THIS. Every link to another page on the internet doesn't have a blue box around it... or at least it hasn't since 1995 or so. There's no need to do so now in iOS 7.
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A small change to fix one of the biggest complaints about iOS 7
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THIS. Every link to another page on the internet doesn't have a blue box around it... or at least it hasn't since 1995 or so. There's no need to do so now in iOS 7.
The internet is not a device. Links are not actions to be taken on particular application. Fairly different use cases and designs. (Plus, links are underlined in the vast majority of cases, too.)
I feel like sometimes people are so opinionated or caught up in their own world that they forget that SOME people don't know that colored text means you can click it or that haven't used iOS device before. Making it with the borders just makes it easier for everyone and isn't that what Apple is about? Being able to pick up a device and just be able to use it. Not only is it easier but it's cutting off names in messages ( I know in beta 4 they put "short name" as default to fix it but that just felt like a band-aid for something that needs stitches) okay maybe I'm going to far I'm sure most people will be able to figure it out....eventually lol but I mean come on! Look at settings! That's garbage!
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The back button you posted looks pretty darn ugly. ~_~ The Action "button" though looks Okay, although I like how it looks now.
EDIT: Has anybody ever once thought that maybe the back buttons look like that now because you can swipe to go back now? -_- jeez.
EDIT: Has anybody ever once thought that maybe the back buttons look like that now because you can swipe to go back now? -_- jeez.
"Software" is not a device and on a mobile device, the separation between local software app and internet is mostly semantics. People are becoming conditioned to understand that a link to somewhere else, whether that's local or online, is mostly irrelevant in an always-connected world.
Additionally, of the sites I visit, a great number don't use underlined links... it's more common in forums and on sites where the link in question isn't blue or doesn't stand out from the rest of the text.
You are still overlooking a basic concept where a link to other content is not the same as a control or an actionable item in an operating system. The whole thing about blurring the lines between web content and software and operating systems hasn't quite worked out well (at least not so far), so that doesn't exactly make that aspect of it a good argument at all.
No I'm not and I don't think the end user is potentially concerned with the difference, either. In fact, I think the inconsistency could be detrimental going forward. The "Settings" section of Facebook is full of "links" that are controls or actionable items, for example. Someone new to an iPhone would have no trouble with the Settings app following a similar convention, etc..
Actually, Apple is well known for taking concepts that didn't work so well for others and turning them into home runs so it's not a bad argument at all. If devs follow Apple's lead then it could work out quite well.
So why aren't things like "Save"or "Apply", links? Why on this very site full of links things like "Submit" or "Reply" aren't simply links? There are things with well established usability that works well for many reasons and it doesn't mean they have to be changed just because they've been a standard for too long and therefore aren't "cool" anymore. If they can be improved, perhaps, but stripping a button of everything but it's text label and then still putting it to work as a button only improves aesthetics at best but certainly not usability which is the primary role of controls like buttons.
Actually, strip the text off those buttons and tell me how valuable they are. All that's needed is text (OR an easily understood graphic, but not both), if it's recognizable as something to interact with by color or context. No one needs a "faux" button behind the "like" button on Facebook, to borrow another example from there.
Even the people on this forum complaining about this change are successfully using their phones, still.
I hate the elimination of buttons. It dramatically reduces usability, IMO.
On the other hand, Apple management has decided that it must have a resolution-independent OS and application platform that scales to any resolution and screen size without requiring developers to modify their apps. Management also wants a UI that can be voice controlled (i.e., there must be commands for users to speak) for car, TV, and other displays. To make both a reality, Apple has got to use resolution-independent (i.e., vector-based) interface elements like text and eliminate resolution-dependent interface elements like bitmap-based buttons.
One potential issue I see with the op's proposal is that some buttons (boxes) would have to be much wider than others. The buttons look decent when they are equally sized, but I suspect having two very different sized boxes on the screen would look a bit awkward.
On the other hand, Apple management has decided that it must have a resolution-independent OS and application platform that scales to any resolution and screen size without requiring developers to modify their apps. Management also wants a UI that can be voice controlled (i.e., there must be commands for users to speak) for car, TV, and other displays. To make both a reality, Apple has got to use resolution-independent (i.e., vector-based) interface elements like text and eliminate resolution-dependent interface elements like bitmap-based buttons.
One potential issue I see with the op's proposal is that some buttons (boxes) would have to be much wider than others. The buttons look decent when they are equally sized, but I suspect having two very different sized boxes on the screen would look a bit awkward.
On iOS 6 the settings button on the same page was nearly as long which pushed the title of the page to the left side.
I personally think adding buttons would ruin the overall look. I like the text buttons. It's better when they put an arrow on there and I genuinely believe people will understand what to do. It's not rocket science.
its not about whether or not we can use it all or get used to it--of course we can--it's about whether or not it's actually better. Perhaps it might look better (and even that is subjective) but usability wise there's definitely no improvement and more of a step backwards. So if we purely do it for looks...OK I guess that's "cool", but "coolness" doesn't always translate to actually being better in any useful way.
I gotta wonder about users afflicted by color blindness. Does the new way of doing things make it much harder for them to use the OS?
well, it certainly doesn't make it better for anyone as far as usability goes, and would more than likely make it worse for quite a few. Mostly form over function.
Agreed. A lot of iOS 7 is form over function. I like a lot of what they are doing on the home/lock screen. But apps like photos just feel wrong. All that white and having to tap one for the screen to go black. It just feels very jarring. This is whats scary about iOS 7. Some apps just don't feel right while others are really nice like camera, messages, phone feel much nicer IMO.
Thank you to the creator of the post for it!!
As he says, BLUE TEXT that is the SAME SIZE as THE REST, makes text to crop in the bar and is confusing. iOS 7 would look better if:
- There were a sort buttons (like your mockup) with smaller text that the principal.
- Or, if they don't want to make the OS "less clean and simple", at least, they should differenciate the blue clickable text, by making it smaller that the principal text.
Due to the bigger size of the blue text, the words in the middle not always are shown complete, and that is a poorer experience than in iOS 6.
I hope Apple will make some changes in the final release...
Thank you
As he says, BLUE TEXT that is the SAME SIZE as THE REST, makes text to crop in the bar and is confusing. iOS 7 would look better if:
- There were a sort buttons (like your mockup) with smaller text that the principal.
- Or, if they don't want to make the OS "less clean and simple", at least, they should differenciate the blue clickable text, by making it smaller that the principal text.
Due to the bigger size of the blue text, the words in the middle not always are shown complete, and that is a poorer experience than in iOS 6.
I hope Apple will make some changes in the final release...
Thank you
Just to respond to this Bug reports are exactly for feedback. It's the only process there is for change. These are just 3 of the drop down menus in the apple bug report system:
UI/Usability: A cosmetic issue, or an issue with the Usability of an application.
Feature (new): Request for a new feature.
Enhancement: Request for an enhancement to an existing feature.
That suggests Apple wants comments from testers. If enough people put in a report, on their end it flags up as a big issue for change.
Now, Apple listening to feedback and doing something about it is another thing entirely!
I've reported 4 different calendar issues (as the iOS 7 calendar is a downgrade) and they all have been marked as duplicate calls and nothing done about them
Actually, your opinion that "there's definitely no improvement and more of a step backwards" is just that, an opinion. It remains to be seen how it is received by the public at large but I really doubt anyone will have any more problem than they did before and it being a step backward is just as subjective considering we're talking about a purely cosmetic change where the new way falls in line with modern conventions that the general public also has no problem using.
That's exactly the point--purely cosmetic change that does in fact take away from usability (that part is rather obvious--just because most of us can still use it or at least get used to it all doesn't actually change that). Form over function.
Actually, you haven't provided any real evidence that it's obvious. That will happen upon release when it either succeeds or fails. I realize you and others in a vocal minority are predisposed to prefer faux button graphics but as you admit, it's a purely cosmetic change and cosmetic differences do NOT change the function at all. It may change perception but a few forum posts are not enough, this forum is not an accurate cross section of the target audience.
Usability isn't about whether people get used to something or not or if it succeeds or fails, it's related to established concepts when it comes to interface design and even cognitive science in general.
To a human mind quickly looking at something a control that is with borders around it is very quickly and easily identifiable among text and other items on the screen vs the same control that looks just like the rest of the text around it with the main and sometimes only differentiator being the color. Of course the difference for most is minute, and the brain gets used to it, but that still doesn't change the fact that in its foundation it is something that is less usable (again, in the context of interface design and even general cognitive science).
It might be more aesthetically pleasing or at least fitting with a particular design--and that is the main subjective part of it all--but that's separate from it's function.
None of this is to really say it's some sort of a failure and that people overall will really be strongly affected by it (although some likely will be to one degree or another for different reasons).
My friend .. Apple reads everything .. I had posted about the call buttons before a week and now see apple did them right in beta 4 .. If its better they will change it .. So if u like it report it apple will definately change then