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HTC EVO 4G says hi with their SD memory card thats 32 gig and cost $200 bucks.

Oh wait...its the same size. ..... So whatever...you should be fine.

HTC EVO 4G says hi with the ability to bring more than one SD card.

Oh wait...you can bring multiple iPhones.....So whatever....you should be fine.

Besides, 200 bucks ? Where do you shop ? Apple ?
 
Dude I have a Nikon d40 with a sensor probably around 10x larger then the iphone 4g so I am aware when pictures are doctored.

This image is raw from the camera no editing at all.


This image below is edited which looks very simular to the iPhone pictures. over saturated.


Who agrees?

Who said, that the images wereraw? I don't believe Apple did. There is clearly some software processes hapenning. I believe that's what you would want with a camera phone. You don't want to edit raw camera phone pics, well maybe you do, but not the average consumer.
 
Does anyone know...Can the camera resolution be changed in the settings?
I've no need for 5 megapixels and don't want my photos taking up all that space and now that AT&T data is limited, I don't want to use up my monthly allotment sending photos. Ditto for videos. Obviously no one know for sure yet, so idle speculation is welcome!
tys
 
That's not exactly true. Without getting too technical, let me say that 30fps is just fine. Most stuff you see in the United States is 30fps or 24fps. (The p and i have to do with whether the frame is interlaced or progressive, and the iPhone will be progressive)

Uh, yes it is exactly true. Broadcast HD is 60fps. 720p60 or 1080i60. I was merely giving a frame of reference to the asker. I don't know where you get "Most stuff you see in the United States is 30fps or 24fps", because that is not true. Bluray is 24p, generally.

And I made no comments on whether it is "fine" or not. Still haven't.
 
already downscaled?

Does anyone know...Can the camera resolution be changed in the settings?
I've no need for 5 megapixels and don't want my photos taking up all that space and now that AT&T data is limited, I don't want to use up my monthly allotment sending photos. Ditto for videos. Obviously no one know for sure yet, so idle speculation is welcome!
tys

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe the current iPhones already downgrade the resolution of photos that you either email or send via MMS through the easy way. I think its down to VGA standards or something. If you want to send full resolution, you have to copy and paste the photo into the email.

Like i said, someone please correct me if i am wrong.

I guess that only addresses the one concern, but not the concern about storage space.
 
Does anyone know...Can the camera resolution be changed in the settings?
I've no need for 5 megapixels and don't want my photos taking up all that space and now that AT&T data is limited, I don't want to use up my monthly allotment sending photos. Ditto for videos. Obviously no one know for sure yet, so idle speculation is welcome!
tys

Fast Tap had a burst mode that takes lower res pictures, so if the option doesn't come standard, there'll probably be an app for that. ;)
 
As any pro photographer will tell you , 5 MP is still about 3 more MP than you need for quality images unless you are printing 8 x 10 or doing serious cropping and enlarging. I would rather have a noiseless 2 MP sensor that didn't need a flash than a 5 MP one with a flash that's going to take blown-out crap pictures in low light anyway.
 
It's still a phone camera with measly flash so i'm guessing it is no where near as good, but hoping it is one of the better on a phone. Though, I'm not getting the iPhone 4 unless it comes to Verizon (or an iPhone at all unless one comes to Verizon), so My opinion doesn't really matter haha

Haha! you must not read the posts very well...
 
Uh, yes it is exactly true. Broadcast HD is 60fps. 720p60 or 1080i60. I was merely giving a frame of reference to the asker. I don't know where you get "Most stuff you see in the United States is 30fps or 24fps", because that is not true. Bluray is 24p, generally.

And I made no comments on whether it is "fine" or not. Still haven't.

I get it from several years as a professional editor, working on many things broadcast on television. :)

A TV show like Lost, for example, is shot and edited 24fps. Your TV might display it 60i (if shown from a DVD, for example) but it is doing what's called a 3:2 pulldown - for each frame, 3 fields, then 2, then 3, etc. This gets it to 60 fields, or 30 frames per second.

As I said, without getting too technical, most stuff in the United States is 30fps or 24fps.
 
HTC EVO 4G says hi with the ability to bring more than one SD card.

Oh wait...you can bring multiple iPhones.....So whatever....you should be fine.

Besides, 200 bucks ? Where do you shop ? Apple ?

32GB Micro SD card is still $200, isn't that what it takes? It doesn't have 2 full size SD slots, right? My favorite store for flash memory doesn't even sell them, yet.
 
Who buys a phone for the camera quality anyways? It's about convenience. The majority of people aren't anything approaching even amateur photographer and are just taking pics at a concert or bar or party or wherever to put on facebook or flickr or photobucket. Its about the convenience of having camera with you for those moments you want to get a quick pic to share with your friends and family. Seriously, who's taking wedding photos with a cameraphone? If you're serious about photography, you're not concerned about camera quality in a phone. I'm glad they are making it better and more featureful, but let's be honest: cameraphones were never designed for anything nearing professional quality, so let's keep it in context. It's about convenience.
 
32GB Micro SD card is still $200, isn't that what it takes? It doesn't have 2 full size SD slots, right? My favorite store for flash memory doesn't even sell them, yet.

There is no need to buy 32GB card. At the moment, it makes better sense to buy two 16GB cards (which would cost about $60 total).
 
People are amazed when they see photos taken with my iPhone 3Gs.

Grrr got this same story in the cooker...

:)

When my friend first got his 3GS, he took a picture of a mutual friend in a well lit office. I took the same picture, well as close as possible with my 'prior' phone -- a Nokia XpressMusic (Free phone from T-Mobile.) -- anwyays, the 3Gs didn't look as good, which was a surprise for all of us! :p
 
It's in Cali, but it's not San Fran, it's closure, I forget the name of e place, but I know it starts with an "H" :D I'll remember the name later tonight.

You mean the Huntington? I was just there, it could be in the Japanese garden there. I'm not sure though.

That first photo was taken on the nude end of Baker Beach. It must have been a cold day!
 
Now, if anybody can get at the raw file from the iPhone, then we can start comparing.

This one makes me smile - camera RAW files ;) .

As others have said in various ways, if you care enough about picture quality to know about RAW - you're probably not going to be using a camera phone.

My phone camera is used for random, unexpected shots ("grab a picture of the price/spec sheet for this gizmo at Best Buy"). If I anticipate taking photographs, I'll bring my S90, G11 or EOS depending on how much bulk vs quality I think that I need for that day.
 
Apple sample:
154026-iphone_4_camera_2_500.jpg

Hmmm, yeah that 2nd Apple picture does look a bit like a cartoon really.

iphone4photonoddy.jpg
 
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