really obviously male (like, say, with a long beard), they just assume the character is female. It’s delightfully refreshing. They’re also fabulously smart, inquisitive, inventive, and, interested in the world around them. And the older one wants to be an astronaut. They’re my hope for the future.
Aww nieces and nephews are awesome! Mine are all grown now and have kids of their own I adore.

It’s for the sake of my boys that I try never to dwell on the things you talked about while trying to lift up the girls. The past is unfortunate and mistakes were made but these amazing young people are learning from those mistakes and doing so much. I just got back from a charity endeavor this afternoon and was heartened to see such incredible participation.

We all are in this together to build a better world for all of us. I’m very excited and optimistic for the next generation.
 
Aagghhh back on topic, does anyone else find it a little disturbing to see Charlie Brown so high definition and lacking all the Peppermint Patty commercials? Lol. It just feels so weird to me when we all sat down to watch the Charlie Brown Thanksgiving and it looked so clean and sharp and didn’t have all the commercial interruptions I grew up with!
 
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