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i rarely agree with Clevin...but i think i'm gonna side with what he's saying on this one. for some applications (email, slide shows, calendars, word processing) web apps maybe entirely reasonable. others like Photoshop, Maya, Final Cut and similar products i don't see how they could be optimized to be web based. i know flickr incorporates piknic as their online image editing app but it's only good for a quick touch up and not much else.

all that paired with ISPs busying trying to throttle and cap bandwidth going web based may not even be all that great of a solution.
 
I didn't say google apps, I said Apple's MobileMe apps. You are confusing implementation issues with one set of apps with what is possible with a set of technologies.
Im not sure there are any significant difference in those techs of items i listed, and the one in mobileme.

what tech in mobileme is so new that no free service is available? i would appreciate a list if you can. Thanks
But the point is the potential is there - there isn't much in Outlook, say, that can't be at least approximated with a Javascript app; Outlook just processes data, after all. And with the coming improvements in JavaScript engines the revolution will be later on.

The only thing that bother me is the proprietary stuff in here. Moving away from things like Flash is great - using Apple-specific technology isn't so much.
I have no problem with potential. I just think the expectation expressed here is too high.

PS. I think adobe is openning up flash. but i need to check my source first.
No, HTML 5 got its first W3C Working Draft in January (10th, IIRC) 2008, even though the WHATWG had published drafts of the same document (with the exception of the header) going back to 2004. It's hardly a new document.

I just think we are too hyped into unrealistic expectation here.

Javascript is near it peak in current OS and hardware conditions, ECMAscript ed4 is still far away from all browsers, firefox is doing 1.8, webkit is still doing 1.5 with partial 1.6. Hyped squirrelfish only improves speed by 46% so far, actionmonkey is still no where near its first form. even when finish, how faster can they get? remember that 46% improvement of squirrelfish only provides less than 1 ms improvement in real life.

HTML 5 isn't nearly ready, maybe its old, but how many items webkit implemented? out of about 70 items, webkit implemented 9, gecko implemented 10, opera implemented almost 40.

And we should be realistic about how much it can do? people shouldn't treat HTML 5 as some sort of second coming and so is CSS3.
 
i rarely agree with Clevin...but i think i'm gonna side with what he's saying on this one. for some applications (email, slide shows, calendars, word processing) web apps maybe entirely reasonable. others like Photoshop, Maya, Final Cut and similar products i don't see how they could be optimized to be web based. i know flickr incorporates piknic as their online image editing app but it's only good for a quick touch up and not much else.

all that paired with ISPs busying trying to throttle and cap bandwidth going web based may not even be all that great of a solution.


Maya would be ideal, pay per render, complex animated scenes rendered in seconds on a farm somewhere far far away.
 
I didn't say google apps, I said Apple's MobileMe apps. You are confusing implementation issues with one set of apps with what is possible with a set of technologies.

http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/mail.html
http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/contacts.html
http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/calendar.html

Apple's MacMe will still not match their desktop compadres. They will be better than Google, but won't touch the interactive capabilities of OS X Services and more.

The point is to make the web services applications via the Browser at least respectable, if not useable enough to convince people to move to the OS X Platform.

Give them a slice of the pie and show them their is a much bigger selection if they want the whole pie.
 
Consideration of something this grand is a bit beyond my technical knowledge, but I can see this being the first of many things to go platform agnostic. One day we'll simply use a terminal to log on to the net...
 
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