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A Clear Explanation of iTunes Match

iPI said:
All I want to know is if I can stream the music to my 4S without downloading it. I got the small 16Gig phone because I thought I wouldn't have to store any of my music in the device. If they make you download the songs you stream, it kinda defeats the purpose of storing music on the cloud.:confused:
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Yeah, I was kind of hoping for the same thing. I want to stream it, but have it gone after it's done playing. Or, it could download the song completely, but then maybe you'd have a cache of recently used songs (hopefully the user specifies how big this cache is). When you fill up the cache, it starts deleting the oldest files to make room for new ones, and maybe you could mark any songs in certain playlists to not get deleted, for example a workout mix you use every day. With this system I could listen to any song in my library without syncing 5,000 songs to the phone, and never use more than X GB (whatever size I choose) on the device for my music.
 
Quick question, and I am sure I could figure it out with a little digging, but how do I delete songs from my iCloud?
I have one album that put one song in there twice for some reason.
 
Also kind of weird which songs are available via the match. Many albums have a few missing or only a few there. I know the upload will fill in the rest but it's odd. Maybe it's just cause I've uploaded only 15% of the non-matched songs or maybe it's just licensing issues by apple. So far I can't tell on my phone which are matched songs and which are uploaded songs.
 
leftover911 said:
I don't understand why people still don't have Lion.
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Because I have 3 computers to upgrade and I want to do a fresh install on all 3. I work for a living and I don't have the time to be messing with this for a while. Doing fresh installs will take some time to do, probably all day for 3 computers. I'm sorry because have other things to do or spend money on besides upgrading. I want to put a bigger hard drive also when I upgrade to Lion, so yes, people have other things to do.
 
HiRez said:
Yeah, I was kind of hoping for the same thing. I want to stream it, but have it gone after it's done playing. Or, it could download the song completely, but then maybe you'd have a cache of recently used songs (hopefully the user specifies how big this cache is). When you fill up the cache, it starts deleting the oldest files to make room for new ones, and maybe you could mark any songs in certain playlists to not get deleted, for example a workout mix you use every day. With this system I could listen to any song in my library without syncing 5,000 songs to the phone, and never use more than X GB (whatever size I choose) on the device for my music.
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Same here. I like your idea about a limited time/file cache. I'd also like an on/off switch to give the option to delete songs after listening, but I think the cache idea might be better.

Maybe something for a future IOS update?
 
I wish that I culd turn on match in iTunes and upgrade all of my less than 256 kbps songs but still be able to use the on-the-fly 128 kbps option in iTunes to load songs onto my device. I assume this would still work if I simply didn't turn on iTunes Match on the DEVICE but only in iTunes - correct? I would then jusy lose the ability to download from iTunes Match directly to the device.

Can someone clarify?

Tony
 
I turned on iTunes match on my iPad and realized I didn't want it since my iPad is wifi only. So When I turned it back off it kept showing all of the "matched" music in my library and was missing 90% of the album art. So then I just decided to delete all my music on the iPad so I could start from scratch. (wen into settings- usage- delete music) then I went back into my music app and all of my artists were still there! only they had the cloud logo next to all of them.

I want this iTunes match OFF my iPad and back the way it was.

WAIT A MINUTE. When I play music from the cloud on my iPhone via wifi/3g its not STREAMING it? Instead its DOWNLOADING it?! WHY would anyone want that? What kind of stupid idea is that? I only have 16 gigs on my iPhone I don't want this crap storing on my phone. The whole point of this iTunes match should be to have your iCloud music library streaming onto your device so you don't take up space on your phone! PLEASE tell me this isn't true.
 
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I'm still confused.

What happens to matched songs after a year if you decide you don't want to continue to pay Apple $25? Are matched songs credited as purchased? If they aren't credited as purchases, what exactly are we paying for? Minus the upconversion, this service would be identical to Google's storage locker, save for uploading time - which for $25, I would just let it run in the background. You would be an idiot to pay for Apple's service because after a year, it would be identical to Google's...only $25 more expensive.

I understand the unmatched storage. I also understand that the $25 yearly fee would get you continued access to the cloud for those unmatched songs. My questions only relate towards the matched content after your year subscription.
 
Roofy. said:
WAIT A MINUTE. When I play music from the cloud on my iPhone via wifi/3g its not STREAMING it? Instead its DOWNLOADING it?! WHY would anyone want that? What kind of stupid idea is that? I only have 16 gigs on my iPhone I don't want this crap storing on my phone. The whole point of this iTunes match should be to have your iCloud music library streaming onto your device so you don't take up space on your phone! PLEASE tell me this isn't true.
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yes, it's downloading. your entire world is falling apart. this. very. minute.
 
Song Doubles

How does match handle when you have doubles of songs in your library? I somehow ended up with doubles of a bunch of songs and have not had the time to go through and delete them all. Will match put doubles in the cloud or can I use this as an easy way to get rid of the doubles? Or do I need to clean up my library before I sign up?
 
vtstarck said:
I'm still confused.

What happens to matched songs after a year if you decide you don't want to continue to pay Apple $25? Are matched songs credited as purchased? If they aren't credited as purchases, what exactly are we paying for? Minus the upconversion, this service would be identical to Google's storage locker, save for uploading time - which for $25, I would just let it run in the background. You would be an idiot to pay for Apple's service because after a year, it would be identical to Google's...only $25 more expensive.

I understand the unmatched storage. I also understand that the $25 yearly fee would get you continued access to the cloud for those unmatched songs. My questions only relate towards the matched content after your year subscription.
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See the countless answers to this above and in the article.
 
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Any ideas as to why?
 
I've noticed that some songs I had that were explicit with curse words were Matched but replaced with edited versions, which is not good.
 
gloriouspast said:
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Any ideas as to why?
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More and more users will be trying to access iTunes Match not to mention downloading the higher quality versions of songs.

Just need to keep trying.

BTW everyone now knows your email addy/iTunes store account from your screenshot
 
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Is anyone else having it take all day to upload your songs? I have about 7,000 songs in my iTunes library
 
TigerWoodsIV said:
I'm just wondering, how is this possible? If you have a CD rip it's just a CD rip is it not? How could they tell if something was pirated?
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Different ripping programs/codecs will produce different files. If you have the exact same software, hardware and settings, you could generate the same binary file from a cd rip, but chances are there will be slight differences in the file.

So if there is a known pirate file online, the RIAA could compare that file's checksum with the checksum of your files.

As I said, I doubt that Apple would do/is doing this, but it *IS* technically possible since you are sending the file info to Apple to be matched.
 
OK, I read through all 7 pages, and somehow I'm either blind, or just not getting this from the answers here.

For songs that have been matched, how can I tell which of them are 256K quality on my computer already, and which I need to DL from the cloud? I'd prefer not to DL my entire library again (I'm well under the 25K limit and am about 50/50 between iTunes purchases and CD rips or Amazon MP3s).

Thanks in advance.
 
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nemaslov said:
Love this product but disappointed that those of us with large libraries (i have 60,000 + songs in digital form (and will probably transfer twice that in the next few months) won't be able to use it for now unless they offer several song quantity levels. It seems some who have more than 25,000 songs are denied uploading their library.

Some say it's so big deal since most people have smaller libraries but you would be surprised at how many have huge ones.

I'm in my 50s and many many of my friends have large libraries imported from their huge CD collections. Especially some of us who used to work in the Record Biz.

I'd pay multiples of $25. per year for my larger library.
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You are right we would all be surprised if people claimed any significant number of people had music libraries they paid 100k to amass
 
Looking over my match status:

Looks like I am getting matches from non-US iTunes music. At least this artist isn't in the US iTunes store - well she has *one* track.

You can see they match in my iTunes, and show up in the Japanese iTunes store. But they do not show up in the US Store and I have a US iTunes account. FWIW, I originally ripped these from a CD, they didn't come from iTunes.

Looks like I'm regretting that experiment - it disabled iTunes Match when I switched stores and it is forcing me to resync. But it appears about 50% of this artist is "matched" with only one song in the U.S. store.
 

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vtstarck said:
I'm still confused.

What happens to matched songs after a year if you decide you don't want to continue to pay Apple $25? Are matched songs credited as purchased? If they aren't credited as purchases, what exactly are we paying for? Minus the upconversion, this service would be identical to Google's storage locker, save for uploading time - which for $25, I would just let it run in the background. You would be an idiot to pay for Apple's service because after a year, it would be identical to Google's...only $25 more expensive.

I understand the unmatched storage. I also understand that the $25 yearly fee would get you continued access to the cloud for those unmatched songs. My questions only relate towards the matched content after your year subscription.

JayInNJ said:
See the countless answers to this above and in the article.
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I reread and I do see this was answered, thank you. It still seems like a bad deal. The only benefits are 1) less upload time to iCloud because of matching and 2) higher quality songs. Google offers a music locker that's free and doesnt expire. Why would I choose Apple over Google or some other 3rd party when after a year I'm back to where I started but with upgraded quality music for the music that I was able to match. Also, isn't any time benefit with #1 above negated by the fact that you have to take the time to redownload higher bit rate songs for benefit #2?

In my opinion, my questions still stands. What exactly are you paying for?
 
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