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Over the years it has continued to baffle me, why people who seemingly have it all, looks, intelligence, talent, good health, all the money they could ever need, fame, and a great career, would throw it all away for drugs.

Looks? :p
 
What a surprise.:rolleyes:

Agreed. It must be very, very difficult to spend your life constantly and fully immersing yourself in the characters of unpleasant, unlikable people. One can only imagine the toll that takes. It's easy to see why people who do this often turn to drugs.

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Over the years it has continued to baffle me, why people who seemingly have it all, looks, intelligence, talent, good health, all the money they could ever need, fame, and a great career, would throw it all away for drugs. And the tragic passing of Hoffman appears to be yet another loss of a talented individual, falling in that same category: a death that did not need to happen. They have what most of us never will get in our lifetime, yet make seemingly incomprehensible choices.

Perhaps you'd have to be in their shoes to understand. Very sad nevertheless.

It seems not so incomprehsible to me at all. Actors at the top of their game (particularly in Hollywood) can be paid very well; but don't kid yourself-- this is a difficult, draining, and often damaging career.
 
Someone help me out here.. He plays a major role in the Mockingjay (the next Hunger Games movie), does he not? I thought I saw something on it, but wasn't quite sure..

BL.
 
Someone help me out here.. He plays a major role in the Mockingjay (the next Hunger Games movie), does he not? I thought I saw something on it, but wasn't quite sure..

BL.

According to my daughter, yes he does. Not sure what will happen with the movies now.
 
According to my daughter, yes he does. Not sure what will happen with the movies now.

That's what I thought. Thanks.

IIRC, Mockingjay is the last book in that series, so it should be complete, but I don't know how far in to shooting they are. I guess we'll have to wait for TMZ and CNN to get off their Bieber fetish to tell us.

BL.
 
That's what I thought. Thanks.

IIRC, Mockingjay is the last book in that series, so it should be complete, but I don't know how far in to shooting they are. I guess we'll have to wait for TMZ and CNN to get off their Bieber fetish to tell us.

BL.

My daughter said that they were just 7 days away from finishing it. However, Mockingjay is going to be split into 2 movies and my daughter wasn't sure if they were filming both at the same time or not.
 
Over the years it has continued to baffle me, why people who seemingly have it all, looks, intelligence, talent, good health, all the money they could ever need, fame, and a great career, would throw it all away for drugs. And the tragic passing of Hoffman appears to be yet another loss of a talented individual, falling in that same category: a death that did not need to happen. They have what most of us never will get in our lifetime, yet make seemingly incomprehensible choices.

Perhaps you'd have to be in their shoes to understand. Very sad nevertheless.

People who become addicted to strong downers like heroin are typically looking for peace, ans escape, from something in their lives.

It could be anything from a bad childhood or adult experience to a physical brain disorder where your thought are like moths trapped in a lampshade.

Once that peace is found, very few things can replace it. Some, with the help of family, friends, spiritual advisers, doctors, etc., are able to overcome their situation day to day. But once you love it, it is nearly impossible to stop.

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Agreed. I have very little sympathy for those who ruin their own lives.

He was someone's son, nephew, cousin, and friend. Feeling sympathy for anyone is never, ever wrong.

May your life be free of the demons that plague others.

May you never encounter misfortune that can be so psychologically straining that you'll seek any means of escape.

May you never make a mistake that'll lead to tragedy in your life.

May all of the above apply to all your loved ones as well.
 
My daughter said that they were just 7 days away from finishing it. However, Mockingjay is going to be split into 2 movies and my daughter wasn't sure if they were filming both at the same time or not.

According to the wikipedia article for the movie, which I'm not sure how reliable it is, they were filming them both at the same time, and he was done with the first part and just a week left for his scenes in the second part, so it won't have a major effect on the film.
 
People who become addicted to strong downers like heroin are typically looking for peace, ans escape, from something in their lives.

It could be anything from a bad childhood or adult experience to a physical brain disorder where your thought are like moths trapped in a lampshade.

Once that peace is found, very few things can replace it. Some, with the help of family, friends, spiritual advisers, doctors, etc., are able to overcome their situation day to day. But once you love it, it is nearly impossible to stop.

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He was someone's son, nephew, cousin, and friend. Feeling sympathy for anyone is never, ever wrong.

May your life be free of the demons that plague others.

May you never encounter misfortune that can be so psychologically straining that you'll seek any means of escape.

May you never make a mistake that'll lead to tragedy in your life.

May all of the above apply to all your loved ones as well.

Very well said...eloquent. I was thinking of a reply as I read yours. Nothing else need be said.
 
Glad to hear that you're such a perfect, flawless human being that you can judge others like that.


Not perfect but smart enough to know what drugs can do to my body. I don't feel bad for a grown man who decided to get into drugs on his own accord!

If you want to sit there and cry over a grown, rich man who made bad choice after bad choice go for it, but don't expect me to waste my time on someone like that.
 
Agreed. I have very little sympathy for those who ruin their own lives.

I have very little empathy for those who feel compelled to step on a fresh corpse to feel taller.

I suppose you've never had a friend or relative or loved one who got lung cancer from smoking? Died of a heart attack from not eating right or exercising enough? Made bad financial decisions and died from the stress they caused? Was killed in an accident caused by their own negligence? Committed suicide because of depression?

Every single deceased person you've ever felt sympathy for has died of causes that they had no control over whatsoever? If so, consider yourself a rare, special, lucky (and probably very young) person. And if not, then consider yourself a complete hypocrite.

There are plenty of ways to ruin your life and end up dead that have nothing to do with drugs. Period.

And who is asking for your sympathy anyway? Certainly not anyone who knows or cared about Philip Seymour Hoffman. Don't flatter yourself.

People can never seem to let celebrities be human. Philip Seymour Hoffman's death is two stories. It is the story of the tragically untimely passing of a beloved and talented actor, who brought many people joy. How he died is irrelevant to the fact that he is gone. Do grasp that. The second story is of a human being who was hopelessly addictive and likely depressive, and succumbed to the disease of his addiction. That this human being was a famous actor is irrelevant. Do grasp that.
 
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Apparently Phillip had quite the stash in his apartment.

USAToday.com said:
The actor, 46, was found on the bathroom floor with a syringe in his left arm and bags of what appear to be heroin inside the apartment. Those items are being tested. Police will only say the investigation is continuing.

NBC News and CNN reported that authorities at the scene found roughly 50 bags of heroin, numerous syringes, addiction treatment medication, blood pressure medication, and a muscle relaxant.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2014/02/03/philip-seymour-hoffman-autopsy/5177917/
 
Brilliant actor, I'm curious to see how they deal with the Hunger games movie now. I don't feel bad for celebrity overdoses though, they have the means to get help.
 
Actor Phillip Seymour Hoffman found dead in his apartment

It will depend on how much they filmed of the third movie...
 
I'll be sad to see the back of this talented actor, I really liked him as Brandt in Big lebowski particularly.
 
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There are some sad and disappointedly self congratulatory posts on this thread which are, for me, unnecessary and disquieting.

I'm not defending Hoffman's heroin addiction, nor his responsibility for his own death.

But, for me, posting denigrating and self aggrandizing comments, about how strong and wonderful the poster is, and how these morally superior folks have no time for any feelings of sympathy regarding Hoffman's death are, at the very least, unnecessary in an obit thread.
 
There are some sad and disappointedly self congratulatory posts on this thread which are, for me, unnecessary and disquieting.

Amen to that.

When anyone, be they a talented actor or some unknown person, dies prematurely it is a tragedy. A loss for that person's friends and family, and for society as a whole.

We are all human - and by nature imperfect. We have all made mistakes in our lives, and the wise among us know that we should count our blessings that (so far, at least) those mistakes have not been fatal.

For anyone struggling with addiction, be it to heroin - but also alcohol, prescription pain pills, or whatever - it can be a sometimes insurmountable struggle. The last thing those folks need is the moralizing bragging of people who literally have no idea what they are talking about.

Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged.
 
Addiction is addiction..... its not the substance you're addicted to, its the fact that your addicted to something that your addicted to, be it drugs, alcohol, gambling, prossies.

Addiction is a very contemporary on overlooked illness, and quite often victims of addiction and drugs are actually more likely to be victims of a black market unregulated trade led by unscrupulous individuals preying on the high profit margins of poorly manufactured substances.
 
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