A8 Chip From 4.7-Inch iPhone 6 Appears to Carry 1 GB of RAM

[KeepCalmPeople]

The 1 GB of RAM makes sense honestly. What most people don't realize is that smartphones really do not need more than 1 GB of RAM. It's simply a marketing scheme. Even though apple implemented a 64 bit processor with A7, software optimization is the key to performance and Apple has mastered this.
...

So if people are having issues with multiple tabs reloading in Safari, and apps refreshing randomly, is it because:

'Smartphones really do not need more than 1 GB of RAM', or is it because:
'software performance is the key to performance and Apple has mastered this'?

Or are you saying that people are imagining it?

 

[ee4life]

From the feld&volk/sonny dickson leak.

Thanks, didn't originally zoom in on that pic to see the part numbers. Seems more and more likely this is a custom 1GB package for Apple.

 

[Edd.Dantes]

What crashes? My iPhone4 has only 0,5GB and I have no such crashes...

I don't believe you.

 

[sdugoten]

What crashes? My iPhone4 has only 0,5GB and I have no such crashes...

So, you are saying you are using an iphone which doesn't have the limitation of how IOS works? I guess you are using a special iphone from Steve Jobs?

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18481380/

 

[Am3r1ca16]

oh god still with 1Gb of RAM. I hope this is not true.

 

[Piggie]

In various threads that talk about this 1GB, if true, in the new iPhone.

And those who support and defend this 1GB imposed by Apple.

What I think it strange/funny is that those who defend it, are coming from a very strange mental attitude and not thinking right or thinking for any progress.

Their thought process seems to be, well my past phones have 1GB, programs have been written with this limitation in mind and work, so there is no need to have any more than 1GB.

Now, can we all see how bizarre this way of thinking is?

How can you know, and decide on something you have never had or experienced?

That would be like saying my car has a 500cc engine and it can carry 2 people, 2 people are the only amount the car has ever been able to carry and the car has been build for 2 people due to the 500cc engine. So I cannot even consider the need for a 1000cc engine.

They are not thinking beyond what they have now.

This line of thinking would not of got us past iPad 1, or a 640K PC as programs were written for a 640K PC, ran on a 640K PC, so why would you need more than a 640K PC to run programs on?

It's not until you pass a past limitation, and then have the ability to use the new extra that's been given to you, can you look back and see how limited you were before the change.

That's progress.

Of course people are not going to write apps than need 2GB when there is only 1GB to work with.
How dumb can people be who cannot see this?

How can you know you don't need or won't benefit for something until you have experienced what it's like, and what the benefits are of having this extra?

So very stupid and short sighted the people who cannot grasp this.

I wonder why they all don't have iPad 1 as the programs written for the iPad1 work fine on the iPad1 so no need for the iPad1 to of been upgraded was there?

 

[FrozenInferno]

Two words: Planned obsolescence

 

[Dranix]

Here is speculation because of some nearly unreadable part number. Some have to put that into their head.

On the 1GB is big enought: For many years my desktop systems had much less ram and worked fine even multitasking with big applications. If that amount doesn't work for iOS apps the coders really should be beaten into a optimization bootcamp... After all we could write large programms on the C64...

 

[skratch77]

Why push 64 bit and bottle neck it with 1gb of ram? Imagine what devs can do with 4gb of ram and that power house 64bit CPU!

 

[macrumors4leo]

This is the most accurate statement I've seen of the bunch. 1GB of RAM is not the end of the world, but we all are hopeful for a super powerful rendition of the phone given the sort of loyal tech fans we are. But this phone will still have record sales, Apple will have crazy profit margins, and options to entice users to buy the 6S (ie faster speeds and maybe that superb battery life we've all been wanting). I almost want to say I won't be buying it, but who am I kidding?

People are surprised ?

Unlike the competition, apple always goes lowest spec possible to maximise profit. And charge for each spec bump nicely.

They will sell like hot cakes anyway. And they can gloat how the 6s has 2gb of RAM

 

[anomie]

Would be pretty cool if Apple started their keynote with presenting all the fake information they spread as part of Cook's doubling down program
But hey, maybe it'll really be just 1g. Ten days till truthaboutiphone.

----------

Now, can we all see how bizarre this way of thinking is?

How can you know, and decide on something you have never had or experienced?

So they don't know but you know without experiencing a possible iPhone 6 with 1gb?
What if it's fast? Fast like the 5s is faster than 5 which also contains 1gb.
What if it saves energy since it only needs to power 1gb?
You're not the only one around who is able to use his brain, don't be so arrogant and ignorant.
To me you're just another spec junkie. Go buy an android, they are full of ram and multicore CPUs!

 

[appledes7]

It doesn't clearly look like a 8. The picture is heavily enlarged and sharpened. Could well be a B - sharpening artifacts tend to round edges.

Its definitely an 8. Look at the N's, T, and M. ALl of which have perfectly straight vertical lines, and the vertical lines are obvious. If it was a B, it too would have an easily recognizable vertical line. It doesn't. Its an 8.

If you are expecting 2GB RAM in the iPhone 6, expect to be disappointed.

 

[Stanick]

It's rather funny to read all the opinions defending every gaffe apple makes. it's almost like some people do not understand that at this point Apple falls seriously behind it's competition. 1gb is enough u say? Yet the battery will still suck big time, you will still get the same 16gb with no means of expansion... And you will probably have to pay extra this time around. oh, and it will look ugly... Almost chinese knock-off ugly. Iphone 6 is a huge gaffe and many apple fans should learn to admit it.

 

[JobsGang]

In various threads that talk about this 1GB, if true, in the new iPhone.

And those who support and defend this 1GB imposed by Apple.

What I think it strange/funny is that those who defend it, are coming from a very strange mental attitude and not thinking right or thinking for any progress.

Their thought process seems to be, well my past phones have 1GB, programs have been written with this limitation in mind and work, so there is no need to have any more than 1GB.

Now, can we all see how bizarre this way of thinking is?

How can you know, and decide on something you have never had or experienced?

That would be like saying my car has a 500cc engine and it can carry 2 people, 2 people are the only amount the car has ever been able to carry and the car has been build for 2 people due to the 500cc engine. So I cannot even consider the need for a 1000cc engine.

They are not thinking beyond what they have now.

This line of thinking would not of got us past iPad 1, or a 640K PC as programs were written for a 640K PC, ran on a 640K PC, so why would you need more than a 640K PC to run programs on?

It's not until you pass a past limitation, and then have the ability to use the new extra that's been given to you, can you look back and see how limited you were before the change.

That's progress.

Of course people are not going to write apps than need 2GB when there is only 1GB to work with.
How dumb can people be who cannot see this?

How can you know you don't need or won't benefit for something until you have experienced what it's like, and what the benefits are of having this extra?

So very stupid and short sighted the people who cannot grasp this.

I wonder why they all don't have iPad 1 as the programs written for the iPad1 work fine on the iPad1 so no need for the iPad1 to of been upgraded was there?

Blah blah blah blah.The iPhone 6 with 1 gb of ram will be fine for 99.5% of the population.Those who want more ram go buy a note 4,g3 etc.We aren't stupid or short sighted.We just don't care.

 

[Trapezoid]

It's rather funny to read all the opinions defending every gaffe apple makes. it's almost like some people do not understand that at this point Apple falls seriously behind it's competition. 1gb is enough u say? Yet the battery will still suck big time, you will still get the same 16gb with no means of expansion... And you will probably have to pay extra this time around. oh, and it will look ugly... Almost chinese knock-off ugly. Iphone 6 is a huge gaffe and many apple fans should learn to admit it.

You are aware it hasn't been announced let alone released yet...right?

 

[Piggie]

Blah blah blah blah.The iPhone 6 with 1 gb of ram will be fine for 99.5% of the population.Those who want more ram go buy a note 4,g3 etc.We aren't stupid or short sighted.We just don't care.

You are stupid.

How do you know you don't want more than 1GB when you have never had more than 1GB ?

Or seen what a Dev can do with an App that can access and have more than 1GB to play with?

Duh!

How can you not want something you don't know about?

By all means, if you are intelligent, say something like:
"Well so far, I personally have not seen anything that I can think would be made better by having more RAM, but it would be interesting to see what could be done"

Do you think we should scrap all iPads other than iPad1 as things written for iPad1 ran perfectly on iPad1 so no need for iPad2 ?

Duh!

 

[Dranix]

Do you think we should scrap all iPads other than iPad1 as things written for iPad1 ran perfectly on iPad1 so no need for iPad2 ?

No, but many here should drop that drama. 1GB is a huge amount of ram. My first iBook had 384*MB* and worked real fine. Even with having 32GB in my nMP few programs really need it - The only things that really tax it are Logic, Photoshop, Painter and Shade3d... Even my running Xcode only needs 950MB.

 

[Tyrion]

So if people are having issues with multiple tabs reloading in Safari, and apps refreshing randomly, is it because:

'Smartphones really do not need more than 1 GB of RAM', or is it because:
'software performance is the key to performance and Apple has mastered this'?

Or are you saying that people are imagining it?

Very good post, deserves to be quoted. I can't believe how deluded some people here are. If the iPhone 6 really only has 1 GB RAM I'll definitely switch to Android. Hey, it will be worse than iOS in many ways, BUT AT LEAST MY GODDAMN TABS WON'T RELOAD. I've been chimping out about this issue since 2009.

 

[recoil80]

Blah blah blah blah.The iPhone 6 with 1 gb of ram will be fine for 99.5% of the population.Those who want more ram go buy a note 4,g3 etc.We aren't stupid or short sighted.We just don't care.

99.5% of the population could use an iPhone 4, it will be overkill for their daily usage
For the premium price you pay for an iPhone you have to get 2GB of ram in 2014, that's the bottom line.
1GB may be enough now, but iPhone 6 will be supported at least until 2016!

 

[Tyrion]

No, but many here should drop that drama. 1GB is a huge amount of ram. My first iBook had 384*MB* and worked real fine. Even with having 32GB in my nMP few programs really need it - The only things that really tax it are Logic, Photoshop, Painter and Shade3d... Even my running Xcode only needs 950MB.

I used to have a TiBook G4 with 512 MB RAM. It worked well, and when I felt it needed more RAM I upgraded to 1 GB (a huge amount at the time). For one, you don't have that option with the iPhone. You're stuck with what you have, and since 1 GB RAM in a smartphone is paltry by today's standard, the iPhone 6 will be bottlenecked right out of the gate. Secondly, the whole point of this debate is that while your old iBook and my old TiBook worked "real fine" on very little RAM, the same can't be said for the iPhone (and the iPad is even worse). Everytime Safari "loses" my previously opened content, everytime Evernote or Youtube crashes, everytime the Music app "forgets" the last song I played after I paused it to take a call or do something else - everytime these things happen I'm reminded that my iPhone does not have enough RAM and that there's nothing I can do about that. Granted, I have a 4S which is a total dog anyway, maybe some of these issues wouldn't bother me as much on a 5 or 5S with their faster SOCs. But still, this stuff simply shouldn't happen in 2014. My TiBook could keep track of like 60 tabs in Camino back in 2002, before Safari even existed. That's what I call working "real fine".

 

[Dranix]

I know what you mean, but I really feel many developers need writing efficient code beaten into them. The amount of resources many modern program eat away is insane.

 

[Tyrion]

I know what you mean, but I really feel many developers need writing efficient code beaten into them. The amount of resources many modern program eat away is insane.

I'm quite baffled by some posters' insistence that increasing the RAM will automatically lead to sloppier code. Guess what, I could just as easily speculate that more RAM will entail cooler, more elaborate apps! And the inefficient resource hogs will be left behind - it's the App Store, FFS, crappy apps sink pretty quickly.

Since when is the governing attitude to hardware improvements "but but but it will make developers lazy!!!"? I'm nonplussed. I mean, I've been following Apple releases and rumors for like thirteen years now, I've watched tons of Keynotes and it's always been an exciting ride. Never once did I stop to think "wait, this particular improvement is a huge mistake, it will lead to lazily coded apps, APPLE IS DOOMED".

 

[Dranix]

It would help if you read other peoples post and not think on what they might have said. I never said that 1GB is a sensible value today, but developers are showing for years that they waste resources. A simple weather app - over 200MB? What the *******. This is the reason for resource problems on ANY device available, sucking developers. There are few programs that should even need 512MB devices. But look at what we get from day to day in the store - mostly utter junk by coders never really learning how to write efficient code.

 

[jont-fu]

Would it be plausible to have different configurations like we currently have 16GB, 32GB, 64GB models all with 1GB of memory. But this time also the amount of memory changes?

Like so:

Model 1: 16 GB, 1 GB, low price (replaces iPhone 5C)
Model 2: 64 GB, 2 GB, mid price
Model 3: 128 GB, 2 GB, premium

I know the memory is stacked on the CPU so they would need to manufacture a wider range of chips but maybe with the new collaboration with TSMC this is possible? Also they could use the same 2 GB chip in the iPad Air and 1 GB chip in iPad mini.

Just a thought. My current phone is 4S with 512 MB memory and it runs fine, I'm getting the 6 mostly because of a larger screen, touch id and improved camera.

 

[Dranix]

Would be a nice setup, but I don't beliefe in Apple doing it.