A Windows "Feature" I want in OS X...

[richard.mac]

i dont see the need for cutting files. in Windows i just drag and drop and to move i drag while right clicking and choose move. while in OS X i use spring loaded folders and use option and command to copy or move.

but i always cut text which you can do this in OS X. i guess Apple just found drag and drop more user friendly as the novice may 'lose' a file while cutting which happens in Windows.

 

[Abstract]

Tell me, what's easier?

Having the option for cut and paste, but I'll play along....

Or, selecting a document, right clicking it, selecting cut (or going to Explorer menu and selecting cut, or typing Ctrl-x... which most people don't do), doubleclicking "My Document", double clicking down the hierarchy, going to the Explorer menu, and selecting paste (which is what 90% of people do instead of ctrl-v).

Yes, because this is faster. I know you can adjust the speed in which folders will "spring", but you need to wait. I can click through the folder hierarchy far quicker than dragging something through each spring-loaded folder.

OS X's version is at least as useful....

Useful? Yes, but not always as quick, IMO.

 

[Teej guy]

but i always cut text which you can do this in OS X. i guess Apple just found drag and drop more user friendly as the novice may 'lose' a file while cutting which happens in Windows.

No, the file doesn't get lost. If you cut a file but don't paste it anywhere, it just stays where it is. It goes slightly transparent so you can see what you're cutting, but it's not actually deleted.

I can click through the folder hierarchy far quicker than dragging something through each spring-loaded folder.

Me too.

 

[617arg]

Folks,

There is a feature in Windows XP/Vista that I want in Mac OS X: I want to be able to grow/shrink windows from any corner. Is anyone aware of a utility that provides that functionality?

Thanks,

S-

oh boy.........did you just dare to insinuate that having this ability might actually be useful?!

don't you know that this is not the place for any critical talk? besides, having just one place to resize windows is far superior for the OS built for multi-tasking

 

[jive turkey]

I would use cut & paste if it were available, but I think I would rather have a two-pane Finder window (like you can do with PathFinder). Quickly open the destination in the right pane and drag the file over. No need then to worry about copying & pasting, or spring loaded folders.

Comparing Windows to OS X, I would rather cut and paste just so I don't have to hold my mouse button down the whole time I am navigating through the spring loaded folders. You know, laziness and stuff. Plus on occasion I goof up and let go of the mouse too early. You know, ineptness and stuff.

Edit: Yes, I know I can open multiple Finder windows and do it this way.

 

[sidewinder]

oh boy.........did you just dare to insinuate that having this ability might actually be useful?!

don't you know that this is not the place for any critical talk? besides, having just one place to resize windows is far superior for the OS built for multi-tasking

Yes, shame on me. I will now go on a quest for a shrubbery as penance for my sins.....

S-

 

[Ramashalanka]

It's posts like that which make us all look bad.

+1

I can only assume that dragonmantek was deliberately setting out to make sidewinder angry: there's no other reason that "you should be satisfied" could be followed by "he's being arrogant." And surely he succeeded: my blood pressure has gone up on the OP's behalf. Breath deeply.

A post starting with "you should be satisfied" is an epic fail.

 

[sidewinder]

Ramashalanka,

Just think what dragonmantek and Tallest Skil would think if they found out that I used a G5 mouse with, get this, multiple buttons. Even worse, what if they found out that I programmed them to be functional in Mac OS X. I can right click and use the back button!

Blasphemy!!

S-

 

[Ramashalanka]

Some consistency from a MacBook post of his:

they should allow people to make custom set-ups for different scenarios, like disabling certain things when your unplugged.

vista had that, and was really good at it. too bad everything else sucked

he should be satisfied with his MacBook as it is

 

[Trip.Tucker]

Cutting is way easier =/. You have to use windows to realize what its like. I use the cut feature alot. I mean whats wrong with having both? Windows has Cut and Copy. I think its a really useful feature, and it's much easier then dragging, thats actually the first thing that bothered me when I used OSX.

DataHead
Mar 25, 2007, 02:09 PM
Ok, if you want to install your own keyboard shortcuts for cut/paste functionality until Apple decides to make it official do this:

Install OnMyCommand from free.abracode.com/cmworkshop.
(By copying the program file to Applications.)
Install OMCEdit from inside the OnMyCommand package (by copying the program file to Applications).
Install Shortcuts from free.abracode.com/cmworkshop.
Go to free.abracode.com/cmworkshop -> Online archive of user submitted commands -> view "File" commands by category -> 212 Cut Item(s) -> Open (Firefox gives a inappropriate error window.) Then save that text file somewhere.
Do the same with 213 Paste Item(s).
Run OMCEdit and File -> Import those two commands.
You can now ctrl click -> Cut and Paste Item(s) Finder items.
Now quit OMCEdit and run Shortcuts.
On the Setup tab start the ShortcutObserver and add it to your login startup.
On the Assign Hot Keys tab under File select Cut Item(s) and assign it Shift Command X.
Under Folder select Paste Item(s) and assign it Shift Command V (or whatever you want that doesn't conflict with other shortcuts).

Quit Shortcuts and give it a try!

Many thanks to Abracode, Knut Lorenzen and Fredrik Andersson!

Kevin Serwick

See if this works for you.

 

[Trip.Tucker]

Folks,

There is a feature in Windows XP/Vista that I want in Mac OS X: I want to be able to grow/shrink windows from any corner. Is anyone aware of a utility that provides that functionality?

Thanks,

S-

http://www.atomicbird.com/mondomouse/

Allows resizing from any corner as well as a few extra features.

 

[Ramashalanka]

http://www.atomicbird.com/mondomouse/

Allows resizing from any corner as well as a few extra features.

Good find Trip.Tucker.

 

[Abstract]

+1

I can only assume that dragonmantek was deliberately setting out to make sidewinder angry: there's no other reason that "you should be satisfied" could be followed by "he's being arrogant." And surely he succeeded: my blood pressure has gone up on the OP's behalf. Breath deeply.

To be fair, I thought that dragonmantek was joking when he said "You should be satisfied".

His other post, where he said, "He's being arrogant", was directed towards Tallest Skil, not sidewinder.

Not sure if Tallest Skil was joking or not. He's rather moody though.

 

[Winni]

I see the "Defenders of the One True Faith" are all over this thread already...

Here's more food for you:

Windows: Full customizability, by design.
OS X: Zero customizability, by decree.

So, without hacking into the guts of the system, you can't customize anything in OS X. You cannot even freely add sounds to all kinds of system events, as you can do it in Windows. You can also not apply any desktop theme, as you can do it in Windows. Why? Well. Because the decree said so.

 

[Ramashalanka]

To be fair, I thought that dragonmantek was joking when he said "You should be satisfied".

His other post, where he said, "He's being arrogant", was directed towards Tallest Skil, not sidewinder.

Not sure if Tallest Skil was joking or not. He's rather moody though.

If all you say is correct, and it was all joking, then my mistake sorry. Their posts on these thread are then at least as useful as my irrelevant ramblings.

 

[quotemeas]

To be fair, I thought that dragonmantek was joking when he said "You should be satisfied".

His other post, where he said, "He's being arrogant", was directed towards Tallest Skil, not sidewinder.

Not sure if Tallest Skil was joking or not. He's rather moody though.

So, I'm not understanding the whole Cut & Paste thing. When I drag a file around my HD, the file moves to where I drop it (excluding external locations). If I hold down Option and drag the file, it makes a copy of the file where I drop it. What am I missing?

BTW, if I hold down Command while dragging a file from my HD to an external location, it moves the file to the new location and does not leave the original file on my HD.

 

[Ramashalanka]

So, I'm not understanding the whole Cut & Paste thing. When I drag a file around my HD, the file moves to where I drop it (excluding external locations). If I hold down Option and drag the file, it makes a copy of the file where I drop it. What am I missing?

BTW, if I hold down Command while dragging a file from my HD to an external location, it moves the file to the new location and does not leave the original file on my HD.

You have to drag it around. You can't copy it (from the menu or a right-click), go to where you want it to be and paste it (from the menu or a right-click). Navigating can be faster if you're not holding the mouse button down the whole time and waiting for springload.

 

[quotemeas]

You have to drag it around. You can't copy it (from the menu or a right-click), go to where you want it to be and paste it (from the menu or a right-click). Navigating can be faster if you're not holding the mouse button down the whole time and waiting for springload.

Ok, I see. I recommend you purchase MacPilot as it can add the Cut ability to the Finder's contextual menus. I just added it and works well for me. I highly recommend this program in general.

As for navigating, I guess I am too use to using the Column view.

 

[sahnert]

Navigating can be faster if you're not holding the mouse button down the whole time and waiting for springload.

I'm not saying that cut and paste would not be useful, but for everyone's benefit:
in OS X tapping the spacebar while hovering over a folder with a file will open the folder. This can really speed up the drag-and-drop method, especially in column view.

 

[quotemeas]

I'm not saying that cut and paste would not be useful, but for everyone's benefit:
in OS X tapping the spacebar while hovering over a folder with a file will open the folder. This can really speed up the drag-and-drop method, especially in column view.

Or you can set the Finder preference to its shortest setting. FWI, unchecking the box will prevent folders from opening when you hover over them.

 

[Ramashalanka]

Ok, I see. I recommend you purchase MacPilot as it can add the Cut ability to the Finder's contextual menus. I just added it and works well for me. I highly recommend this program in general.

Great. You can also do it with:

defaults write com.apple.finder AllowCutForItems 1

but according the MacPilot it "moves files to the trash, doesn't actually cut them".

I guess that's the reason that Apple disabled the menu in the first place.

As for navigating, I guess I am too use to using the Column view.

OK, but when you click on a folder on the sidebar, you a limited to navigating within that part of the tree when you're dragging (unless you go back to the sidebar, or ...). Also you're waiting for the pop while moving around the folders. Finally, I personally prefer the list view, with dates etc, but each to his/her own.

Generally, I seem to: find a file, want to cut it, then look around aimlessly for where I want to put it, and then if I find the right place, paste it. I find that easier to do when I can navigate at will clicking here and there, without hovering and popping. If I don't find the place I'm looking for, it I prefer it to be where I left it.

Not saying it's a big deal, and I prefer OS X overall, just discussing the differences.

Or you can set the Finder preference to its shortest setting. FWI, unchecking the box will prevent folders from opening when you hover over them.

I think this was what was meant by this previous post in this thread.

I know you can adjust the speed in which folders will "spring"

 

[neonblue2]

I'd really get annoyed if I accidently resized my windows from anywhere except the bottom right corner. I like to keep my windows (especially Finder windows) a certain size. It keeps life simple.

Something I'd like to see on Windows is being able to drag a window from any edge like you can textured OS X windows.

 

[Ramashalanka]

MacPilot as it can add the Cut ability to the Finder's contextual menus. I just added it and works well for me. I highly recommend this program in general.

I'm not sure how it works well for you.

Actually, although Mac Pilot's cut doesn't work (as in my previous post), Path Finder looks pretty good (it costs $40):

http://www.cocoatech.com/

Although it doesn't add cut to finder, it seems to do a good job as its own finder, complete with Dual Pane browsing: two full panes like an ftp, not one pane for folders and one for files like Macintosh (or windows) Explorer. I'm not sure which I prefer, but I like both options better than the built-in Finder.

Of course, none of this helps the OP, but hopefully Trip.Tucker's post helped him out.

 

[sidewinder]

Trip.Tucker's post was great. Unfortunately, I looked at mondomouse already and it requires hitting a key sequence to activate. It works, but it is not elegant and requires two hands. I'd rather resize the Apple way instead.

S-

 

[Abstract]

Last time I used Path Finder, it was version 4, and very bloated. This was on a 1.83 Core Duo (before C2D Macs were released). Actually, version 3 was even more so, as it just felt a bit sluggish. It felt like a "heavy" app to use, considering what it is meant for.