OutThere said:I'm drawing blanks here....care to fill me in?
War of 1812.
Spanish American War (The Alamo, specifically).
OutThere said:I'm drawing blanks here....care to fill me in?
StealthRider said:Britain invaded us in 1812, not the other way around. The Civil War, being a civil war, would tend not to count...
What's the second?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812 said:The war formally began on June 18, 1812 with the U.S. declaration of war. The United States launched invasions of the Canadian provinces in 1812 and 1813, but the borders were successfully defended by British and North American Indian forces.
iGary thanks for sharing.iGary said:
Before you jump to conclusions, you might want to consider the differences in our legal systems. We have the laws. Getting the criminals into prison is another issue.MacRy said:Gun related deaths in the UK (population 60,000,000) in 2002 = 81
Gun related deaths in the US (population 295,000,000) in 2002 = 30,242
That's what's wrong with your citizens owning such weapons and your 2nd Amendment.
sushi said:Before you jump to conclusions, you might want to consider the differences in our legal systems. We have the laws. Getting the criminals into prison is another issue.
Obviously you don't know how bad our system is over on this side of the pond!MacRy said:That is such a poor argument. Without easy access to guns there wouldn't be anywhere near as many gun related deaths i'll wager.
sushi said:Remember guns don't kill. People do!
MacRy said:People with guns! That hackneyed phrase means very little in my opinion. Any moron can pump a round into another person without any thought of the consequences.
mkrishnan said:It is, sadly, not that much harder for a moron to put a knife into someone's flesh and end their life that way.
Most of the gun related deaths in the U.S. involve criminals using unlicensed guns to commit crimes. Legally licensed guns are rarely used to commit crimes or kill people.OutThere said:By those statistics, if the UK was the same population as the US they would have had 397 gun related deaths in 2002.
397 vs. 30,242
Says something about gun law.
Lau said:My point isthat based on the way I feel about it, I would say the gun would make it easier to kill someone, as it removes the physical connection between the killer and the recipient.
The military had the same idea centuries ago - hence the development of weapons that kill from further and further away. Fists->Stones->Swords->Bow and arrow->Catapult->Rifle->Howitzer->Aircraft->Missile.Lau said:Actually, I was discussing this the other day with a friend (in a non-serial killer way, honest). We both agreed that if we were had to shoot someone we could probably do it - you would pull a trigger from a distance away and they would die. But we both agreed it would be really difficult to stab someone, because you'd have to actually poke the knife into them and you'd be really aware of what you were doing. In some ways, i would say I would find it harder to punch someone really hard in the face (like breaking their face hard) than I would shoot them. And that isn't just because I'm a girl who can't punch, before you ask.
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Nickygoat said:The military had the same idea centuries ago - hence the development of weapons that kill from further and further away. Fists->Stones->Swords->Bow and arrow->Catapult->Rifle->Howitzer->Aircraft->Missile.
Most people can stomach the thought of killing someone from a distance. It becomes like a video game. It's up close that is the hard bit. Plus it gives the other guy a better chance of killing you.
There was a fascinating programme last year looking at this. They found that about 95% of soldiers in WW2 didn't kill anyone, or didn't even come close to hitting anyone, in close quarter combat.
Lau said:Interesting. I suppose the guy that presses the button that drops the bomb that kills 2000 people might be slightly less inclined to kill 2000 people individually with a blunt object.
Or drive a car while impaired and kill someone.mkrishnan said:It is, sadly, not that much harder for a moron to put a knife into someone's flesh and end their life that way.
Dm84 said:Most of the gun related deaths in the U.S. involve criminals using unlicensed guns to commit crimes. Legally licensed guns are rarely used to commit crimes or kill people.
Drugs are much more of a problem in the U.S. than guns, and drugs are outright illegal.MacRy said:But they have to get the guns from somewhere and my bet is that they start out as legal firearms.
Lau said:Actually, I was discussing this the other day with a friend