About to send in my unlocked iPhone in for replacement...

[PDE]

And people wonder why there is an anti-hacker/unlocker sentiment in many posts...

Just for the record, I'm not saying that it's alright to fry your iphone in order to get it fixed. At the same time, my experience is that Apple has often denied problems that are very widespread in order to avoid dealing with masses of warranty repairs (Macbook pro display graininess/unevenness, heat issues, warped display bezels, imac capacitors, to name just a few). That is very unfair to high-paying customers and Apple seems to have a policy of trying to ride out issues until the next generation. Not always, but too often.

In any case, my point is that what goes around comes around...

Oh, and let's not pass moral judgement on unlockes/hackers. I don't think that they're anymore inclined to suggest these kinds of tactics than anybody else. In this case, maybe yes, but not as a rule.

 

[megfilmworks]

Heh. I'll take that as a compliment.

Maybe you should reconsider

 

[vega07]

I think this page gives instructions on how to return the iphone to a virgin state.

But is this method guaranteed? Can the apple genius still be able to find out I unlocked my iPhone?

I think I'm just gonna go with AT&T if I'm able to get a new one. This is very tiring and I don't like having to lie to get service...*sigh*...

 

[IDANNY]

virginise the phone completely then say you saw the screen and never activated it. Or just get a pay as you go plan arent they really cheap. Dont actually use it put 5 bucks on it. Then take it in with that.

 

[Sobe]

Just for the record, I'm not saying that it's alright to fry your iphone in order to get it fixed. At the same time, my experience is that Apple has often denied problems that are very widespread in order to avoid dealing with masses of warranty repairs (Macbook pro display graininess/unevenness, heat issues, warped display bezels, imac capacitors, to name just a few). That is very unfair to high-paying customers and Apple seems to have a policy of trying to ride out issues until the next generation. Not always, but too often.

In any case, my point is that what goes around comes around...

Oh, and let's not pass moral judgement on unlockes/hackers. I don't think that they're anymore inclined to suggest these kinds of tactics than anybody else. In this case, maybe yes, but not as a rule.

I weep for our future.

 

[vega07]

virginise the phone completely then say you saw the screen and never activated it. Or just get a pay as you go plan arent they really cheap. Dont actually use it put 5 bucks on it. Then take it in with that.

pay as you go is actually set at a fixed price. like 30 dollars-40 dollars.

 

[lavrishevo]

I think it just boils down to in an individual feels an sense of morality or desire to act ethical. I think we all know that ethics and morality has continued to go out the window as time passes which is quite unfortuante. I personally had some 3rd party apps installed which were ok, although introduced some instability into the phone, but made sure to restore before updating to 1.1.1.

I also have to take responsibility that I choose to modify my phone and hence I need to be responsible for my own actions. If my phone died because of my own actions then no one else is blame except myself. To bad others do not feel the same way.

 

[vega07]

I think it just boils down to in an individual feels an sense of morality or desire to act ethical. I think we all know that ethics and morality has continued to go out the window as time passes which is quite unfortuante. I personally had some 3rd party apps installed which were ok, although introduced some instability into the phone, but made sure to restore before updating to 1.1.1.

I also have to take responsibility that I choose to modify my phone and hence I need to be responsible for my own actions. If my phone died because of my own actions then no one else is blame except myself. To bad others do not feel the same way.

I'm a bit confused. are you directing your words toward me? my phone did not break or die. it has an unacceptable flaw that robs me of my full enjoyment of the device. and although I am lying to get mine replaced, ultimately, I still feel that apple must be responsible for replacing all iphones with the negative black issues.

 

[PDE]

I weep for our future.

Why would you weep?

 

[lonnielove]

Though ethically questionable to some, there has been mention of people placing their beloved iphones in the microwave for a few seconds in order to ensure that Apple replaces it. Maybe that won't work now that Apple seems to be keeping track of phone numbers and will most likely ask for your ATT number...

Why don't we have more leaks from geniuses and other Apple employees? Surely there are lots of ways to leak information without getting caught? We need more people on the inside!

Thats got me thinking now! mcrowave intresting hehe

 

[vega07]

Thats got me thinking now! mcrowave intresting hehe

if you microwave it and they don't replace it, then you TRULY have a brick.

 

[vega07]

I will have an appointment with a mac genius tomorrow. wish me luck guys! I'm so nervous...

 

[fishkorp]

I still feel that apple must be responsible for replacing all iphones with the negative black issues.

no, they're responsible for fixing/replacing all iPhones that are under warranty. yours, however, is not since you decided to unlock it. they said that unlocking voids the warranty, so you knew what you were getting into. apple has no obligation to help you.

 

[PDE]

if you microwave it and they don't replace it, then you TRULY have a brick.

yes, but if you go in there with a hacked phone (and who knows how they are looking for signs - they seem to even accuse people who haven't hacked!), they will immediately deny your claim and register your phone so that it can never get service again. If it has been microwaved, on the other hand, it apparently won't start up at all so chances are they HAVE to accept it for service or, more likely, replace it with another one. I'm not sure if they check the whole ATT activation thing though.

I don't know...neither option guarantees anything, but the fried iphone seems like a better bet to me. I'm not even sure if the microwaving ruins the phone. I just remember somebody (i don't even remember where) mentioned this as a warranty-inducing method.

In any case: I really wish you good luck! Let us know what happens.

 

[vega07]

I decided not to go and wait for the relock app. I read the directions for the relocking process and they're a bit more complicated then I had thought. I did a restore without reflashing the baseband and everything seems like a new iphone (the imei number is correct, etc). the only way by knowing it is an unlocked phone is by activating it and then putting in a t-mobile sim.

I really want to get this done quickly as possible so I have a higher chance of receiving one with 1.0.2.

can anyone translate the relocking process into layman terms for mac os x?

 

[vega07]

no, they're responsible for fixing/replacing all iPhones that are under warranty. yours, however, is not since you decided to unlock it. they said that unlocking voids the warranty, so you knew what you were getting into. apple has no obligation to help you.

then this is where your own morals and interpretation come in. no matter what you say, I still believe apple is responsible for manufacturing iphones with these display issues regardless of what the user has done with it.

but I didn't come here to get a lecture on how morally inept I am. so to those who insist on dejecting me, please just ignore this thread. thank you.

 

[bluedoggiant]

the lg prada is do-able, its like a million times thinner than iphone and has a sleek interface...all for $900+ ($500 more than iphone)

 

[emil2007]

no, they're responsible for fixing/replacing all iPhones that are under warranty. yours, however, is not since you decided to unlock it. they said that unlocking voids the warranty, so you knew what you were getting into. apple has no obligation to help you.

Well I think there might be an implied warranty. Clearly vega bought something that was not fit for purpose.

Emil

 

[PDE]

then this is where your own morals and interpretation comes in. no matter what you say, I still believe apple is responsible for manufacturing iphones with these display issues regardless of what the user has done with it.

but I didn't come here to get a lecture on how morally inept I am. so to those who insist on dejecting me, please just ignore this thread. thank you.

Yeah, a lot of self-righteousness around here. Luckily for those who find it necessary to judge others about the morality of unlocking phones, we don't have access to their lives! If we did, I'm sure we could quickly stop all the whining and condemnation. Unless they're perfect of course, in which case they will go to heaven and we will go to hell for our terrible sins.

 

[bellis1]

Mum is the word.

I am also looking for feedback if the reverse unlock works. I was out of the country paying exorbitant AT&T roaming so I unlocked mine the night the command line unlock came out. AT&T could have avoided this by allowing phone unlocking for customers under contract and in good standing. Anyhow, I'd like to know if any of those methods work so if I run into a similar problem that I can return my phone or get future software updates.

The Apple employees are not allowed to discuss how many bricked phones they have encountered or anything to do with unlocking iphones. And that goes not just for discussions with customers but friends, family, etc.

 

[PDE]

I am also looking for feedback if the reverse unlock works. I was out of the country paying exorbitant AT&T roaming so I unlocked mine the night the command line unlock came out. AT&T could have avoided this by allowing phone unlocking for customers under contract and in good standing. Anyhow, I'd like to know if any of those methods work so if I run into a similar problem that I can return my phone or get future software updates.

The Apple employees are not allowed to discuss how many bricked phones they have encountered or anything to do with unlocking iphones. And that goes not just for discussions with customers but friends, family, etc.

I'm amazed that we don't have more Apple employee leaks around here....they must be very very afraid. I mean, few organisations are able to maintain such a tight discipline. Impressive!

 

[Vegantnt]

ok, so I need some help right now. tomorrow I plan on calling apple to see if I can get my iphone repaired but I need some suggestions on what to say.

my iphone was activated through att pay as you go.
I do have an att number and I'm still under that first month of coverage

My phone was both unlocked and jailbroken

I currently have a sidekick 2 but that plan ends in december.

the only reason the iphone was unlocked was so I could text and use my wifi/music all on one device. when i leave the house I put the att sim back in the iphone and use both devices.

the screen has 2 dead pixels right in the center

I can also have my girlfriend make the call. She plays an excellent dumb blonde (I always get the best service at est buy when she is around)


any ideas?

 

[Rooskibar03]

no, they're responsible for fixing/replacing all iPhones that are under warranty. yours, however, is not since you decided to unlock it. they said that unlocking voids the warranty, so you knew what you were getting into. apple has no obligation to help you.

If I was close by I would buy you a beer.

I couldn't have said it better.

 

[vega07]

ok, so I need some help right now. tomorrow I plan on calling apple to see if I can get my iphone repaired but I need some suggestions on what to say.

my iphone was activated through att pay as you go.
I do have an att number and I'm still under that first month of coverage

My phone was both unlocked and jailbroken

I currently have a sidekick 2 but that plan ends in december.

the only reason the iphone was unlocked was so I could text and use my wifi/music all on one device. when i leave the house I put the att sim back in the iphone and use both devices.

the screen has 2 dead pixels right in the center

I can also have my girlfriend make the call. She plays an excellent dumb blonde (I always get the best service at est buy when she is around)


any ideas?

thread hijacker!!

I would suggest you wait for the relock app. that is what I'm doing. isn't there a pixel fix that you try? I remember reading something like that. I'm not too sure though.

also I was thinking. I used amex to purchase and they offer buyer protection (details I am not familiar with) for accidental damage and some other stuff. there is a chance that if apple refuses to repair/replace the iphone, I can call up amex and see what they can do for me. so you guys should think about this too.

 

[vega07]

no, they're responsible for fixing/replacing all iPhones that are under warranty. yours, however, is not since you decided to unlock it. they said that unlocking voids the warranty, so you knew what you were getting into. apple has no obligation to help you.

excuse me if I am wrong, but I never heard/read anything from apple about voiding my warranty at the time I did the unlock. they really only commenced their warnings a few days prior to the release of 1.1.1. or am I neglecting something else, perhaps some text from their EULA?

but again, I really don't care about terms and agreements right now. I am going to do whatever it takes to get my phone replaced with one that I should have gotten from the very BEGINNING.