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A8 Chip From 4.7-Inch iPhone 6 Appears to Carry 1 GB of RAM

This news is very devastating for me, I use my iPhone a lot and have multiple apps running all the time and my iPhone 5S has crashed more than ever -- App's crash = App's freeze when I open them -- this happens with various apps, not always the same ones including Apple's own native applications.

I know its the ram because my Diagnostic & Usage is full of "LowMemory" logs.

I have the 64GB model and is only half full storage wise, so I know its the RAM for sure.

Its not just this iPhone, I had the 32GB for first half of the year and that too suffered from the same issue over time -- not something thats consistent but does occur.

I don't always close my apps so sometimes it builds up to 10-20apps in the switcher as I use them a lot for work.

Have about 4 email accounts all Push Enabled, overall I would say my iPhone's have high milage each year, and I was really hoping Apple would provide 2GB -- I have my fingers crossed that they still are going to.
 
It's funny how the smaller model won't have 2GB of RAM. It's 2014 too. So many people are going to pay just for a spec boost and half-a**ed upgrades. I am so glad I didn't waste money on the 5S too.
 
horsebattery said:
While the creator of Anandtech is admittedly partial to apple gadgets, their coverage is considered among the most in depth these days - just as how Siracusa of ArsTechnica is also one of the best sources for ios/osx coverage.
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TommyA6 said:
At least Anandtech goes into great details explaining everything. On Phone Arena the literally just ... "This phone has a 12 mpx camera, the other one has an 8 mpx one. 12 mpx wins... NEXT" :eek:
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pedromcm.pm said:
Anand himself, as any decent and knowledgeable human that follows the tech industry since 98, has some admiration for Apple, obviously.

And? They are very open about their approaches. Anandtech is the website where all meaningful benchmarks and data come from. Their credibility depends on it.

Phone arena is more of an website for people like you and the other one that was talking about their OnePlus One's specs. You know, people without an once of formation about the matter. You guys game, and see yourselves as "tech geeks". Phone arena is totally for you.

Anandtech isn't. Its a very objective website, just like Ars Technica.
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All I have to say to you guy's is when you read random forums or blogs around the web, and people ask questions about something they've read on anandtech and then in the same breath state they know it's biased towards Apple, you know it has a reputation. And yes I have seen that.

I'm not going to separate Phone Arena as their are many other tech sites out there, but anandtech bias towards Apple is very very very well known, and therefore it's reporting and benchmarks cannot be trusted, plenty of other websites where that information can be found. It should speak with the same tone and passion for ALL brands and technology's, then it wouldn't have the reputation it has got.
 
Piggie said:
You are stupid.

How do you know you don't want more than 1GB when you have never had more than 1GB ?

Or seen what a Dev can do with an App that can access and have more than 1GB to play with?

Duh!

How can you not want something you don't know about?

By all means, if you are intelligent, say something like:
"Well so far, I personally have not seen anything that I can think would be made better by having more RAM, but it would be interesting to see what could be done"

Do you think we should scrap all iPads other than iPad1 as things written for iPad1 ran perfectly on iPad1 so no need for iPad2 ?

Duh!
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:rolleyes:Blah blah blah blah blah.Doest change the fact the iPhone 6 will hold its own against any android phone.
 
randian said:
That's not just a ding to your data plan. I guarantee that it costs more energy to run the LTE radio during the reload than it does to run the extra RAM needed to prevent reload.
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Did not think of this, but that's likely true!

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JobsGang said:
:rolleyes:Blah blah blah blah blah.Doest change the fact the iPhone 6 will hold its own against any android phone.
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This is a pointless strawman. Nobody is arguing it wouldn't hold its own. People are arguing that it can be better despite already being great.
 
1gb

WhoDaKat said:
Personally the amount of RAM my phone has is just a number. I actually think its a testament to Apples engineering prowess that they can get such amazing results from just 1 GB of RAM. And I appreciate them doing whatever they can to keep costs down.
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I'd like my prices down, but these are devices that I run quite often. I'm willing to pay a little more to have my device run more efficiently (resulting in some things having faster results for me).

The problem, IMHO, is that in these cases Apple isn't trying to keep prices "down" they're trying to keep them at $199. In some ways that is "down" but in other ways they're trying to develop a device to fit the marketing.

Someone with some real knowledge help me out, is developing 2GB in the A8 (instead of 1GB) going to really cost more than $10 a iDevice? (just the hardware changes, I'm not talking any changes in battery life, heat, etc.). And in some cases couldn't that result in less processing power, less accessing of internet (safari refreshes for example), less access to storage where it would actually benefit power (from less access to storage, internet, etc.).

Gotta say, if I'm willing to cough up $399 for the 64GB version (which is outrageous pricing for the 16GB to 32GB to 64GB storage increases), I'm not going to flinch at another $20 or $30 for the extra RAM in the A8.

My (more than) 2 cents,
Gary
 
apolloa said:
You haven't been following the rumours then I take it? Never read this website before?

https://www.macrumors.com/2014/04/14/iphone-6-100-price-increase/

Why take that quote, then go on about the components, when as I stated it has already been rumoured.

If you pay more money for a handset that is already at the top end of it's chosen market, and it doesn't even come with more RAM, then more fool you.
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I wasn't disputing the rumor that Apple may charge more. I'm disputing the logic that suggests that RAM is the only component that factors into the price. I would love to see more RAM (though it doesn't seem like much of a limiting factor on the 5s). I just don't see why more money couldn't be to cover several other things that could be more important.

So I guess to you, in the current lineup it'd be foolish for anyone to buy a 5s, because it has the same amount of RAM as the iPhone 5/5c.
 
KeepCalmPeople said:
So if people are having issues with multiple tabs reloading in Safari, and apps refreshing randomly, is it because:

'Smartphones really do not need more than 1 GB of RAM', or is it because:
'software performance is the key to performance and Apple has mastered this'?

Or are you saying that people are imagining it?
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I'm right with you on this. I truly love Apple products as much as the next guy, but some of the Apple apologists commenting on this site never cease to amaze me. smh. :confused:

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Piggie said:
In various threads that talk about this 1GB, if true, in the new iPhone.

And those who support and defend this 1GB imposed by Apple.

What I think it strange/funny is that those who defend it, are coming from a very strange mental attitude and not thinking right or thinking for any progress.

Their thought process seems to be, well my past phones have 1GB, programs have been written with this limitation in mind and work, so there is no need to have any more than 1GB.

Now, can we all see how bizarre this way of thinking is?

How can you know, and decide on something you have never had or experienced?

That would be like saying my car has a 500cc engine and it can carry 2 people, 2 people are the only amount the car has ever been able to carry and the car has been build for 2 people due to the 500cc engine. So I cannot even consider the need for a 1000cc engine.

They are not thinking beyond what they have now.

This line of thinking would not of got us past iPad 1, or a 640K PC as programs were written for a 640K PC, ran on a 640K PC, so why would you need more than a 640K PC to run programs on?

It's not until you pass a past limitation, and then have the ability to use the new extra that's been given to you, can you look back and see how limited you were before the change.

That's progress.

Of course people are not going to write apps than need 2GB when there is only 1GB to work with.
How dumb can people be who cannot see this?

How can you know you don't need or won't benefit for something until you have experienced what it's like, and what the benefits are of having this extra?

So very stupid and short sighted the people who cannot grasp this.

I wonder why they all don't have iPad 1 as the programs written for the iPad1 work fine on the iPad1 so no need for the iPad1 to of been upgraded was there?
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+1! Preach on brotha!
 
Lol at apple fanboys, this is a real cheap move by apple and disappointing. My 2 year old iphone 5 will still match specs of a 6 in terms of RAM. It's really disappointing, but not surprising. Apple has been a disappointing company for a few years now. Will be interesting to see if these rumors are true.
 
So they don't know but you know without experiencing a possible iPhone 6 with 1gb?
What if it's fast? Fast like the 5s is faster than 5 which also contains 1gb.
What if it saves energy since it only needs to power 1gb?
You're not the only one around who is able to use his brain, don't be so arrogant and ignorant.
To me you're just another spec junkie. Go buy an android, they are full of ram and multicore CPUs!
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Oooh, sounds like magic! Apple will have taken basically the same CPU tech and the same old 1 GB or RAM, but using puppy dogs, unicorns and pixie dust, we'll all of a sudden experience better battery life and faster speeds with no Safari tab refreshing or app crashes! Well will wonders never cease? (Time to come out of fantasy land.)
 

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Dranix said:
It would help if you read other peoples post and not think on what they might have said. I never said that 1GB is a sensible value today, but developers are showing for years that they waste resources. A simple weather app - over 200MB? What the *******. This is the reason for resource problems on ANY device available, sucking developers. There are few programs that should even need 512MB devices. But look at what we get from day to day in the store - mostly utter junk by coders never really learning how to write efficient code.
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It's obvious that some people are very scared of change and progress. Sad.
 
I am constantly amazed, this truly is "the best product pipeline in 25 years." Wow.
/Sarcasm
 
apolloa said:
All I have to say to you guy's is when you read random forums or blogs around the web, and people ask questions about something they've read on anandtech and then in the same breath state they know it's biased towards Apple, you know it has a reputation. And yes I have seen that.

I'm not going to separate Phone Arena as their are many other tech sites out there, but anandtech bias towards Apple is very very very well known, and therefore it's reporting and benchmarks cannot be trusted, plenty of other websites where that information can be found. It should speak with the same tone and passion for ALL brands and technology's, then it wouldn't have the reputation it has got.
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We'll see what Anand says in his review of the iPhone 6.

iPhone 5S has less memory to use than the iPhone 5, due to its 64 bit CPU. It was very apparent in the list of memory consumption for the apps. Yet he didn't say a word about that. Just expected the iPhone 6 to have 2 GB of RAM.

So... yes, will be interesting to see if he has the balls to criticise Apple this time.
 
why did they introduce 64 bit processor, if its going to be 1 GB.. i am really considering a nexus 6 now! iOS is just ok.. with android L google proved that they are a better company..

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Mackan said:
We'll see what Anand says in his review of the iPhone 6.

iPhone 5S has less memory to use than the iPhone 5, due to its 64 bit CPU. It was very apparent in the list of memory consumption for the apps. Yet he didn't say a word about that. Just expected the iPhone 6 to have 2 GB of RAM.

So... yes, will be interesting to see if he has the balls to criticise Apple this time.
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maybe you should all visit arstechnica.. its better than than apple sponsored anandtech.. 64 bit and 1 GB ram in iPhone 6.. Apple just broke my heart.. going to sell my 5s for a nexus 6 or a moto x + 1
 
Mackan said:
We'll see what Anand says in his review of the iPhone 6.

iPhone 5S has less memory to use than the iPhone 5, due to its 64 bit CPU. It was very apparent in the list of memory consumption for the apps. Yet he didn't say a word about that. Just expected the iPhone 6 to have 2 GB of RAM.

So... yes, will be interesting to see if he has the balls to criticise Apple this time.
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Anand won't be reviewing anything. He has retired.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8456/the-road-ahead
 
was probably going to make the switch after 3 years of android. This will likely deter me from buying one.
 
Well,

If Apple insists on this low RAM (especially when the iphone is an an expensive product), then we can just vote by our dollars and not buy the iphone until they upgrade the RAM (which will happen next year).

As long as we keep buying they will keep producing
 
SMIDG3T said:
1GB of RAM on an iPhone is no issue. On an iPad, it's an issue.
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With the larger iPhones and the iPad mini the gap between the iPad and the iPhone is not that wide or clear. I'd say 1 GB of RAM could almost certainly be an issue for some iPhone 6 users, like annoying reload of webpages.
 
MacBH928 said:
Well,

If Apple insists on this low RAM (especially when the iphone is an an expensive product), then we can just vote by our dollars and not buy the iphone until they upgrade the RAM (which will happen next year).

As long as we keep buying they will keep producing
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macrumors members make up <1% of apple's customer base. Most of Apple's customers dont even know what RAM is.
 
I'd be very disappointed if the 4.7" comes equipped with 1GB only. I love my iPhone 5, but the constant App and Tab reloading is extremely annoying. I really don't want to go back to Android, but I'm sure as hell not paying 700-800€ for a phone that comes with 1GB RAM and 16GB flash in 2014.
 
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