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How hard would be for you to quit using your smartphone forever?

  • Very hard, like smoker breaking addiction (would survive, but it would be so difficult).

    Votes: 20 37.0%
  • I think I would not have much problems.

    Votes: 34 63.0%

  • Total voters
    54
To quote the book I previously mentioned, “Intentionality trumps convenience.”
A smartphone is convenient, and many of its functionalities are actually useful and harmless (GPS, Music, Calendar, Reminders).
What we have to do is to be intentional on the other things, such as Social media or even email and SMS’s.
Remove social media, set a time to check it, and be very specific.
Remove notifications.
Remove all useless apps that steal your attention (especially games) from the real world.
Relearn that boredom allows us to think.
Relearn to be in solitude (defined as not being alone in a cave, but being without constant attention-stealing inputs from other people so driving in a road trip would or a walk in the park would count ).

Being old enough to have grown up and been a student before mobiles existed, I'd cope. I wouldn't get lost, I wouldn't panic knowing I was eating a great meal and couldn't share photos of it to my friend around the world instantly, I know how to write letters and buy stamps if I had no computer access. I'd keep a paper diary and probably buy a watch, although I spent a few years both watch and mobile-phone-less when younger and liked the freedom of it.

However, why would I bother? A smartphone isn't doing me any harm. I'm not addicted. I can and do ignore beeps telling me messages have come in, I turn it off every night before I go to bed and I've even deleted all the Facebook apps (mainly cos they're huge and kept being updated rather than any fashionable hate for the thing).

It's a tool. It's like saying "could you live without a car?" sure, I'd take the bus/train and cycle as much as possible but if I had a car and found it useful why give it up? I don't actually have a car. I bus/train and cycle as much as possible but it seemed the easiest analogy at the time :)

Two excellent posts with which I am largely in agreement.

In common with you both, I also predate the era of computers, let alone smartphones.

As a student, and later, as an undergrad, all my essays were written in longhand, or on my mother's typewriter, (an early present in undergrad days was a portable typewriter of my own.)

I still eat meals without consulting my phone (unless the person I am dining with is unconscionably or fashionably late, in which case, I do then check to see whether they have given an ETA or an explanation or apology for such tardiness); likewise, I know how to write letters (and still do), buy stamps and post them.

And yes, I still keep a paper diary, (and use it, it's invaluable), and wear a wrist watch.

Solitude, I like, - and have always liked - and, since my mum's demise two months ago, I find I have also come to appreciate and really relish and savour silence.

Agree that boredom and solitude and not needing to be active allows one to think, sometimes to think creatively.

I think the question to be asked of smartphones is: do you own the smartphone or does it own you? Do you determine when and how you use it, or, do you respond, like Pavlov's dog in the famous experiment, to the stimulus of the sound of the phone?

When I first acquired a mobile phone (cell phone to Our Transatlantic Cousins) around twenty years ago, I vowed that I would never become a slave to the thing.

If out walking, I never take it, and, at night, it remains downstairs, barred from access to bedrooms and bathrooms.
 
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Two excellent posts with which I am largely in agreement.

In common with you both, I also predate the era of computers, let alone smartphones.

As student, and later, as an undergrad, all my essays were written in longhand, or on my mother's typewriter, (an early present in undergrad days was a portable typewriter of my own.)

I still eat meals without consulting my phone (unless the person I am dining with is unconscionably or fashionably late, in which case, I do then check to see whether they have given an ETA or an explanation or apology for such tardiness); likewise, I know how to write letters (and still do), buy stamps and post them.

And yes, I still keep a paper diary, (and use it, it's invaluable), and wear a wrist watch.

Solitude, I like, - and have always liked - and, since my mum's demise two months ago, I find I also like silence.

Agree that boredom and solitude and not needing to be active allows one to think, sometimes to think creatively.

I think the question is, do you own the smartphone or does it own you? When I first acquired a mobile phone (cell phone to Our Transatlantic Cousins) around twenty years ago, I vowed that I would never become a slave to the thing.

If out walking, I never take it, and, at night, it remains downstairs, barred from access to bedrooms and bathrooms.
Scepticalscribe, your post was like looking into the mirror.
How interesting that those who belong to the same generation think alike, despite the country they live in.
 
Scepticalscribe, your post was like looking into the mirror.
How interesting that those who belong to the same generation think alike, despite the country they live in.

Well said.

Perhaps it is a generational thing, or the way we were brought up, or the value we place on (or were taught to place on) certain things, or people, but I view tech as a tool, something to aid my navigation of life, something that makes many things in life easier, something that is necessary to know (and master, to some extent) to have a professional existence in our world, but not something that defines me or expresses my sense of identity.

I see no contradiction whatsoever in using a fountain pen (and a paper diary - and both are used daily) and also using an Apple computer (my trusty 11" MBA) and an SE iPhone, (both of which are also used daily).

If I am out without my phone, (which is more often than people realise), if someone attempts to reach me, I am supremely unbothered by this.

I simply return the call whenever I am reunited with my phone.

Likewise, if I am having dinner, or sharing a bottle of wine with friends, my phone is never answered; they have first call on my time, not the person calling by phone. That call I can, and will, return when the time is appropriate.

For, I consider it the height of bad manners to spend time scrolling though your phone when you are out for a meal or drink with friends, especially if you are with individuals you may not have met for an age.
 
I don't have a smart phone. My wife has an iPhone. I just commented to her yesterday that I'm glad that I do not have a smart phone. Many people thing texting is the greatest invention ever, while I think it's intrusive. I prefer e-mail, but now, many people ignore the e-mails I send. Oh well...
 
I would pick the choice not in the poll: not having a smart phone would be a big inconvienence. I use it as a database of contacts, addresses, GPS navigation, notification of a variety of matters that require my attention, two step verification for security of accounts, reading books, and entertainment in a pinch.
 
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Lots of aspects of life, especially in cities, are getting made much harder without smartphones unfortunately.
I would pick the choice not in the poll: not having a smart phone would be a big inconvienence. I use it as a database of contacts, addresses, GPS navigation, notification of a variety of matters that require my attention, two step verification for security of accounts, reading books, and entertainment in a pinch.

I fall in this camp.

Even if not "addicted" to your device, which I'm not, it's becoming more and more instrumental to simple convenient modern daily life in so many areas.
 
Well said.

Perhaps it is a generational thing, or the way we were brought up, or the value we place on (or were taught to place on) certain things, or people, but I view tech as a tool, something to aid my navigation of life, something that makes many things in life easier, something that is necessary to know (and master, to some extent) to have a professional existence in our world, but not something that defines me or expresses my sense of identity.

I see no contradiction whatsoever in using a fountain pen (and a paper diary - and both are used daily) and also using an Apple computer (my trusty 11" MBA) and an SE iPhone, (both of which are also used daily).

If I am out without my phone, (which is more often than people realise), if someone attempts to reach me, I am supremely unbothered by this.

I simply return the call whenever I am reunited with my phone.

Likewise, if I am having dinner, or sharing a bottle of wine with friends, my phone is never answered; they have first call on my time, not the person calling by phone. That call I can, and will, return when the time is appropriate.

For, I consider it the height of bad manners to spend time scrolling though your phone when you are out for a meal or drink with friends, especially if you are with individuals you may not have met for an age.

I don't know if generational or not.
I grew up with computers, and networks (older Fidonet and Euronet BBS's) that were omnipresent whenever I was at home.
I think that the main difference is that smartphones can be carried everywhere, and can be used anytime (including while driving as we know from the statistics). They are incredibly intrusive, and some of their apps function through the slot machine mechanism, which in turn makes them even more intrusive in our lives.
I think I am simply getting frustrated of the dependency I had from many apps that are ultimately quite useless or with a very low ROI in terms of attention. I am also getting increasingly frustrated by conversations that are one-liners with very little actual content. I prefer longer content, and food for thought (even PRSI is better than social media one-liners).
After trying Newport's Digital Minimalism declutter experiment, I ended up deleting my social media apps, and I set very strict times for social media. My home screen is totally empty, and I receive only SMS notification (due to my work and to having two teens at home, I kinda have to keep this one). Do I use facebook and Instagram? Yes, but on my terms. For example, last Saturday I knew that I didn't have to do much in terms of enjoying my Saturday morning. I re-installed the social media apps, browsed the social for 30 mins, and posted a couple of times. Then, I uninstalled everything again. I plan to re-check my socials on Wednesday during the last 10 minutes of lunchtime.
I am also trying to be more "present" in the moment, and if not I try to be with a nice book on my kindle and/or on paper.
 
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None of the above.

Rather, why give up a smartphone? I don't see the benefit and certainly see the drawbacks of not having one.
 
I think that question is multi-faceted so i will answer it the way i wanted it asked.
I no longer have : alarm clock, newspaper, compass, maps, landline phone with answering machine, appointment calendar, post it notes, walkman, tapes/CDs, watch, timer, voice recorder, calculator, camera, dictionary, encyclopedia, photo album. Those “add up” so no i cannot live without it. I can live without social media. I only require texting apps.
 
Moments ago, I was thinking about it, and I came to conclusion, I am hooked up on my phone.


It has became so integral part of my life, that day without it seems impossible.


I believe that if I had to, it would be very, very difficult to stop using my smartphone. Forever. I had so hard time quitting smoking, and I think quitting smartphone would be equally hard.


What about you, MR? How hooked you think you are, honestly?
Hello. Guess what? I'm not using a smartphone at all. I have an old LG phone that I started to use a long time ago. It's still alive and I'm glad to be using it every day. I'll say one more thing. I do like old Motorolla's and preparing to buy some of them for daily use. It's a bit problematic because of my location (Ukraine), and it's impossible to purchase something good from here. My last deal with eBay started to be a mistake :(
 
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without cell phone you will be disconnect for rest of the world.

  • How do you define "connected"?
  • Is someone a-la Thoreau more or less "connected" to the world than someone constantly on his/her phone?
  • Do we need to be connected to the "rest of the world"?
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as i am chating with you, from a side of the world, without phone i can not do this.

But is this really necessary, or even better? I am not debating the commodity of it.

and yes we need to connected to the world if we want to learn new things in life.

Is this the case? This comes with the assumption that you can't learn from your neighbor, and with the other assumption that nothing substantially bad can come with all this interconnected learning (for example, flat earthers are seriously on the rise, anti-vaxxers too, and moon-hoaxers too, let alone political stuff). Is Wikipedia really better than the Britannica?
While I am a person in love with technology, I can't unsee all the bad that is coming along with it, therefore I must ask questions about it. We learned quite a bit for a few million years, right? So learning is not exclusive of technology (although it might make the diffusion of information very easy).
 
Moments ago, I was thinking about it, and I came to conclusion, I am hooked up on my phone.


It has became so integral part of my life, that day without it seems impossible.


I believe that if I had to, it would be very, very difficult to stop using my smartphone. Forever. I had so hard time quitting smoking, and I think quitting smartphone would be equally hard.


What about you, MR? How hooked you think you are, honestly?


That only represents how boring your life is. Here in the U.S. I was hooked to my phone, whenever I travel to Europe, Hawaii or Latin America I do not even use it, I actually need it to make phone calls and that is it. When I come back to the U.S. I realize I use it more, why? because in this country you are trained to be a couch potato, this country is meant for you to be bored, when you are bored and in isolation with no friends or meaningless relationships... you get depressed and you fill that void by buying things. That is why Amazon and everything online works so well in this country, the system is meant for that. You spend more time on your phone filling up your time and with headphones to "travel somewhere". That is why is so hard to drop the phone in the U.S. or as a millennial in general.
 
Well said.

Perhaps it is a generational thing, or the way we were brought up, or the value we place on (or were taught to place on) certain things, or people, but I view tech as a tool, something to aid my navigation of life, something that makes many things in life easier, something that is necessary to know (and master, to some extent) to have a professional existence in our world, but not something that defines me or expresses my sense of identity.

I see no contradiction whatsoever in using a fountain pen (and a paper diary - and both are used daily) and also using an Apple computer (my trusty 11" MBA) and an SE iPhone, (both of which are also used daily).

If I am out without my phone, (which is more often than people realise), if someone attempts to reach me, I am supremely unbothered by this.

I simply return the call whenever I am reunited with my phone.

Likewise, if I am having dinner, or sharing a bottle of wine with friends, my phone is never answered; they have first call on my time, not the person calling by phone. That call I can, and will, return when the time is appropriate.

For, I consider it the height of bad manners to spend time scrolling though your phone when you are out for a meal or drink with friends, especially if you are with individuals you may not have met for an age.

This is mostly how I feel about it. Although I find it perfectly acceptable to bring out your phone and scroll. That is if you are going to show your friends something interesting in your life. Such as a picture of your kids, new house, car, recent vacation and so forth. Basically if you are using the phone to socialize with them not to get lost in your own world.
 
That depends on the type of lifestyle you were living. The phone allows you to access information quickly and efficiently in an information-driven world. If you weren't forced to work and had enough money to travel you wouldn't need to be by your phone all the time. When I go on vacation I barely use my phone and prefer to engage in the area I am staying at.

Sure, you could look up fun things to do in the area you are in using your phone, or you could do what people used to do and explore and talk with locals to learn about fun and interesting things to see. You wouldn't get to experience the "Top 10 things to see in ..." but you would definitely see interesting things and meet new people. There are options.

People used to live without phones by their side all the time and they got by just fine. I'm not saying phones are a bad thing, it's just your preference of how you would envision yourself living. For some having access to the information is necessary. I don't know what my preference would be until I had the choice of not using the phone, right now I have too many work-related things tied to my phone to simply get rid of it, though if I could, I'm not sure I would want to.
 
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That only represents how boring your life is. Here in the U.S. I was hooked to my phone, whenever I travel to Europe, Hawaii or Latin America I do not even use it, I actually need it to make phone calls and that is it. When I come back to the U.S. I realize I use it more, why? because in this country you are trained to be a couch potato, this country is meant for you to be bored, when you are bored and in isolation with no friends or meaningless relationships... you get depressed and you fill that void by buying things. That is why Amazon and everything online works so well in this country, the system is meant for that. You spend more time on your phone filling up your time and with headphones to "travel somewhere". That is why is so hard to drop the phone in the U.S. or as a millennial in general.

hmm, interesting post I have to admit, although I don't fully buy it. Some of my friends and relatives in Europe (mainly Italy, Switzerland, UK, Spain) report similar issues.
I'd frame it that the problem lies in two things:
  • Convenience. There is no doubt that smartphones are convenient. It's their biggest strength. You can pay your bills, GPS around, take pictures, listen to music, and even work (at least to a certain degree). We all want convenience because convenience is efficient, it frees up time to do other stuff. On a normal day I'd rather GPS, maybe avoiding traffic, rather than get lost and maybe get stuck 30 minutes in traffic. I'd rather have someone deliver the stuff I need rather than going to a Best Buy and have a horrible experience that takes time (and now even the Apple Store is a mess). The real issue is WHERE we use convenience and we DO with the convenience. I see two problems here. a) We extended convenience to social relationships, up to a point in which virtual relationships are more common than real life relationships (the younger the age, the truer it is). Stuff like the birthday reminders with automated "send your birthday wishes" are taking over more personal things, from a phone call to a card (or heck, even an email that took about 1 minute of actual writing). This makes us our own interactions mostly reactive to other people's lives. b) Freeing more time leads to the question "what do I do with it?" and a continuous inquiry of what are inconvenient things. The first element ("what do I do with it?") is in the next bullet point. The continuous inquiry is leading us to the concept that inconvenience is automatically bad, while in reality it can be a formative process. I say it half jokingly, but to play the guitar you have to use a guitar, not Guitar Hero, especially because the latter is more convenient; the problem is that now you can "make" music with Guitar Hero.
  • Boredom = Bad. As I said, if we have more free time, what DO we do with all this free time? Most people - at least it appears to me - search constant entertainment. You yourself say that boredom is bad (and in many cases it is). But that's not automatically true. Boredom leads to creativity. Boredom leads to experimentation. Boredom leads to quieting down. Boredom leads to introspection. You write a book, or paint, when you're bored. Best thoughts happen in the shower where there is virtually nothing else to do (it used to be when we sit on the throne, but this is obviously changing). One of the biggest fears I have is about AR and children (maybe one day I'll write something down). Boredom should not be discounted.
Now, the above is not contradicting what you're saying - not at all, as a matter of fact. I simply think that we've become way too reactive to everything and that's scary as hell.
 
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Somewhere in between like a smoker and not that hard. There are a lot of usual features I would miss. Have to get a new GPS unit for the car.
 
I've switched to a feature phone for a few months twice between my smartphones in the past and I could do it again if I had to.

I would say that you (specifically) are using your phone less when traveling because you're fully engaged in whatever you're doing over there. Whether it's that, going to a concert, taking a walk, etc, if you're actually into it, you probably don't care about picking up your phone up, even to document it. You're not following a book like so many people on Instagram/Facebook seem to be.

And yeah, boredom can be good. I don't think technology and it are a bad match either, but our smartphones aren't as good as a tool as our desktops and laptops were/are. Not that you can't do things on a smartphone, it's more like the fact that you most likely won't even start because there's always something else you could do instead.
 
Life without a smart phone would be like...life without k-pop. I’d live it with less frustration.

But life with a glass without liquor would like a broken pencil: pointless.
 
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Due to my mom's health, there is no way I could go without a phone. I guess it wouldn't have to be a smartphone though.
 
hmm, interesting post I have to admit, although I don't fully buy it. Some of my friends and relatives in Europe (mainly Italy, Switzerland, UK, Spain) report similar issues.
I'd frame it that the problem lies in two things:
  • Convenience. There is no doubt that smartphones are convenient. It's their biggest strength. You can pay your bills, GPS around, take pictures, listen to music, and even work (at least to a certain degree). We all want convenience because convenience is efficient, it frees up time to do other stuff. On a normal day I'd rather GPS, maybe avoiding traffic, rather than get lost and maybe get stuck 30 minutes in traffic. I'd rather have someone deliver the stuff I need rather than going to a Best Buy and have a horrible experience that takes time (and now even the Apple Store is a mess). The real issue is WHERE we use convenience and we DO with the convenience. I see two problems here. a) We extended convenience to social relationships, up to a point in which virtual relationships are more common than real life relationships (the younger the age, the truer it is). Stuff like the birthday reminders with automated "send your birthday wishes" are taking over more personal things, from a phone call to a card (or heck, even an email that took about 1 minute of actual writing). This makes us our own interactions mostly reactive to other people's lives. b) Freeing more time leads to the question "what do I do with it?" and a continuous inquiry of what are inconvenient things. The first element ("what do I do with it?") is in the next bullet point. The continuous inquiry is leading us to the concept that inconvenience is automatically bad, while in reality it can be a formative process. I say it half jokingly, but to play the guitar you have to use a guitar, not Guitar Hero, especially because the latter is more convenient; the problem is that now you can "make" music with Guitar Hero.
  • Boredom = Bad. As I said, if we have more free time, what DO we do with all this free time? Most people - at least it appears to me - search constant entertainment. You yourself say that boredom is bad (and in many cases it is). But that's not automatically true. Boredom leads to creativity. Boredom leads to experimentation. Boredom leads to quieting down. Boredom leads to introspection. You write a book, or paint, when you're bored. Best thoughts happen in the shower where there is virtually nothing else to do (it used to be when we sit on the throne, but this is obviously changing). One of the biggest fears I have is about AR and children (maybe one day I'll write something down). Boredom should not be discounted.
Now, the above is not contradicting what you're saying - not at all, as a matter of fact. I simply think that we've become way too reactive to everything and that's scary as hell.


Yeap... smartphones fills a gap and then they get addictive. But when you are doing things like working or traveling on things you like... you will not care about them. When I see myself using it too much is when I realize I am wasting time and I should be doing something else.
 
I use my phone heavily for home automation, and it’s really useful to have a “remote control for your house”

I also make extensive use of Apple Pay.

It’s also my main “computer” I do use it for office work and remote RDP for clients.

The security of Apple and having a nice camera that’s always on you.

Had it not were for these, I wouldn’t miss it really. I don’t care for Facebook and all the other garbage most people think a phone is for.

Also let’s not forget stores are saying save money with the app etc. Safeway has an “app price” and a “regular price” and you won’t get the app price unless you use the app.
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The days when I forget - that is, genuinely forget - to bring my smartphone with me, or sometimes simply "forget" to bring it with me, mean that I have the wonderful freedom of not being contactable at times. Nobody can reach me.

At times, this can be bliss.

Too bad my phone is my bus/train ticket. Forgetting it would result in a $500 fare evasion ticket. Hardly bliss in this regard.

I’m also looking for solutions to have my phone be my car keys. It’s already the front door and garage door key.
 
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Moments ago, I was thinking about it, and I came to conclusion, I am hooked up on my phone.


It has became so integral part of my life, that day without it seems impossible.


I believe that if I had to, it would be very, very difficult to stop using my smartphone. Forever. I had so hard time quitting smoking, and I think quitting smartphone would be equally hard.


What about you, MR? How hooked you think you are, honestly?

Really ?

I think the fact most using using AM or perhaps iCloud services says enough... I 'm probably least one here that use my smart-phone,, in fact a regular dumb-phone would be good right about now.

I do use apps though, probably the only real reason i got a smart phone..

These days, i think users bring it on themselves... Convenience prevails.. we are givin' all this security, and one place to store it all..'

Just makes it easier to loose everything really.. if you put all your eggs in one basket.. Although secure, i refuse to store CC info on a smart phone..... I guess i come too much from a privacy standpoint
 
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I’m from Brazil and during the first half of 2018 I was robbed walking on the street leaving a festival, since then I’ve been four months without a smartphone, it was very complicated because I work and use daily but it was liberating.
 
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