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We want a viable iPad alternative. This was dead on arrival. However much people may have liked the size and hardware specs, the software side was laughably pathetic. RIM ought to bail ASAP. In fact, RIM itself is facing a dismal future with all of its product lines. I sure wish they'd own up to their mistakes, make some changes, and bring back some of their old innovative spirit.
 
Maybe I'm wrong, but isnt it giving the iPad too much credit by claiming it killed the competition? IMO, products like the TouchPad and Playbook didnt fail because of the iPad. They failed because of how poor the product was regardless of iPad superiority.
 
Maybe I'm wrong, but isnt it giving the iPad too much credit by claiming it killed the competition? IMO, products like the TouchPad and Playbook didnt fail because of the iPad. They failed because of how poor the product was regardless of iPad superiority.

I think you're right. Before the iPad, those companies weren't selling a huge number of tablets. Since the iPad... they're still not selling a huge number of iPads. Apple didn't kill anything, they just have been the only (i.e. first) ones to get tablets to sell (by building a quality tablet solution with fantastic developer support).
 
Maybe I'm wrong, but isnt it giving the iPad too much credit by claiming it killed the competition? IMO, products like the TouchPad and Playbook didnt fail because of the iPad. They failed because of how poor the product was regardless of iPad superiority.

Without the iPad they wouldn't of been that bad as there wouldn't of been such a high benchmark to compare them too, so yes the iPad is killing of the competition.

Also the more people that buy an iPad the less people will buy a competing device.
 
Are you sure the Fire didn't kill the PlayBook? Actually, it was probably a combination of Amazon and Apple.
 
Wasn't there a fire sale on Playbooks recently? Also, I guess this means that the Android App integration update and native email support RIM was promising are no more?


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Are you sure the Fire didn't kill the PlayBook? Actually, it was probably a combination of Amazon and Apple.

Who knows what is going on in the minds of the RIM executives, who take every opportunity to make their company more irrelevant. I doubt the Fire did much to end the Playbook project.

And, the iPad didn't kill the Playbook. If you followed RIM's trajectory over the last few years, you know that RIM is apparently an exceedingly disfunctional company that has been years behind in developing its phone products. Ttheir piece of plastic and glass they called a tablet couldn't even do email. You didn't need the iPad or Fire to see that was a debacle.

A lot of us really wanted to see RIM put out something that could compete in the smart phone market or a tablet with a new approach to things, but all we got were tired old ideas. I'd say RIM had internal problems that they still haven't addressed. It's sad, but don't put it on Amazon or Apple.
 
And I gave them 3 months to fail on 1 Sept. Link: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1222688/

And the kinda firesale of the Playbook was here for those interested: http://mashable.com/2011/09/29/best-buy-slashes-blackberry-playbook-prices/

Hey "TheWheelMan" wanna chime in? Guess I'm not so delusional. 😉
It's an overstatement until the Playbook is actually dead. Your delusions of psychic powers aren't that interesting. 😛

The Playbook probably will eventually die I'm afraid, but your "news" is rather uninteresting at the moment.

MacRumorUser... Care to comment on your previous statement?

I don't go around over dramatizing every other tablet that receives a very modest price reduction, and fail to take into account that Rim still have a viable phone Market and that's why it is not in the same situation as Palm Pre and Touchpad.
 
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cnbc just said that halting production of the playbook is just rumor. I doubt it though, rim is dead and has been for several years now.
 
Considering the Amazon Fire is not even out yet that statement is a bit premature.
I dont feel the Fire killed the Playbook since the Playbook was doomed for failure from the start. But it is possible that the fire was the final nail in the coffin considering it is the same hardware but with a cheaper pricetag, a more appealing approach and the backing of a company that offered a promising future. Any chances of the Playbook improving through software would still require it to be sold at a loss and RIM simply can't afford to do that so the Fire may have been their big sign to pull the plug.
 
They failed because of how poor the product was regardless of iPad superiority.
the products are fine, and many even comparable to iPad, the problem however is:
1. price is too high - perhaps RIM would have taken off if the price was at sub $200 level or even $250. the HP touchpad proved that there are many people who just want to do web browsing and email checking and don't need the fancy iPad or can't afford it. this is where Amazon fire comes in.
2. if they can't set the price really low then you better get lots of tablet designed apps. i have rencetly made the mistakes of buying a droid, only to find out that skype and netflix is not working, there is no professional PDF annotating app, medical apps are of poor quality and slow and in general all apps are designed for phones instead of tablets. had HP, RIM, Acer and other companies actually spend $$$$ to recruit developers to make some tablet specific professional apps, the droid tablet would have had a chance.
 
This is really unfortunate. As much as I like apple as, a Canadian thousands have lost there jobs as RIM is based out of Canada.
 
Well,if this is all true of course, don't know how useful this tablet will be if RIM is abandoning it, no more updates, no Android App support, no native email, etc.
 
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