A Full Apple Ecosystem Now Costs Less Than a MacBook Pro

[Adelphos33]

Remember that most US customers can get an iPhone (certainly a 17e, and probably a 17 or 17 pro as well) for free from a carrier.

Also, Apple needs a cheaper iPad keyboard, especially for the base iPad. Bring back the Smart Keyboard Folio! Regardless you can use the MacBook Neo keyboard to type and point on the iPad through Universal Control as well if you set them up side by side. A regular case for the iPad may be all that is required

 

[capamac]

Remember that most US customers can get an iPhone (certainly a 17e, and probably a 17 or 17 pro as well) for free from a carrier.

Also, Apple needs a cheaper iPad keyboard, especially for the base iPad. Bring back the Smart Keyboard Folio! Regardless you can use the MacBook Neo keyboard to type and point on the iPad through Universal Control as well if you set them up side by side. A regular case for the iPad may be all that is required

It's not free; the full price of the phone is simply spread out over the course of a couple years.

 

[d686546s]

The article is about comparing the price of the MBP to the other items listed. The Vision Pro is not in the article because it isn't applicable.

Why not? I'm not trying to be flippant, you look at a "full Apple ecosystem" made up of all "lowest-cost tiers."

Even if we assume that this implies one of every product category and we subsume every possible type of Mac under a single product, we'd still have to include the lowest-cost Vision Pro.

If the article was about 'all the Apple products you can buy for the price of a MacBook Pro', fine, but you did call it a full ecosystem of all lowest-cost products...

 

[Apple_Robert]

Why not? I'm not trying to be flippant, you look at a "full Apple ecosystem" made up of all "lowest-cost tiers."

Even if we assume that this implies one of every product category and we subsume every possible type of Mac under a single product, we'd still have to include the lowest-cost Vision Pro.

If the article was about 'all the Apple products you can buy for the price of a MacBook Pro', fine, but you did call it a full ecosystem of all lowest-cost products...

I said no such thing.

 

[macos9rules]

And you'll still have enough left over to pick up an Apple Polishing Cloth!

 

[Frantisekj]

Not sure how this information is useful for most people. I’m sure there are a few who perhaps feel Apple products are part of their identity in some way, and owning Apple products in every category is some sort of goal. I’ve never met anyone like that.

Very usefull 😁
You can end up like that es well:

iPhone 17 Pro Max (2TB): $1,899
MacBook Air 15-inch (M5, 24GB RAM, 2TB SSD): $2,999
iPad Pro 13-inch (M5, 2TB, nano-texture glass): $3,499
Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro 13-inch (with function row): $349
Apple Pencil Pro: $129
Apple Watch Ultra 3 (49mm Titanium): $899
AirPods Pro 3 (USB-C, advanced ANC): $299
Apple TV 4K (128GB, Wi-Fi + Ethernet): $169
HomePod 2 (stereo pair): $599
AirTag (4-pack): $99

Total: $10,940
List may not be precise....

 

[d686546s]

I said no such thing.

What do you mean, these are quotes from the headline and the first sentence of the article.

You talk about a "full Apple ecosystem" and the "entire entry-level product lineup", which seems to mean just the lowest-cost product of every type of hardware Apple makes.

I'm not trying to be difficult and it's no big deal, but if we talk about the "full" ecosystem, why exclude the Vision Pro?

 

[newtestleper]

Roll on WWDC, if this is what we're now coming up with.

 

[Apple_Robert]

What do you mean, these are quotes from the headline and the first sentence of the article.

You talk about a "full Apple ecosystem" and the "entire entry-level product lineup", which seems to mean just the lowest-cost product of every type of hardware Apple makes.

I'm not trying to be difficult and it's no big deal, but if we talk about the "full" ecosystem, why exclude the Vision Pro?

I didn't write the article and you keep attributing to me words I never said.

 

[TVreporter]

Where’s the Apple Polishing Cloth!!!?

Shame on this oversight MR!

 

[d686546s]

I didn't write the article and you keep attributing to me words I never said.

You're right, mea culpa. It's been a long day and the "contributor" tag under the username seems to have flipped a wrong switch in my mind. Apologies.

 

[JohannesO]

Ecosystem

• iPhone 17e: $599
• MacBook Neo: $599
• iPad (11th generation): $349
• Magic Keyboard Folio: $249
• Apple Pencil (USB-C): $79
• Apple Watch SE 3: $249
• AirPods 4: $129
• Apple TV 4K: $129
• HomePod mini: $99
• AirTag: $29

 

[ArtOfWarfare]

• iPhone 17e: $599
• MacBook Neo: $599
• iPad (11th generation): $349
• Magic Keyboard Folio: $249
• Apple Pencil (USB-C): $79
• Apple Watch SE 3: $249
• AirPods 4: $129
• Apple TV 4K: $129
• HomePod mini: $99
• AirTag: $29

I am willing to bet that nobody on earth owns just this set of Apple products and no other Apple items. In fact, I am willing to bet that nobody owns 7-out-of-10 of these and fewer than 7 other Apple items.

I think even if you accept those 7 to be of any generation... and maybe even class... you may still find nobody owns this particular set of Apple items without owning a whole lot more.

 

[ikramerica]

It's not a shot at the article it's a shot at the Vision Pro. It's just not part of "the ecosystem," no?

Has Apple ever launched a similar project and made so much noise about it, to years later have it not be relevant in an article like this?

I can't think of one. Maybe the iPod Hi-Fi.

Time Capsule.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

There’s no entry level equivalent for the Vision Pro.

Yet it’s still part of the ecosystem. You can’t call it a “full” ecosystem while selectively taking out expensive devices so it fits an arbitrary criteria.

 

[capamac]

Many call the ecosystem something of a walled garden.

 

[AppleTO]

yeah, buying used is the way to go. apple product updates have been so minor year to year for the past 2 decades. (ignoring the Intel -> Arm transition)

I don’t know about that anymore. Now that OCLP is dead, if you value security updates, the lifespan of your device will be limited. Yes you’re saving money, but you will also lose, sometimes significant, support lifetime. That said, we’ve yet to see how long AS products will be supported.

 

[capamac]

There's always Linux to extend the life of Apple hardware with the latest OS versions, with current browsers and the latest security pathches. 🙂 Both for x86-64 and ARM-based Macs.

 

[Mrkevinfinnerty]

Nobody needs a homepod mini or an iPad and keyboard also this is compared to the 16inch Macbook Pro the entry level for a MBP is $1699.

 

[AppleTO]

There's always Linux to extend the life of Apple hardware with the latest OS versions, with current browsers and the latest security pathches. 🙂 Both for x86-64 and ARM-based Macs.

For AS, barely, and it won’t be helpful for most people. The devices will end up bricks.

 

[capamac]

Barely, and it won’t be helpful for most people. The devices will end up bricks.

Eh, Linux these days isn't any more difficult than using Windows. Probably easier. Have you tried Linux lately? Back in the Apple II and MS-DOS days people managed quite nice to use those OSes and those were arguably more difficult/arcane to use than a GUI-based Linux distribution today.

 

[Wanted797]

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I'm the van-life zoomer with enough disposable income to buy a $4,000 camera and lens to go with my macbook pro to show off how affordable apple products are.

Also who uses a trackpad left handed (not many). Whys he holding the camera?

 

[Wanted797]

I don’t think anyone buying the Neo really needs the iPad keyboard. Maybe not even the iPad at all.

 

[conmee]

It is interesting to see that you can get quite a few things for $2,500. I could get six NEOs, an iPhone 17e, and a pepperoni pizza for the price of my M5 Pro MBP.

 

[conmee]

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I'm the van-life zoomer with enough disposable income to buy a $4,000 camera and lens to go with my macbook pro to show off how affordable apple products are.

By the looks of it, he’s got a sweet restored VW Vanagon based on the curtains and headrest. Those go for $30,000+ depending on condition even with a few hundred thousand miles on them.