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In what way is it not helpful at all? It's very informative if nothing else.
He is comparing specs, not real world performance. I can do that myself without all the fillwords. He is also not using the apps I use and based on the thread title I expected something different.
 
This is my thought process too.

Retina iMac / MacBook / iPhone

The perfect setup with no device overkill or redundancy.

As it stands it looks like my setup will be Desktop / Macbook / iPad Air / iPhone

If they ever make the newsstand app work for OSX I'd ditch the iPad, 95% of what I do on it is read magazine subscriptions anyways.
 
As it stands it looks like my setup will be Desktop / Macbook / iPad Air / iPhone

If they ever make the newsstand app work for OSX I'd ditch the iPad, 95% of what I do on it is read magazine subscriptions anyways.

I don't feel as bad. iPhone 6/ apple watch coming/ air 2 / 5k iMac/ 2015 retina pro/ and now I'm going to get the rMP.

I have a serious problem.
 
As it stands it looks like my setup will be Desktop / Macbook / iPad Air / iPhone

If they ever make the newsstand app work for OSX I'd ditch the iPad, 95% of what I do on it is read magazine subscriptions anyways.

You dont need a newstand app. You can get the same material on the web. That's the crappiest App ever.
 
He is comparing specs, not real world performance. I can do that myself without all the fillwords. He is also not using the apps I use and based on the thread title I expected something different.

That'll be because you're not a professional ;)
 
3. Single Port. This may be an issue to some. However, go backwards in time and count how many times you've been charging your laptop and using a USB drive at the same time (that needs to stay connected)? For me it's been less than 10 times in the last five years.

I'm sitting here right now with my rMBP plugged in and my iPhone charging via USB. I also have an external mouse attached via USB. So yeah it's not at all rare to be charging your laptop and having another USB peripheral/device attached to it at the same time.

I don't see why Apple couldn't at least include a second USB-C port in the same place on the other side of the Macbook.
 
I played with a store model today and absolutely loved it, but I noticed it lagged when scrolling through the finder or going into full screen mode. The display models were on OS X 10.10.2 and I know 10.10.3 had graphic driver updates so I wonder if that was improved.

Did anyone else notice this?
 
I played with a store model today and absolutely loved it, but I noticed it lagged when scrolling through the finder or going into full screen mode. The display models were on OS X 10.10.2 and I know 10.10.3 had graphic driver updates so I wonder if that was improved.

Did anyone else notice this?

Didn't see that on the store displays and don't see it on mine. I did see that a lot on 11" MBAs and it drove me crazy so I don't think I'm just not seeing it.
 
I'm sitting here right now with my rMBP plugged in and my iPhone charging via USB. I also have an external mouse attached via USB. So yeah it's not at all rare to be charging your laptop and having another USB peripheral/device attached to it at the same time.

I don't see why Apple couldn't at least include a second USB-C port in the same place on the other side of the Macbook.

Rare? No. Necessary? Also no. Because two of your 3 connections have alternatives. An iPhone can sync wirelessly and charge via its own wall connection. In no way does it ever need to touch a computer anymore (in fact, it's honestly easier if it doesn't).

An external mouse is totally unnecessary considering how good Apple trackpads are. I'm not entirely certain how one could give up all the multitouch gestures but in the event you do, Bluetooth mice exist.

Ports are quickly becoming antiquated.
 
Another new unorthodox Apple product and it will turn out that screens are quickly becoming antiquated.

Sorry, we already got that news flash - where were you? Seriously, it's called the Apple Watch. Screens are out, haptic feedback is in. What's scary is that the step beyond that is implants. :eek:
 
Another new unorthodox Apple product and it will turn out that screens are quickly becoming antiquated.

Troll response will be troll. No substance.

But it's a fairly obvious observation. Cloud services are getting significantly better, wifi standards are improving and becoming faster, connectivity is more ubiquitous. All signs point to less ports.

Look at the iPad for example. No ports. Entire industries were built to allow functionality to a device with no ports. And they are thriving.

It's called innovation.

Henry Ford said it best. "If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."
 
Notorious "argument". That is your intellectual level. I leave you there.

Except I followed up my comment with substance and fact, of which you strategically removed from your quote of me. Had you left it in, your response wouldn't make any sense. It's called selective editing.
 
It is an answer to selective perception of reality.

Last response to this because I know I'm feeding the troll. It's pretty clear you can't respond to the facts I outlined. But I encourage you to try. I'll be listening.
 
Last response to this because I know I'm feeding the troll. It's pretty clear you can't respond to the facts I outlined. But I encourage you to try. I'll be listening.
Theoratically "troll calling" violates forum rules.
It is also uncalled for in this instance.

I recommend you edit that, before you collect your first warning.
 
I'm sitting here right now with my rMBP plugged in and my iPhone charging via USB. I also have an external mouse attached via USB. So yeah it's not at all rare to be charging your laptop and having another USB peripheral/device attached to it at the same time.

I don't see why Apple couldn't at least include a second USB-C port in the same place on the other side of the Macbook.

I think there are probably a miniscule fraction of 1% of ppl still using a USB mouse. Even most of those who still need a mouse (I don't see a valid use scenario beyond professional graphic design production) have a bluetooth enabled one.

Charging a mobile device on such a small capacity battery probably does not make much sense anyways. As laptops continue to get lighter, the days where ppl regularly charge mobile devices on laptops are probably numbered. I don't see how that would be a frequent usage scenario for 99% of the population either.

Ports in general are on their way out of the computer industry, :apple: is only expediting this process slightly. I bet that children who are being born today probably won't understand why there was ever things such as usb thumb drives or wired mice, just as most of us today don't really understand the existence of floppy drives and ethernet jacks on laptops.
 
3. Single Port. This may be an issue to some. However, go backwards in time and count how many times you've been charging your laptop and using a USB drive at the same time (that needs to stay connected)? For me it's been less than 10 times in the last five years.

All the time. Like 100% of the time when I am docked. When mobile, no but then again I usually dont have usb devices to use when mobile
 
I think there are probably a miniscule fraction of 1% of ppl still using a USB mouse. Even most of those who still need a mouse (I don't see a valid use scenario beyond professional graphic design production) have a bluetooth enabled one.

I bet that children who are being born today probably won't understand why there was ever things such as usb thumb drives or wired mice, just as most of us today don't really understand the existence of floppy drives and ethernet jacks on laptops.

This "future state" is further away than you think....

I think you'll find that a lot of people still prefer to use a mouse instead of a trackpad - even an Apple one, which is the best in the business.

Looking around my office, where everyone has laptops (nearly all Windows machines), I'd say that over 90% have a mouse connected, and the majority of these are wired mice. If they were using Macs, I would expect this number to be lower, but the practice of using mice is very much alive! I use my rMBP 15 happily without a mouse, but if you need to do a significant amount of "precision" pointing or object manipulation, e.g. graphic design, video editing etc, a mouse is a lot easier to use than a trackpad.

I think nearly everyone on this forum will be familiar with floppy disks and certainly Ethernet and understand what they were / are used for. I will nearly always use Ethernet if it is available, because it is still a *lot* faster on local networks than any current wi-fi standard, particularly in a busy environment where bandwidth is shared. Even in my home network, wired Ethernet (1 Gigabit) is about 7-10 times faster than wi-fi for file transfers. I can't reliably play HD video to my WD media player over wi-fi (2 rooms away from the router), but wired Ethernet does this with ease.


I'm also pretty sure that external storage devices such as flash storage are going to be with us for a couple of decades yet - especially for mobile users who travel outside of large population centres in technologically advanced countries. I don't see true "global" wireless cloud connectivity (presumably provided by satellites) as being a reality for a long time.
 
I'm sitting here right now with my rMBP plugged in and my iPhone charging via USB. I also have an external mouse attached via USB. So yeah it's not at all rare to be charging your laptop and having another USB peripheral/device attached to it at the same time.

I don't see why Apple couldn't at least include a second USB-C port in the same place on the other side of the Macbook.

Re your first paragraph, I'm not sure that it's very common to routinely charge the phone from the MacBook, don't most people just use the charger that comes with the phone? And I've never personally seen anyone use an external mouse on a MacBook (though of course it does happen)

And re the second paragraph, where does the headphone port then move to?
 
Re your first paragraph, I'm not sure that it's very common to routinely charge the phone from the MacBook, don't most people just use the charger that comes with the phone? And I've never personally seen anyone use an external mouse on a MacBook (though of course it does happen)

And re the second paragraph, where does the headphone port then move to?

I don't know where the phone charger is. I always use the lightning cable plugged into whatever device I'm using. Now is the iMac, but previously was the rMBP.

I always use a bluetooth mouse with portables unless I'm travelling light and just on a plane, or browsing. Great as the trackpad is compared to IBM nubbins and alternatives, there are some things you just can't do without a mouse.
 
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