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I would say TSMC has the advantage on the battery efficiency as geekbench test revealed.

This is no doubt, the question is just how much ahead for:
1. average user
2. heavy user like game addict
3. Some other cpu intensive app user
 
So this article claims Samsung chip battery last longer in 3D game situation?
 
Those who has SAMSUNG 6S, don't be excited yet..

Obviously, they omitted the Geekbench test in the report without valid reason. This can not be a good conclusion that SAMSUNG 6S is better. I would't buy the story here. Every Geekbench test point out TSMC has up to 50% power efficiency I've seen 28%, 34%, and 51% in this Macrumors forums. And also, I don't think the excuse is what Tom should say that Geekbench is not usually he did for mobile devices. This I will say a flowed test, since Tom knows the debate is about the geekbench and the battery consumption. Also, other sources around the world finds the temperature from SAMSUNG 6s is higher than the TSMC one. His shows completely different. How people would agree it is statistically meaningful?

Another article that covers APPLE's A**.

really? lol That is near right impossible. No way in hell the TSMC chip is getting double the battery life.
 
I'm waiting till we see the headline 'geek bench updated due to coding error' then I'll pass comment

Take it as a joke:
Then people would say first Anand, then TOM, now Primatelabs got a check from APPLE. :) what do you think? :)
 
Take it as a joke:
Then people would say first Anand, then TOM, now Primatelabs got a check from APPLE. :) what do you think? :)

I expect geek bench would receive a big queue and next update will be samsung chip friendly ha ha
 
Those who has SAMSUNG 6S, don't be excited yet..

Obviously, they omitted the Geekbench test in the report without valid reason. This can not be a good conclusion that SAMSUNG 6S is better. I would't buy the story here. Every Geekbench test point out TSMC has up to 50% power efficiency I've seen 28%, 34%, and 51% in this Macrumors forums. And also, I don't think the excuse is what Tom should say that Geekbench is not usually he did for mobile devices. This I will say a flowed test, since Tom knows the debate is about the geekbench and the battery consumption. Also, other sources around the world finds the temperature from SAMSUNG 6s is higher than the TSMC one. His shows completely different. How people would agree it is statistically meaningful?

Another article that covers APPLE's A**.

Actually they just applied the same testing methodology that they designed and use on every phone - outlined in detail here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-we-test-smartphones-tablets,3894.html

They didn't omit the Geekbench battery test by accident, or "without valid reason", but just because they'd previously made the decision that it wasn't the right test to make on these phones.
 
What was the sample size of the geek bench test? It's funny how people want to claim the geek bench test is valid, yet this and any other test showing Samsung is better is invalid. You would think the geek bench is an outlier and should be thrown out since every other test show TSMC and Samsung only being a few percent of each other.
 
really? lol That is near right impossible. No way in hell the TSMC chip is getting double the battery life.
It's from member RonFromOregon. His result was 344min vs 227min.
Mathamatic relationship is not double. Double would mean delta = 100%.
Here is (344-227)/227= 51%. On the base of SAMSUNG 6s, TSMC has 50% longer Battery life while using Geekbench to test the power efficiency between the two chips.
 
Actually they just applied the same testing methodology that they designed and use on every phone - outlined in detail here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-we-test-smartphones-tablets,3894.html

They didn't omit the Geekbench battery test by accident, or "without valid reason", but just because they'd previously made the decision that it wasn't the right test to make on these phones.

Still it's not the excuse because it should add it. Otherwise it's got less credit by issusing the report. It still blurr the picture of what we are debating here.

Take an example of the VW's scandal, people are talking about the diesal emmision, but one report from an agency tested horse power, tire pressure, safety features and conclude that VW is still a good car... Is the agency doing his job? Or the report mean anything to consumers?

And some of us here are then so happy because of the biased test (this is really biased becasue of ommiting the Geekbench test) revealing SAMSUNG is a better chip. All three sites didn't do a further finding why Geekbench can have that much of difference of power efficiency number. No wonder people don't give them credit this time. The suspicious is especially there when looking theire article title. Wired, Anand, TOM's hardware. I know some do believe them. But open your eyes and watch who is stiring the whole thing and try to blur the picture if they are not APPLE.

I am really tired for those who says, normal people's regular usage is 2-3% differnce. Come on, Tech sites, polish your reputation.. Did APPLE tell you iphone 6s can only sell to regular person for normal daily usage?
 
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Still it's not the excuse because it should add it. Otherwise it's got less credit by issusing the report. It still blurr the picture of what we are debating here.

Take an example of the VW's scandal, people are talking about the diesal emmision, but one report from an agency tested horse power, tire pressure, safety features and conclude that VW is still a good car... Is the agency doing his job? Or the report mean anything to consumers?

And some of us here are then so happy because of the biased test (this is really biased becasue of ommiting the Geekbench test) revealing SAMSUNG is a better chip. All three sites didn't do a further finding why Geekbench can have that much of difference of power efficiency number. No wonder people don't give them credit this time. The suspicious is especially there when looking theire article title. Wired, Anand, TOM's hardware. I know some do believe them. But open your eyes and watch who is stiring the whole thing and try to blur the picture if they are not APPLE.

I am really tired for those who says, normal people's regular usage is 2-3% differnce. Come on, Tech sites, polish your reputation.. Did APPLE tell you iphone 6s can only sell to regular person for normal daily usage?

You keep referring to the VW scandal but actually the reverse is happening here. In the VW example it was the synthetic benchmark (the controlled emission testing in the lab) that was giving an entirely false reading, and undue reliance on that benchmark meant the cars were passed for road use - where, out in the real world, they actually behaved quite differently and proved the lab testing worthless. In that case the tests were misled deliberately, whereas in this case the discrepancy may be down to other reasons - but either way, the *real world* experience is what really counts in the end.
 
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You keep referring to the VW scandal but actually the reverse is happening here. In the VW example it was the synthetic benchmark (the controlled emission testing in the lab) that was giving an entirely false reading, and undue reliance on that benchmark meant the cars were passed for road use - where, out in the real world, they actually behaved quite differently and proved the lab testing worthless. In that case the tests were misled deliberately, whereas in this case the discrepancy may be down to other reasons - but either way, the *real world* experience is what really counts in the end.

No. This is not correct.
It was not consumor who cought their scandal. Consumer in real world knows nothing. It was the lab who did the right job eventually. Are you refering Primatelabs' systhetic Geekbench scandal here? Be careful....
 
No. This is not correct.
It was not consumor who cought their scandal. Consumer in real world knows nothing. It was the lab who did the right job eventually. Are you refering Primatelabs' systhetic Geekbench scandal here? Be careful....
It's perfectly correct, I said nothing about consumers, only real world on-the-road testing, which is what caught out VW. It was the synthetic benchmarking (an artificially constructed lab test which VW could detect and defeat), and the industry's undue reliance on that one single benchmark, which led to those cars being sold under false pretence in the first place.

In short the VW scandal is a strong argument against synthetic benchmarking, and particularly the reliance on a single benchmark, in the face of other evidence.
 
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I never really cared about what chip is inside my iPhone 6s. Yes, I did find it out (was just curious, but the result still would not matter at all), and it's the Samsung one.

Fortunately, my battery life is great! Not fantastic, but great. Yesterday for example, I got 4,5 hours of usage and 17 hours of stand-by time, and still over 40% left. Usage was quite much, if I'm being honest. It's not as good as what I had once I had my iPhone 6 last year, but it's better than the 6 currently performs at this point. That makes me a happy iPhone 6s user. ^^

By the way, haven't experienced heat either. At least, not in a way it's annoying. Worst situation was when I updated it to iOS 9.1 beta and I wanted to unplug it. Was really hot then. Could barely hold it, so I let it cool down. After that, everything was cool and I haven't had this issue anymore.
 
I never really cared about what chip is inside my iPhone 6s. Yes, I did find it out (was just curious, but the result still would not matter at all), and it's the Samsung one.

Fortunately, my battery life is great! Not fantastic, but great. Yesterday for example, I got 4,5 hours of usage and 17 hours of stand-by time, and still over 40% left. Usage was quite much, if I'm being honest. It's not as good as what I had once I had my iPhone 6 last year, but it's better than the 6 currently performs at this point. That makes me a happy iPhone 6s user. ^^

Just because you just compare to your own experience but not other people using tsmc iphone 6s
 
Just because you just compare to your own experience but not other people using tsmc iphone 6s

try checking the battery threads, his results compare to the TSMC users with similar use quite closely, looks fine to me
 
Just because you just compare to your own experience but not other people using tsmc iphone 6s
But my point exactly, was that everyone has a different experience. Wanted to make clear that it doesn't matter what chip is inside your iPhone, because the differences aren't huge. What does matter, is that - no matter what chip is inside your iPhone - it performs incredibly well in general.
 
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Tom's Hardware admits they didn't monitor CPU frequency.

So,

it's possible there could have been thermal throttling going on.
 
But my point exactly, was that everyone has a different experience. Wanted to make clear that it doesn't matter what chip is inside your iPhone, because the differences aren't huge. What does matter, is that - no matter what chip is inside your iPhone - it performs incredibly well in general.

I dont see there is any fair real life test yet, so your assumption may be right may be wrong.
 
I think Geekbench Battery test is more "real world" by putting 30% load in core (60% total) than Tom's Hardware full blasting CPU cores 100% non-stop, and possibly causing throttling and other factors impacting results.

Primatelabs calls this 100% power as virus territory and not how most apps use mobile SoCs.

As Ars Technica example demonstrated iOS game Shooty Skies oscillates between 30 and 70 % load depending on how many objects are being drawn on screen.

These are synthetic benchmarks and I would like see some gaming battery results.
 
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