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Their 20nm "sucked" so much Apple used TSMC instead of Samsung's crap for the A8... I guess so buddy...
Nobody's ever found an A8 inside an Apple that wasn't TSMC... That's the fact bud.
Do you know what the hell you're talking about.

Considering the current mix is 50%, and they produce all A8 chips, that means TSMC is producing about 70% of Apple's chip... That's some "burn" Samsung put on them hey.

When you rant you should normally not talk about something you pulled straight from thin air.

Considering in the end its even possible the TSMC one has the best battery life and the current geekbench seem to be about exact the same (within margins of error for each chip), don't know the hell you're talking about.

You do know the snapdragon 810 has the same exact 8 core big little like the 14nm exynos 7420 right? You do know that the 810 was a complete failure because of tsmc process and ran like a molting volcano compared to the same cores on samsungs 14nm.14nm a9 is being held back to match the tdp and clocks as the 16nm version.

The exynos 7420 in the gs6 is also held back because there was no comp at the time to samsungs 14nm from anyone.

Samsung originally made the 7420 in the gs6 to run at 2.4ghz and my phone with unlocked bootloader and unlocked speed steps scores 6600 in geekbench.

The 14nm a9 can easily run 200-300mhz faster and still hit the same tod of its 16nm tsmc part.

Here is my 14nm 8 core running at 2.4ghz when snapdragon 810 with same cores thrityle at 1.6ghz

And yes tsmc at the time with its 20nm a8 sucked compared to samsungs 14nm.you do know samsung was making the same 14nm chips out now back then right?

Apple could of used 14nm for the iphone 6 and skipped 20nm

 
You do know the snapdragon 810 has the same exact 8 core big little like the 14nm exynos 7420 right? You do know that the 810 was a complete failure because of tsmc process and ran like a molting volcano compared to the same cores on samsungs 14nm.14nm a9 is being held back to match the tdp and clocks as the 16nm version.

The exynos 7420 in the gs6 is also held back because there was no comp at the time to samsungs 14nm from anyone.

Samsung originally made the 7420 in the gs6 to run at 2.4ghz and my phone with unlocked bootloader and unlocked speed steps scores 6600 in geekbench.

The 14nm a9 can easily run 200-300mhz faster and still hit the same tod of its 16nm tsmc part.

Here is my 14nm 8 core running at 2.4ghz when snapdragon 810 with same cores thrityle at 1.6ghz

And yes tsmc at the time with its 20nm a8 sucked compared to samsungs 14nm.you do know samsung was making the same 14nm chips out now back then right?

Apple could of used 14nm for the iphone 6 and skipped 20nm


Man, you have no clue, been in the industry since the 1980s. You have no business even talking!
 
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Man, you have no clue, been in the industry since the 1980s. You have no business even talking!

Wow ok

But let's get this straight are you saying tsmc snapdragon 810 was not a complete disaster? And did not run extremely hot? And suck up gobs of power?

Are you sayings tsmc 20nm was on par with Samsung's 14nm?

Ya tell that to Qualcomm for completely dumping them for the 820

Apple had no choice as samsung was at max capacity using 14nm for there world launch gs6 that every phone had the same soc and could not fill apples need.

Dont think for one second apple didnt want the a8 on samsung 14nm

You can put a 810 in a freezer over night and you cant get it to complete a geekbench run without throttling and that is only at 1.6ghz nevermind 2.4 as the phone would just lock up.
 
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Wow ok

But let's get this straight are you saying tsmc snapdragon 810 was not a complete disaster? And did not run extremely hot? And suck up gobs of power?

Are you sayings tsmc 20nm was on par with Samsung's 14nm?

Ya tell that to Qualcomm for completely dumping them for the 820

Apple had no choice as samsung was at max capacity using 14nm for there world launch gs6 that every phone had the same soc and could not fill apples need.

Dont think for one second apple didnt want the a8 on samsung 14nm

You can put a 810 in a freezer over night and you cant get it to complete a geekbench run without throttling and that is only at 1.6ghz nevermind 2.4 as the phone would just lock up.


There are new devices using the 810. New nexus, OnePlus 2, etc. Ofcourse its being dumped for the 820, technology moves on.

Stop talking like you know things. You dont lol.
 
The early version of Snapdragon 810 was reported to have some overheating issues. But, not any later versions.

Anyway, that’s Qualcomm’s problem, not TSMC’s 20nm. Other 20nm chips from TSMC, such as Apple A8, NVIDIA Tegra X1, MediaTek X20, have been all right.

The 20nm A8 had helped delivering the record-setting success of iPhone 6 last year. The success took a huge chunk of market shares away from Galaxy. Therefore, Samsung PR machine seem to be working hard here to distort the facts.

Basically, a Samsung troll presents false info and logic.

BTW, an instance of Samsung version of A9 overheating and the iPhone 6S must be returned, from a user "Nikos" :
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-6s-overheat-issues.1923008/
 
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The early version of Snapdragon 810 was reported to have some overheating issues. But, not any later versions.

Anyway, that’s Qualcomm’s problem, not TSMC’s 20nm. Other 20nm chips from TSMC, such as Apple A8, NVIDIA Tegra X1, MediaTek X20, have been all right.

The 20nm A8 had helped delivering the record-setting success of iPhone 6 last year. The success took a huge chunk of market shares away from Galaxy. Therefore, Samsung PR machine seem to be working hard here to distort the facts.

Basically, a Samsung troll presents false info and logic.

BTW, an instance of Samsung version of A9 overheating and the iPhone 6S must be returned, from a user "Nikos" :
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-6s-overheat-issues.1923008/

I'd like to see proper statistics gathering. As in, if people are getting overheats, we need to know what they were doing and which processor so we can try replicating it.

I have a Samsung A9 in my 6S, its only gotten mildly warm so far but I dont heavy game on it. I trust if there was ever overheating and I could replicate it, apple care would save me..so I'm not concerned..just curious. For now, Im viewing the Samsung as superior just based on the 14nm construction.
 
I'd like to see proper statistics gathering. As in, if people are getting overheats, we need to know what they were doing and which processor so we can try replicating it.

I have a Samsung A9 in my 6S, its only gotten mildly warm so far but I dont heavy game on it. I trust if there was ever overheating and I could replicate it, apple care would save me..so I'm not concerned..just curious. For now, Im viewing the Samsung as superior just based on the 14nm construction.

Have you done a battery test or Geekbench? If so, can you post your results? I'd like to see why you consider Samsung superior.
 
Have you done a battery test or Geekbench? If so, can you post your results? I'd like to see why you consider Samsung superior.

I think many people read Samsung@14nm and TSMC@16nm and just went nuts because 14nm<16nm. :D

As a matter of fact though, the TSMC seems to be more efficient and has better battery life.

http://unwire.hk/2015/10/06/samsung-a9-chips-and-tsmc-a9-chips/mobile-phone/

It basically said they compared 2 iPhones 6s, one with Samsung and another with TSMC, with both under the same condition doing the same task, Samsung unit always consumed more power than TSMC.
 
I think many people read Samsung@14nm and TSMC@16nm and just went nuts because 14nm<16nm. :D

As a matter of fact though, the TSMC seems to be more efficient and has better battery life.

http://unwire.hk/2015/10/06/samsung-a9-chips-and-tsmc-a9-chips/mobile-phone/

It basically said they compared 2 iPhones 6s, one with Samsung and another with TSMC, with both under the same condition doing the same task, Samsung unit always consumed more power than TSMC.

When using Bing translation, this cracked me up!

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You do know the snapdragon 810 has the same exact 8 core big little like the 14nm exynos 7420 right? You do know that the 810 was a complete failure because of tsmc process and ran like a molting volcano compared to the same cores on samsungs 14nm.14nm a9 is being held back to match the tdp and clocks as the 16nm version.

The exynos 7420 in the gs6 is also held back because there was no comp at the time to samsungs 14nm from anyone.

Samsung originally made the 7420 in the gs6 to run at 2.4ghz and my phone with unlocked bootloader and unlocked speed steps scores 6600 in geekbench.

The 14nm a9 can easily run 200-300mhz faster and still hit the same tod of its 16nm tsmc part.

Here is my 14nm 8 core running at 2.4ghz when snapdragon 810 with same cores thrityle at 1.6ghz

And yes tsmc at the time with its 20nm a8 sucked compared to samsungs 14nm.you do know samsung was making the same 14nm chips out now back then right?

Apple could of used 14nm for the iphone 6 and skipped 20nm



You have absolutely NO CLUE ...WTF you talking about....

Another Samsung troll maybe?
 
Samsung is suspected to spread the rumor of Snapdragon 810 overheating

McDonough posed the simple question “who stands to gain from the rumour?”. The obvious answer is Samsung.

“Everything you’re saying is fair. But we all build pre-released products to find bugs and do performance optimisation. So when pre-released hardware doesn’t act like commercial hardware, it’s just part of the development process.

“I think someone very artfully took that and used it to fuel the rumours and took something that’s completely normal and sent it to some less sophisticated news outlets to give them a story.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jaymcgr...ally-speaks-out-about-samsung-and-snapdragon/
 
Samsung is suspected to spread the rumor of Snapdragon 810 overheating

McDonough posed the simple question “who stands to gain from the rumour?”. The obvious answer is Samsung.

“Everything you’re saying is fair. But we all build pre-released products to find bugs and do performance optimisation. So when pre-released hardware doesn’t act like commercial hardware, it’s just part of the development process.

“I think someone very artfully took that and used it to fuel the rumours and took something that’s completely normal and sent it to some less sophisticated news outlets to give them a story.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jaymcgr...ally-speaks-out-about-samsung-and-snapdragon/

Sure...If there was no overheating issue, they wouldn't have needed to release V2.1 that was specifically designed to alleviate the overheating issue.
 
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