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Here's how I'm looking at it. Speed is always a plus, especially if you put a lot of things inside your iphone like I do. Sure the iphone is fast, but if you store lots of videos and music and take up the space, you start to feel the actual lag. A lot of people use their iphones, but many of them just use a few apps, nothing that really slows down the phone so to them, the iphone 5 is blazing fast.

Another reason why you would want a speed boost is to assure you that the iOS will be progressing. You're going to need more processing power if you want to add more things to iOS. If Apple doesn't substantially upgrade the CPU, it'll give you an idea that iOS won't be going anywhere for a while...

Not sure why having a lot of movies stored in ROM would effect the speeds of the CPU. Also I've seen several iPhone 5/Galaxy S4 comparison videos, most showing the iPhone 5 to be as fast and often faster in performing similar tasks. Many mobile manufactures understand the lure of high speed CPU to most tech junkies, while also understanding that in terms of actual performance most of that power goes unused.
 
Aha! That may indeed be Apple's cunning plan to fix iCloud - if they can get millions of unsuspecting iPhone and iPad users to run their iCloud servers - say goodbye to outages! :D

BRILLIANT!

And while we're at it... people who are saying quad core are thinking too small. We need actual 8 core processors. I don't mean 4 awesome cores and 4 mediocre ones as backup.

I mean, somebody used the logic of "intel has had 64-bit since 2003"... and Intel and AMD both have 8 core processors (some even 12).

The software might only take advantage of 2 cores, but the other 6 will make me feel better about myself. :D
 
That's the thing. Having more ram isn't about making the OS perform better. It'd probably run fine on 512MB. The reason I'd want to see at least 2GB on an iOS device is for the apps that can take advantage of it.

Yes. Apps like Safari, Chrome, Garageband, SSH clients etc. that currently disappear when in background - they can surely benefit from 2GB RAM. This saves us from page reloads, suddenly disappearing background media streams and connected apps. So in the name of user experience Apple will hopefully finally stop skimping on RAM.
 
That's not why Apple hasn't bumped the ram. iOS doesn't need 2 GB + ram to run fast on the current hardware thats being released at the time. Apple writes iOS to take full advantage the ram thats available.

It would be nice if Apple bumped the RAM considering how cheap it is so that Safari does not have keep reloading tabs all the time. This also goes for the iPad.
 
64-bit is highly unlikely.

There's very little (if any) benefit to it. iPhones with >4GB of RAM are a long way out.

One thing that people are forgetting is that there is also a cost to 64-bit: 'long' integers and pointers (which Apps tend to have quite a few of) double their size and alignment requirements.

That means Apps will actually take more RAM running on 64-bit. As I said before: all those extra bits will just be 0 anyway because the iPhone doesn't have that much physical RAM.

On the iPhone right now, the amount of memory is a much bigger limiting factor for developers than 64-bit addressing. It doesn't take much to trigger it - a few full-resolution photos and background Apps start quitting:

You can click through to see the detailed results but essentially on the iPhone 4S, you start getting warned around 40MB and you get killed around 213MB. On the iPad 3, you get warned around 400MB and you get killed around 550MB. Of course, these are just my numbers–if your users are listening to music or running things in the background, you may have considerably less memory than you do in my results, but this is a start. This seems like a lot (213mb should be enough for everyone, right?) but as a practical matter it isn’t. For example, the iPhone 4S snaps photos at 3264×2448 resolution. That’s over 30 megabytes of bitmap data per photo. That’s a warning for having just two photos in memory and you get killed for having 7 photos in RAM. Oh, you were going to write a for loop that iterated over an album? Killed.

Source
 
I'll admit, I'm disappointed.

I have a 4S and probably won't upgrade, but I was hoping for another "twice as fast as the previous generation." I can't picture Phil on stage marketing ""31% faster!" I can picture him saying "over 30% faster," but it seems strangely less effective.
 
I wonder what the one finger salute would tell the iPhone to do :D ?

I don't know if I'm really in favor of motion control. It seems like there is too much of a chance of misinterpreting your actions.
 
I'll admit, I'm disappointed.

I have a 4S and probably won't upgrade, but I was hoping for another "twice as fast as the previous generation." I can't picture Phil on stage marketing ""31% faster!" I can picture him saying "over 30% faster," but it seems strangely less effective.

So... you're basing your potential purposes on how much the CPU (theoretically) improves for a device that is primarily GPU driven anyway?
 
I'll admit, I'm disappointed.

I have a 4S and probably won't upgrade, but I was hoping for another "twice as fast as the previous generation." I can't picture Phil on stage marketing ""31% faster!" I can picture him saying "over 30% faster," but it seems strangely less effective.

It is probably much faster than your 4S. I would see this as a good upgrade.
 
It's not about the need to have one, it's WANTING one. Most games run fine on my Playstation 3, but games can do more on Playstation 4.

True, but unlike the PlayStation OS, iOS runs on multiple devices of varying power. Games developed for iOS will be designed to run on an A5; otherwise the developers would be cutting their market in half (less actually) if they only catered to the most recent A-series chip.

Regardless, a 31% speed increase is nothing to scoff at. The A6 was a 30% increase over the A5, and yet the iPhone 5 benchmarked double what the 4s did.

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I'll admit, I'm disappointed.

I have a 4S and probably won't upgrade, but I was hoping for another "twice as fast as the previous generation." I can't picture Phil on stage marketing ""31% faster!" I can picture him saying "over 30% faster," but it seems strangely less effective.

Kinda an odd standard. So you won't upgrade until Apple releases two consecutive phones will double the speed of the previous generation? Why?
 
64-bit doesn't make a lick of sense at this point. Perhaps in time when Apple decides to make an ARM based laptop line.
And it would be almost trivial for them to port iOS to 64-bit. Everything is already 64-bit in OSX.
 
a fingerprint scanner is a gimmick, a larger screen is not.

there are more people that want a larger screen than people who want a fingerprint scanner. this is a fact.

Made up facts are not facts.

Here's a real fact though. I could care less if my next phone has a fingerprint scanner in it or not. I do not however, want a phone larger then my iPhone 5. I actually preferred the size of my iPhone 4.

Its a phone. I want it to fit comfortably in my pocket. I don't want to have to hang it off my belt. I dont want to either hold something the size of an iPad Mini up to my ear or be forced to use a headset. If I want to really watch a movie on my device, I'll use my iPad or get an iPad mini.

At this point Apple should just add the phone app to the iPad's and have support for using it like a cell phone. Then if someone wants a tablet for a phone, they can use an actual tablet. Then, keep the phone sizes small. Yanno, like the size of a phone.
 
I'll admit, I'm disappointed.

I have a 4S and probably won't upgrade, but I was hoping for another "twice as fast as the previous generation." I can't picture Phil on stage marketing ""31% faster!" I can picture him saying "over 30% faster," but it seems strangely less effective.
"It's almost a third faster and with twice as much memory, apps can do even bigger and more awesome things. We're also using a brand new exciting technology... the A7 processor is a 64-bit processor. Some of you may know what that means, but in short: it means the iPhone 5S is the most powerful and capable CPU currently available.
And the best of all? It's really energy-efficient, in fact... blah blah blah."

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My big question regarding the iPhone 5S is will Apple make 32GB standard for flash memory. I paid extra to have it for my iPhone 5.
And that's exactly why they didn't make 32 GB the standard for the iPhone 5.
 
I just want this on the next iPad. I already have an iPhone 5 and it's a screamin' phone.
 
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