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It works because the apps knew you are using iPhone 4!

Apple did great thing on the upgrade, millions apps upgrade by the tool apple provided in about one year time. but for billions website, 2 years is conservative. Especially apple also is trying to let ppl surf Internet via TV! How could he make both happens. Don't tell me a retina tv.

It works because the apps are sensitive on the resolution independency. If an app wouldnt care it can get messed up on iPhone 4 very easy; I had to learn that myself in some project.

But could you please send me one screenshot of a web page where you have problems out of the billion pages you mentioned ?
 
But you are the kind of guy to "pop out" big critical comments without the background to support them.

The answer to all of this was already given when the iphone 4 did a pixel-doubling. "Old" content was doubled on both dimensions, "new" content got to leverage the updated resolution. Same with a QXGA ipad, but guess what? Web pages are viewed through Safari, and Safari can decide whether to 2x the page so it has the same physical appearance as XGA ipads, or to 2x pixel content but render fonts more cleanly, or to not magnify the page at all so you get 4x the content area in a single view (just like the iphone 4). Since Apple is controlling the pixel scaling in both apps and in Safari, there is *no problem* in releasing *any* resolution at any doubling.

If Apple doesn't make a QXGA ipad, it will *not* be because of content formatting.
This is correct.

The way Apple implements their retina display iPhone and presumably next iPad is not the same as how a large monitor implements a high resolution. An iPad with 2048x1536 pixel resolution is not the same as your large monitor with 2048x1536 resolution. That iPad is still effectively just 1024x768 screen resolution, but it uses 4 pixels per point so that what you have traditionally thought of as a pixel is rendered more sharply.

All existing web content is automatically and instantly fully compatible with a retina display. In fact, it would look absolutely identical in every regard except that Safari will enhance the fonts (and other webs styling elements) for you to take advantage of the additional sharpness. Static content, like images, will automatically be doubled so that they appear the same size, relative to neighboring fonts and elements, that they do on non-retina displays. But to your eyebals, they will look identical on either screen. They don't get pixelated or distorted; anyone thinking that doesn't understand that the only reason that happens on your monitor is because you're also increasing the real-world size of that image, and that helps your eyes more easily see the pixels (which you would then think is blocky).
 
IGZO panel manufactured by Sharp to produce 330 dots per inch on an iPad this year. Whether that is in March or Sept/Oct I do not know.

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It works because the apps are sensitive on the resolution independency. If an app wouldnt care it can get messed up on iPhone 4 very easy; I had to learn that myself in some project.

But could you please send me one screenshot of a web page where you have problems out of the billion pages you mentioned ?

Easy, just try this page on your sweet 27 mac, full screen, (real full screen, no blank on left and right of your safari). Then check the mac rumour logo, check your lovely aircraft under your name, check the quote icon, check the smiley.

Yes! It is problem for me.

You might say it is perfect by default size with some blank left and right, ok, try it in 1/3 screen like a iPad , hopes the word is readable and the smilliy looks nice.
 
Nobody tell this guy that they already make displays greater than 1920x1080. His head might explode. :rolleyes:
 
IGZO panel manufactured by Sharp to produce 330 dots per inch on an iPad this year. Whether that is in March or Sept/Oct I do not know.

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IGZO panel manufactured by Sharp to produce 330 dots per inch this year.

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Nobody tell this guy that they already make displays greater than 1920x1080. His head might explode. :rolleyes:
Go back to keep playing your angry bird, you had learned enough for your capable of understanding.
 
Your insults would be a lot more hurtful if you could construct an English sentence properly. ;)
I realised my insult did just what I want by your reaction.

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This is correct.

The way Apple implements their retina display iPhone and presumably next iPad is not the same as how a large monitor implements a high resolution. An iPad with 2048x1536 pixel resolution is not the same as your large monitor with 2048x1536 resolution. That iPad is still effectively just 1024x768 screen resolution, but it uses 4 pixels per point so that what you have traditionally thought of as a pixel is rendered more sharply.

All existing web content is automatically and instantly fully compatible with a retina display. In fact, it would look absolutely identical in every regard except that Safari will enhance the fonts (and other webs styling elements) for you to take advantage of the additional sharpness. Static content, like images, will automatically be doubled so that they appear the same size, relative to neighboring fonts and elements, that they do on non-retina displays. But to your eyebals, they will look identical on either screen. They don't get pixelated or distorted; anyone thinking that doesn't understand that the only reason that happens on your monitor is because you're also increasing the real-world size of that image, and that helps your eyes more easily see the pixels (which you would then think is blocky).

Double pic smoothly? It is possible for certain format, like flash. Maybe easier for one popular format like jpg, but for a web with jpgs, gifs, pngs, bmps, icons.....not today.
 
IGZO panel manufactured by Sharp to produce 330 dots per inch this year.

Apple invested a huge amount of cash into the Sharp facility that produces these displays. Do you believe they did that because they want to help Sharp with their tablets? Get a grip on reality. I smell a troll.

Additionally, Samsung is likely to produce a retina style display this year. My guess is those two companies know something you don't. But maybe you can talk to the CEO's, I'm sure they will value your opinion. :rolleyes

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Apple invested a huge amount of cash into the Sharp facility that produces these displays. Do you believe they did that because they want to help Sharp with their tablets? Get a grip on reality. I smell a troll.

Additionally, Samsung is likely to produce a retina style display this year. My guess is those two companies know something you don't. But maybe you can talk to the CEO's, I'm sure they will value your opinion. :rolleyes

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Oh, sorry, I didn't realised that Tim told you they have invested a Hugh amount of cash already, and it is for iPad3 display. It must be true if a CEO said it.

Samsung even can not do a retina display phone! Of course they want to produce a retina display.....for a phone.

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What's already been said in this thread is enough - I don't need to say anymore. OP - maybe just let this one go.

If Tim Cook gets up on stage at the keynote and says "I know you all wanted a Retina display, and we'd have loved to give it to you, but because billions of webpages aren't ready for it and can't display such a high resolution properly, we're going to have to wait. That said, check out the fancy new cameras!"

Well, then you can come back in this thread and laugh as you've proved everyone wrong.
 
Apple invested a huge amount of cash into the Sharp facility that produces these displays. Do you believe they did that because they want to help Sharp with their tablets? Get a grip on reality. I smell a troll.

Additionally, Samsung is likely to produce a retina style display this year. My guess is those two companies know something you don't. But maybe you can talk to the CEO's, I'm sure they will value your opinion. :rolleyes

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But I agree with you that, if Samsung can produce a retina display, they will produce a retina display tablet very soon. They are the kind of guy who just produce anything they are capable to produce, nothing more. They did great on the TV, but still not get the respect from me.

Apple will say, it's not ready. .....and when it is ready, apple alway say he bring it to you first.
 
What's already been said in this thread is enough - I don't need to say anymore. OP - maybe just let this one go.

If Tim Cook gets up on stage at the keynote and says "I know you all wanted a Retina display, and we'd have loved to give it to you, but because billions of webpages aren't ready for it and can't display such a high resolution properly, we're going to have to wait. That said, check out the fancy new cameras!"

Well, then you can come back in this thread and laugh as you've proved everyone wrong.

You knew Apple so well, before 2010, Steve must said that "I know you all wanted a Video call, and we'd have loved to give it to you, but because they are not ready, we're going to have to wait. That said, check out the fancy new 3G tec"

Guess what? He didn't.

And one more thing, as a adult, keep your word:I don't need to say anymore
 
Apologies to all who call me OP

OP = noob in my country, which I thought is international. Just realised it is short for original poster.


Sorry, again.
 
I can't understand why so many ppl think that the ipad3 will have retina display, it's not gonna happen!

Many industries require such a resolution, and the resolution does not require much GPU power in the 2D range (most images are 2D images). Not to mention, that Apple uses already retina type displays in current products.
 
We shall all see the truth in the upcoming iPad 3 but with the Resolution Independent APIs built into iOS, the webkit in safari should be able to properly scale/smooth such web elements to make it right on a retina iPad screen.
 
OP, this is what will happen with non-optimized webpages on a retina display:

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There will be more pixels but you will see the exact same. You will simply have 4 pixels in the space of one.
 
OP, this is what will happen with non-optimized webpages on a retina display:

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There will be more pixels but you will see the exact same. You will simply have 4 pixels in the space of one.

Exactly!

Resize a picture to 150x150 or something like that. View on iPhone 3G/3GS etc. then view on iPhone 4/4S. Works just fine!

Retina displays to not work like increasing the resolution on a monitor with everything getting smaller.
 
Ask apple to double dimensions of a pic or make a 480p video to became a 720p by just simply "double" it. Guess what? Even apple says no. So does Steve if he come back.

Hope you understand who is the pop out guy now.

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You are seriously missing how pixel doubling works. There is NO interpolation, NO extrapolation, NO distortion *whatsoever*

Where does apple say no? Apple is *already* doing this with the iphone 4. Please explain why you can't see this, because I find it intriguing that you can't understand it.
 
My 27" iMac begs to differ about larger resolution being an issue with websites.
 
My 27" iMac begs to differ about larger resolution being an issue with websites.

OK, look, we're talking about *** IPADS *** not regular computers. Your non-iOS computer (alias iMac) does *NOT* pixel double. A new QXGA iPad *could* pixel double if necessary given that the iPhone *does* pixel double under old/new content circumstances. OS X does *not* pixel double, and is *not* resolution independent, so of COURSE your iMac has an issue. You are just as confused about the matter as the OP.
 
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OK, look, we're talking about *** IPADS *** not regular computers. Your non-iOS computer (alias iMac) does *NOT* pixel double. A new QXGA iPad *could* pixel double if necessary given that the iPhone *does* pixel double under old/new content circumstances. OS X does *not* pixel double, and is *not* resolution independent, so of COURSE your iMac has an issue. You are just as confused about the matter as the OP.

You read what I said wrong. My iMac doesn't have an issue. Not all websites are designed for larger resolution displays, regardless of pixel doubling. My 27" iMac (which has a similar resolution to what would be an iPad retina display) can view websites perfectly fine (even ones designed for 800x600). The iPad should handle this fine.
 
Let's say the OP is somehow right.

Even if this is the case, the ipad could still help drive demand for more websites supporting such high resolution, in turn revolutionising the whole industry. Apple can be the pathfinder in this aspect. Why must it wait until the time is ripe?
 
OP, this is what will happen with non-optimized webpages on a retina display:

Image

There will be more pixels but you will see the exact same. You will simply have 4 pixels in the space of one.

You are showing how a low resolution pic displayed on a high resolution device. It not gonna make things sharp but same.

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You read what I said wrong. My iMac doesn't have an issue. Not all websites are designed for larger resolution displays, regardless of pixel doubling. My 27" iMac (which has a similar resolution to what would be an iPad retina display) can view websites perfectly fine (even ones designed for 800x600). The iPad should handle this fine.

iMac can handle this by showing the web in a very narrow area in the middle of screen. (which I hated, but some one ok with it). iPad can not handle it like this because it is only 10'', even you will not like it.

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Let's say the OP is somehow right.

Even if this is the case, the ipad could still help drive demand for more websites supporting such high resolution, in turn revolutionising the whole industry. Apple can be the pathfinder in this aspect. Why must it wait until the time is ripe?

Because Apple never did, so they wouldn't.( we estimate future from the past, not guessing, right?)

I suppose only PC with retina display can bring the revolution.
 
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