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What I will not excuse, under any circumstance, will be if Apple keeps the base model at 16GB. That will be beyond comprehension. The base model FOUR YEARS ago was 16GB. If they honestly expect me to spend $650 on a phone in the year 2014 with 16 GIGS of storage, I will switch to android. I have been using the iPhone since 2007, and it would be a shame to have to leave the whole ecosystem, but 16GB of storage in 2014 would absolutely infuriate me. I will be so mad that I could spit. An iPad mini with retina display with LTE AND 32GB Storage costs $625. Anything less than 32GB on the base model is just pure and absolute greed.
They are not expecting YOU to buy the base model. You are completely free to buy the 64GB model. And comparing the price of a phone to the price of a tablet? Apples and oranges!

There are people for whom 16GB is enough, by far. For some people, 8GB is probably enough. Why should they pay a single additional Dollar for storage that they will never use? I suspect that even when they release the first Terabyte iPhone, they will still have a 16 gigabyte base model.
 
That is incorrect. iOS handles memory very efficiently. Very very few apps use more than 50MB of RAM. It is incredibly, incredibly rare to run in to a circumstance where an app (even safari) is using north of 500MB. The only time you run in to issues where pages in safari start reloading, and this only happens when you have many pages open. Safari will dump pages out of memory, but this tends to happen more to save power (java processing in the background) than it has to do with RAM.

Not to mention that RAM is using power even when your phone is "sleeping". It is ALWAYS using power.
 
It would be ironic if he wasn't right. People want battery life more than they want RAM, and "ironically, more RAM means less battery life.
I doubt very many people have handled an iPhone 5S and said, "This phone is great, but I wish it was thinner."

The iPhone is already light and thin. When technology advances, Apple should focus on the part of its offering that could stand improvement. The RAM and battery life of iPhones are completely eclipsed by those of flagship Android devices.
 
It would be ironic if he wasn't right. People want battery life more than they want RAM, and "ironically, more RAM means less battery life.

If you want to blame the battery life due to the amount of RAM, you better start at the CPU, which will invariably run extra cycles to shuffle that RAM in and out due to the constant RAM reloads.
 
They are not expecting YOU to buy the base model. You are completely free to buy the 64GB model. And comparing the price of a phone to the price of a tablet? Apples and oranges!

There are people for whom 16GB is enough, by far. For some people, 8GB is probably enough. Why should they pay a single additional Dollar for storage that they will never use? I suspect that even when they release the first Terabyte iPhone, they will still have a 16 gigabyte base model.

I think what he's saying (I'm sure actually) is that the base model should be 32 GB at the same price as the 16 GB model. When you're talking about entry level, I'm with you, I really don't care since I won't be bothering with that one.

Microsoft launched the Surface RT with 32GB standard, which I thought was incredible...until I found out that the OS and Office were using up a whopping 16 GB of the memory.

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If you want to compare battery life of RAM, you better start at the CPU, which will invariably run extra cycles to shuffle that RAM in and out due to the constant RAM reloads.

Not while the phone is sleeping, it won't. More RAM=less standby.
 
They are not expecting YOU to buy the base model. You are completely free to buy the 64GB model. And comparing the price of a phone to the price of a tablet? Apples and oranges!

There are people for whom 16GB is enough, by far. For some people, 8GB is probably enough. Why should they pay a single additional Dollar for storage that they will never use? I suspect that even when they release the first Terabyte iPhone, they will still have a 16 gigabyte base model.
Apple is one lucky company. As time goes on, their focus has shifted from providing top quality and competitive phones to cutting costs and increasing profit margins. Why anyone would defend less storage or less memory is beyond me.

It's not about whether you use it or not. You're spending good money on a phone, I'd like to think that a good portion of it is being invested back into the product as other manufacturers are clearly doing. I'm fine with lining Apple's pockets to a certain extent, but refusing to keep up with industry standards is inexcusable.
 
Exactly. On the iPhone, I am completely happy with 1GB. On the iPad, I would be quite disappointed if they stuck with 1GB.

And in any case, I am upgrading this year from an iPhone 4S, so I will see major improvements, no matter what. :cool:

Yeah, if you have a 4s the 6 will be lightning fast compared!
 
Will be interesting if true. This would be the first time in the history of the iPhone that three successive generations have had the same amount of RAM. (128->128->256->512->1024->1024->1024)
 
I doubt very many people have handled an iPhone 5S and said, "This phone is great, but I wish it was thinner."

The iPhone is already light and thin. When technology advances, Apple should focus on the part of its offering that could stand improvement. The RAM and battery life of iPhones are completely eclipsed by those of flagship Android devices.

Funny, we never mentioned thinner until you brought that up.

I do prefer a thinner device, it actually affects one handed usage significantly. A heavier phone is easier to drop in that scenario.

Eclipsing the RAM of the iPhone with an OS that is much more memory hungry is not really much of an accomplishment. Especially when the benefits of RAM aren't readily apparent on a phone in an every day use case. Battery life IS an issue, and Apple seems to be addressing it more closely. But no, I wouldn't want a clunkier phone to have more battery life. If I need it, I'll bring along one of the millions of third party battery charging accessories.
 
Not while the phone is sleeping, it won't. More RAM=less standby.
If you're going to place blame on the amount of power RAM draws, then I don't know where to continue to argue with you. Please read quantitative studies/experiments (heck, maybe even anecdotal evidence!) regarding the issue of RAM and battery life of computers.
 
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They are not expecting YOU to buy the base model. You are completely free to buy the 64GB model. And comparing the price of a phone to the price of a tablet? Apples and oranges!

There are people for whom 16GB is enough, by far. For some people, 8GB is probably enough. Why should they pay a single additional Dollar for storage that they will never use? I suspect that even when they release the first Terabyte iPhone, they will still have a 16 gigabyte base model.
So, basically, your point is that I am free to give them even more money to get a still-measly 64GB of storage? You do realize that a 64GB USB 3.0 flash drive costs less than $25? It's the same exact NAND flash used in the iPhone, except the iPhone doesn't even need to conform to the USB 3.0 specification making it even cheaper. It's basically free compared to components like the display.

It's disgusting that in 4 years they have made ZERO progress as far as storage is concerned. It's pure greed. You can try to fluff it up and make it sound like I am unreasonable, but the truth is, if you spent the same exact amount of money on a phone 4 years ago you would have gotten the same amount of storage, and that's just sad.

Hopefully Apple does move the base model to 32GB. Otherwise, I, as an iPhone user since 2007, will definitely be leaving the ecosystem in favor of a smartphone maker that has the sense to upgrade their phones when the technology is there for the taking instead of just boosting their profit margins.
 
Let me tell you: the day Apple is starting to make 2 GB system memory iPhones, they will want to take advantage of it and then your older 1 GB iDevice will start to suffer and experience lagging... let them design iOS 8 and upcoming releases with 1 GB in mind instead of 2 GB... My two cents.. :)

Yea, i tried making this point a short while ago.... that while it's good to slowly increase capacity over time... it is much better that programmers write good, concise, efficient programs. Didn't seem to go over too well. I only got crickets.
 
This is great news for iPhone 6S sales!

Why?

You think 99.9% of iPhone users are going to delay purchase over RAM? Or even know how much RAM is in the iPhone in the first place? (A spec Apple has never made public itself.)

You know for a fact that the 6S will have 2GB+ of RAM?

Personally, I agree with the others here who mentioned 1GB really isn't a problem for the iPhone. I can't say I've run into issues myself.
 
I was ready to buy the 5.5 inch iPhone 6. Big screen, checked, NFC, checked, but then... 1Gb of memory??? WTF??? Memory, besides processor and graphic card is at the heart of any computer, without enough memory you can't have true multitasking and why else would I want a 5.5 inch screen if not for the ability to run side by side aplications? I'm sorry but I just can't buy this. Not in 2014. The only good thing is that they will make NFC mainstream, but that's all. I'm going Android.
 
This would be a really cheap move on apple's part if this is true. 2gb has become standard in the high end smartphone marker. It would be really unfortunate if apple stuck 1gb in iphone 6.
 
If you're going to place blame on the amount of power RAM draws, then I don't know where to continue to argue with you. Please read quantitative studies/experiments (heck, maybe even anecdotal evidence!) regarding the issue of RAM and battery life of computers.

And I would direct you to read any interview with a mobile phone hardware designer talking about choosing the right amount of RAM.

I wouldn't say we're arguing, you're not even attempting to say RAM doesn't constantly draw power...and I'm not saying page refreshes don't cause more CPU cycles. But it would sure suck to use more power when not using my phone than when using it.

Also, battery life on a computer is hardly comparable. RAM draws an insignificant amount of power for a computer. Not the case with a much smaller battery where every bit counts.
 
I'm sure there could be a nice spin on this:

"Enjoy the same, familiar one gigabyte of RAM experience that you've grown to love!"
"One gigabyte of RAM per screen—just the way it was meant to be."
"Get to the heart of your content more directly without all of that pesky, quickly accessed memory."

They will not say anything, they'll just pretend RAM doesn't exist because specs doesn't matter!
 
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