Good point. And it was mscriv who forced Koodauw to play it, which is kind of ironic.
I'm going to YAY this because I'm on it, and how can a mission I'm on not be awesome??
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[A] The Agency - GAME OVER -- SPIES WIN
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Good point. And it was mscriv who forced Koodauw to play it, which is kind of ironic.
I'm going to YAY this because I'm on it, and how can a mission I'm on not be awesome??
I finished it by saying the simpless solution is that only DP is the spy in the team 2, but looking at the order of ppl, mscriv implications and everything I could work on. That's why I voted against his team, I think he's a spy. that's all
Looking at the order table and who Mscriv gave the cards, for me if there's a spy in the first team, it's QOS or Koodauw, wood and mscriv in the same bag, because of what happened in the second team all card wise. Now yes QOS could be a spy and she could have voted fail, but you put her in your team.... so most likely you are the spy...
We need an easy link to the teams and who received the plot cards! My memory stinks and going back through all the posts is rough!
Okay, I understand. Thanks for further clarifying your thoughts. I've explained my reasoning for mission 1. My fellow agents will either believe me or they won't. Sadly, it looks like the majority of you don't. I have a strong feeling that if we put this team through and don't use the No Confidence that it will fail and the spies will get another point.
Wouldn't it make sense for us to put this team through and use No Confidence when we get some plot cards? And to confirm twietee's assertion, I would certainly No Confidence my own team.
I wouldn't be ready to throw out some names for my team until then.
I wouldn't be ready to throw out some names for my team until then.
Here you go - mission summary for you.We need an easy link to the teams and who received the plot cards! My memory stinks and going back through all the posts is rough!
Mission 1
Team Leader: mscriv
Team: Koodauw, WoodNUFC, Queen of Spades
Mission Votes
yay: 6 twietee, Moyank24, Koodauw, Queen of Spades, WoodNUFC, TechGod
nay: 2 FenrisMoonlight, Don't panic
No Vote: Sythas
Plots
Establish Confidence -> WoodNUFC (mscriv is agent)
Eavesdrop -> Koodauw (DP is Agent)
No Confidence -> Queen of Spades
Mission Succeeded! 3x Success
Mission 2
Team Leader: Koodauw
Team: WoodNUFC, Queen of Spades, Don't panic, mscriv
Mission Votes
yay: 6 Sythas, mscriv, Moyank24, WoodNUFC, Don't panic, Queen of Spades
nay: 1 FenrisMoonlight
No Vote: TechGod, twietee
Plots
Strong Leader -> DP
Strong Leader -> mscriv
Under Surveillance -> WoodNUFC
Mission Failed! 3x Success, 1x Failure
Cards still in play
Queen of Spades: No Confidence
mscriv: Strong Leader
Don't panic: Strong Leader
One of the points of putting it through is to get (hopefully helpful) plots and then decide whether or not to complete the mission.
Edit: Ninja'd by QOS!!
And thanks Fenris!
TBH I don't think
Yeah we can no confidence it afterwards but any of the clearing cards going to that team just gives us another 2 person link to distrust - personally think a check on Koodauw or Wood would be more useful to us but its hard to do if they are not in the team.
@Don't panic if you have some master plan for that team choice that you feel helps us I'm not seeing it. I can kinda see you want cleared people from the end of the list so that you can keep them on every team afterwards - would have made sense for an initial team choice but at this stage im not convinced its going to be helpful.
I don't think it does for the reasons I've already given. I think with DP team choice, several of the clearing cards wouldn't be as useful as they could be - and certainly couldn't help clear either Wood or Koodauw to give us more confidence in either of those groups which would be real nice to have around now.
Yeah we can no confidence it afterwards but any of the clearing cards going to that team just gives us another 2 person link to distrust - personally think a check on Koodauw or Wood would be more useful to us but its hard to do if they are not in the team.
@Don't panic if you have some master plan for that team choice that you feel helps us I'm not seeing it. I can kinda see you want cleared people from the end of the list so that you can keep them on every team afterwards - would have made sense for an initial team choice but at this stage im not convinced its going to be helpful.
The strategy is sound, but as I asked before, is this the right team to do that with? We have no information at all regarding 3 of the 4 team members.
And, look at the game order.
The 3 unknowns are at the bottom of the list. The only one of them who could tell us something about one of the already "cleared" folks would be Twietee who could Eavesdrop on me. With such an emphasis being placed on the "chain of trust" how is this team going to establish that? Open Up could be useful if given to QOS, but who do we trust enough for her to open up to? Eavesdrop could be given to QOS to double clear Don't Panic, but if DP is a spy he'll never give it to her unless they are both spies and that seems highly unlikely. If DP is a spy then both A Close Eye and Establish Confidence are useless because he will just give the cards to one of the spies he put on the team. I know many of you don't believe me, but we have to consider how many different ways this could go wrong. We have three primary suspects at this point, DP, QOS, and Me. DP and I have been vouched for through the use of a plot card. With what's at stake is it wise to allow any of us to lead a team all the way through the mission phase?
The only option I see is this... at some point we are going to have to trust someone to be telling the truth. That person might have some partial evidence backing up their claim or it may just be blind trust. Either way, I'd like as much information as possible before I have to make that choice.
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hmm, what's wrong with that team? QoS could check on DP (and hence Koodauw). I could check on mscriv (and hence Wood). Not much more possible (thanks to you not giving QoS the EC but we shouldn't discuss this anymore). If we count the Spy plot (and cancelling the mission to use it) there are a lot of possibitlies that could help us somewhat. This game isn't promoting 100% clearance so it'll always be a bit of a guessing game.
Koodauw in for Fenris would have been my only suggestion, although I haven't heard from him (Koodauw) for a long time either.
but we shouldn't discuss this anymore). If we count the Spy plot (and cancelling the mission to use it) there are a lot of possibitlies that could help us somewhat. This game isn't promoting 100% clearance so it'll always be a bit of a guessing game. Koodauw in for Fenris would have been my only suggestion, although I haven't heard from him (Koodauw) for a long time either.
Looks like I missed a lot. First, I can tell you for sure DP is an agent. You don't have to believe me, but I know.
Second, don't the spies need two failure votes to fail this mission? Wouldn't it make sense to at least go forward with it and get the cards? We can always call it off as long as QOS isn't a spy.
Also, why wasn't I on the team?
Second, don't the spies need two failure votes to fail this mission? Wouldn't it make sense to at least go forward with it and get the cards? We can always call it off as long as QOS isn't a spy.
Also, why wasn't I on the team?
Yeah I think your right for the 2 fail vote... Then I would go on almost the same team, the second one and Hopefully we will rightly trust Wood then
QoS checking on DP would double check DP and potentially rule that out. However, since QoS is one of the possible suspects - if she is a spy she could lie about the results.hmm, what's wrong with that team? QoS could check on DP (and hence Koodauw). I could check on mscriv (and hence Wood). Not much more possible (thanks to you not giving QoS the EC
Koodauw in for Fenris would have been my only suggestion, although I haven't heard from him (Koodauw) for a long time either.
Nope - its only mission 4 where 2 fail votes are needed.Yeah I think your right for the 2 fail vote... Then I would go on almost the same team, the second one and Hopefully we will rightly trust Wood then
We've had to correct folks about this multiple times now. Interesting?
Eh, not really. I was one of those that was corrected and I can tell you that from the very first game I thought it was every turn starting from the 4th that the spies needed 2 votes. I'll confess that I just skimmed the rules, and I bet I'm not the only one.
Sorry, I might be missing it, but I'm not seeing a bolded list anywhere... I saw where DP @mentioned a bunch of people last night, but is that the team we are voting on? I've been in meetings all day so I haven't given the thread a thorough reading today.
Could someone point me to the post with the team?
Could someone point me to the post with the team?
Here's DP's post with the team - I guess there not actually bolded but its the team we're voting on.
Thanks, Fenris. That's the list I saw, but I wasn't sure if there had been changes that I was missing.
I vote nay