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A Clear Explanation of iTunes Match

Does anyone know how to get "Not Eligible" songs onto your iPhone after you enable iTunes match? For example, I have several long sermons that are over the 200mb limit, so they were not uploaded to iCloud. How would I be able to get these onto my iPhone now? - or is all manual control of music removed once match is enabled?

Sorry if this has been answered - I've been searching for a while to no avail...
 
Don'tBeJ said:
Here's something nobody seems to be talking about. Even though you can run iTunes 10.5.1 with older versions of Mac OSX, you have to have 10.7 to run iTunes Match. I was pretty bummed out when I realized this.

I installed the new version of iTunes on my G5 PowerMac and bought iTunes Match (I was pretty excited because I have a ton of music on my PowerMac and would like to be able to easily access it from my iPhone 4 and MacBook). During step 1 of the matching process, iTunes kept stalling and crashing. So, I go to the apple.com support page and find out that Lion is required for iTunes Match! So pissed.

As there will never be an upgrade to Lion available for my powerpc Mac, I guess I'm just stuck.
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You have a MacBook, though, so you have something that can run Lion (or at least Snow Leopard, which seems to be working for some people). So you ought to be able to connect to your Power Mac as a network drive on your MacBook, and tell iTunes on the MacBook to use your library on the Power Mac. (You might need to copy over the actual library files, "iTunes Library" and "iTunes Music Library.xml" in your Music folder.) Once you're done matching, you can change the library location back to something local and disconnect the network drive.

Disclaimer: I haven't actually tried this.
 
Not available in Canada

as with most cool products, not working in Canada. Probably not available for some time...:confused:
 
Matching works great, but I have one question...

I've only had about 20 tracks out of 24,200 songs not work. Loads better than the betas. Only problem is I store all of my media on an external drive, and when it's not plugged in, the songs in iTunes show the song not found "!" instead of playing off of the iCloud. Do I need to create a completely new library for listening on the go?
 
Matching Uploaded songs

I finally got iTunes Match to either match or upload my entire music library. However, I noticed that some of the uploaded songs were, in fact, present in the iTunes Music Store. Is there a way for iTunes to "re-scan" these songs, match them and removed them from my iCloud?
 
doomnote said:
Does anyone know how to get "Not Eligible" songs onto your iPhone after you enable iTunes match? For example, I have several long sermons that are over the 200mb limit, so they were not uploaded to iCloud. How would I be able to get these onto my iPhone now? - or is all manual control of music removed once match is enabled?

Sorry if this has been answered - I've been searching for a while to no avail...
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Since it isn't actually a song, perhaps Right Click on the track > Get Info > Options > Media Kind > switch it to Audio Book or Voice Memo > OK. Then synch your phone with iTunes via your normal method, i.e. wire or wifi-synch. Then you'll find your sermons under the category you've switched them to.
 
msnyder7 said:
I've only had about 20 tracks out of 24,200 songs not work. Loads better than the betas. Only problem is I store all of my media on an external drive, and when it's not plugged in, the songs in iTunes show the song not found "!" instead of playing off of the iCloud. Do I need to create a completely new library for listening on the go?
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They are not found in the library because iTunes can't see the root drive of the external drive is unplugged or off. iCloud is primarily an external hub to keep music your not listening too. No streaming!

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psuguy384 said:
I finally got iTunes Match to either match or upload my entire music library. However, I noticed that some of the uploaded songs were, in fact, present in the iTunes Music Store. Is there a way for iTunes to "re-scan" these songs, match them and removed them from my iCloud?
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The song has to be purchased from iTunes to store them for free and not count towards the 25k.
 
SolarJ said:
They are not found in the library because iTunes can't see the root drive of the external drive is unplugged or off. iCloud is primarily an external hub to keep music your not listening too. No streaming!

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The song has to be purchased from iTunes to store them for free and not count towards the 25k.
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Right, I understand that. But I want the songs to be matched so that they are upgraded to the 256 kbps bitrate. Most of the ones are 128 or 192 VBR.
 
Wow! Mad props to whoever made the screenshot of iTunes match for being a Tanya Donnelly fan. I never thought I'd ever see her mostly obscure reference used like this!
 
Alonzo84 said:
So I've got 4 songs from 4 different albums that are "Not Eligible" even though all the other songs from those albums were matched. I've also got 345 songs out of around 2700 that had to be uploaded. Three of my playlists say "playlist not eligible because iCloud playlists can only contain music", even though the playlists contain nothing but music.

And how do you obtain the "matched" version of the tracks? Is the only way to delete them and then re-download them from iCloud?
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I have the same basic problem, but with a much larger library.

1. Random ineligible songs that are ineligible for no apparent reason.

2. Songs with a "Removed" symbol that I sure as hell never removed.

3. A crap-ton of "Error" cloud symbols.

4. A bunch of "Duplicates" that I know for certain are not duplicated in my library.

Out of approximately 7,000 songs in my library, about 5,500 matched, and the other 1,500 are in this unusable limbo called iTunes non-Match.

I've already turned off iTunes Match. (You can do that in the "Store" pull-down menu).

iTunes Match is a hot mess as far as I can see. Apple got my $24.95, and I got a completely irrational selection of songs that either matched or didn't.

Do I care much? I guess not. I had some dream that I'd press a button and have my carefully curated iTunes library uploaded into the cloud.

Instead I got a hodge-podge of a scattered mess that I can already tell I'll have no urge to use.

My iPod Classic just became an even better music delivery device, and that's saying something because for my money the Classic is the ULTIMATE music delivery device. My entire 70-Gig library at my fingertips, with the never-bettered click-wheel interface.

If iTunes Match randomly leaves out a song or two from random albums in my library, it's useless to me.

Google Music and Amazon Cloud at least duplicate your library in a straightforward fashion. Not this random broken match system.

Sorry, Apple. Not acceptable. First Lion, and now iTunes Non-Match. Great...
 
steephill said:
Since it isn't actually a song, perhaps Right Click on the track > Get Info > Options > Media Kind > switch it to Audio Book or Voice Memo > OK. Then synch your phone with iTunes via your normal method, i.e. wire or wifi-synch. Then you'll find your sermons under the category you've switched them to.
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Genius - thank you so much.
 
nemaslov said:
Ignorant statement. I have 60,000 plus songs loaded and I'll probably double that when I load in all my CDs. People who say "you'll never listen to all that..." don't understand the concept of a library. The match allows you to listen anywhere on your devices. If you are on the road you want to CHOOSE from that huge library. Obviously you won't listen to them all but you have options. Real book libraries hold many more books then you'll ever read but they give you the choice...

And streaming services don't have evberuthin the I would have in my collection.

You are missing the point. We want access to our libraries wherever we go. If they made a 1T iPod Classic there are many of us collectors who would buy one. The match service should allow us to haploid huge libraries, even if we have to pay a bit more for the service.
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Right there with you on this one. I was going to set this up for my father. He is a roadie from way back when and needs access to whatever music whenever and wherever he is that day in case the band he is touring with wants to do some obscure cover or if he has to jump out with an act he is not fully familiar with. The 25k limit doesn't even begin to address his collection. Instead I will have to have him continue to lug around multiple hard drives and be ready to send out a back up incase of failure (some music festivals are in miserable conditions) or theft (the local help has been known to walk away with things). Come on Apple, quit applying arbitrary limits....
 
I read every single post in this entire thread, and now I'm more confused than when I started.

This seems like a royal disaster. And now I don't even want to sign up. After building, investing, and preserving such a large library, there are so many up in the air problems with this that it seems in the end, you'll come out with less rather than more. I'll stick with what I know works, rather than chance this.
 
HiRez said:
Yeah, I was kind of hoping for the same thing. I want to stream it, but have it gone after it's done playing. Or, it could download the song completely, but then maybe you'd have a cache of recently used songs (hopefully the user specifies how big this cache is). When you fill up the cache, it starts deleting the oldest files to make room for new ones, and maybe you could mark any songs in certain playlists to not get deleted, for example a workout mix you use every day. With this system I could listen to any song in my library without syncing 5,000 songs to the phone, and never use more than X GB (whatever size I choose) on the device for my music.
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Then maybe your battery life will be as short as the album itself... Streaming is great, but unless our cell phone battery tech advances by ten fold... I'd rather keep the music local on my phone. Not to mention the Internet connection of your phone may drop during your journey.
 
Canada and iTunes Match ??

Is it available here in Canada yet??? If so, how do I activate it or sign up once I am in the ITunes store???
 
It accepted my entire library. However, I'm one of those "anal-retentive" types and what's in the cloud is a mess. My iphone shows multiple listings for artists/bands--some are listed alphabetically under their first name AND then listed again under their last name. Artwork has disappeared. It's like there's a sugared-up 5 year-old organizing my library.
 
What happens after syncing

So I updated all my matched songs to the 256K bit rate in iTunes, but what will happen to the songs already on my iPhone/iPad. Will they update to the higher bit rate, will they stay at the lower bit rate, or will they replace the higher bit rate songs that are now on my computer?
 
Can someone explain to me how a single track from an entire album purchased from iTunes is "Not Eligible"? I've got 4 songs like that from 4 different albums, but the rest of the album is "Matched".
 
is there a way to use metadata from the iTunes version of the song? My library is fairly neat, but there are maybe 2 or 300 songs thats tags could use some fixing. Does match not offer this feature?
 
obscure music

Hi,
I have some obscure stuff in my library that isn't anywhere on the net and was just wondering if iTunes uploads stuff for me, does that mean its just for me or can someone else utilize what I've ripped and vice versa....essentially is Apple adding to its library with matchers?
shaun
 
If it uses my current metadata for the matched song, how can I be sure it matched the song correctly (like matching it to a random compilation album or something)?
 
I can see a few posters who haven't kept backups of their pristine libraries. This is still essentially version 1. IF you fail to make a backup of what is essentially critical (to you) data, then it's up to your mad skillz to reverse any damage obtained by not keeping backups.

:D
 
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