It's not really accurate to call the 5GB loss as a result of "formatting". It's really a 5GB loss due to marketing. And they all do it, not just Apple.It's not only the system, it's also the memory formatting that took about 5gb, just like with any flash drive or storage drive, you never get the full capacity.
It's the same way when ISPs market speeds. They advertise it as Mbps instead of MBPS. Why? Because it seems faster.It's not really accurate to call the 5GB loss as a result of "formatting". It's really a 5GB loss due to marketing. And they all do it, not just Apple.
The conversion from real GB to marketing GB is 93%
I was expecting about 4-5GB not 9GB for system etc. If the system size is the same on the 16GB then I am really really happy about opting for the 64.
That's what I said. The 93% "drop" is not due to formatting, it's due to marketing.A 465 GiB drive doesn't sound as appealing as a 500GB drive so they advertise it as a 500GB drive so it looks like you are getting more space. It's just marketing.
FYI the "system size" is smaller on smaller capacities and larger on larger ones.I was expecting about 4-5GB not 9GB for system etc. If the system size is the same on the 16GB then I am really really happy about opting for the 64.
FYI the "system size" is smaller on smaller capacities and larger on larger ones.
More or less around there.If the 64gb ends up being 55, then what does the 16gb end up being... 12gb?
Yep, somewhere around there, though updates can sometimes affect the amount of usable space.If the 64gb ends up being 55, then what does the 16gb end up being... 12gb?
Apple lists GB for storage but the OS measures in GiB.I was expecting about 4-5GB not 9GB for system etc. If the system size is the same on the 16GB then I am really really happy about opting for the 64.
Not just Apple, as has been pointed out before, it's been throughout the whole industry for a long time, even before smartphones and all that.Apple lists GB for storage but the OS measures in GiB.
Your SE has 64,000,000,000 bytes, which is 64GB or 59.6GiB.
Well OP was specifically talking about the iPhone, which is why I only mentioned Apple.Not just Apple, as has been pointed out before, it's been throughout the whole industry for a long time, even before smartphones and all that.
Which can make it sound like Apple is doing soemething untoward and/or are the only ones doing it like that for some reason, rather than it all simply being an established and accepted way of going about it all by pretty much everyone in the industry, which is what my comment expanded on essentially.Well OP was specifically talking about the iPhone, which is why I only mentioned Apple.
I wasn't trying to make it seem like Apple is trying to deceive people or that they're doing something no one else is. I simply stated that Apple lists the storage in GB, while the OS measures in GiB.Which can make it sound like Apple is doing soemething untoward and/or are the only ones doing it like that for some reason, rather than it all simply being an established and accepted way of going about it all by pretty much everyone in the industry, which is what my comment expanded on essentially.
If the 64gb ends up being 55, then what does the 16gb end up being... 12gb?
16,000,000,000 / (1024*1024*1024) = 14.9GB
14.9GB - 5.58 = 10.32GB free
I didn't really mean it in the sense that's that's what you were trying to say, just that it could be read that way given how it was phrased.I wasn't trying to make it seem like Apple is trying to deceive people or that they're doing something no one else is. I simply stated that Apple lists the storage in GB, while the OS measures in GiB.
The OS is what displays your storage incorrectly. Your 64GB iPhone has 64GB of storage. When you see 55.7GB of available storage, that's actually 55.7GiB, or ~59.8GB, with the OS taking up the remaining ~4.2GB.
Don't think it all takes up 5.58. From what I recall most people reposted having something in the 11.xx GB range free (closer to 12 GB basically).16,000,000,000 / (1024*1024*1024) = 14.9GB
14.9GB - 5.58 = 10.32GB free
For plenty typical users even 10 GB is probably twice as much as they would generally use up. (Not that I think that the base shouldn't be more.)Continuing to sell the 16 gb at this point is just criminal
I didn't really mean it in the sense that's that's what you were trying to say, just that it could be read that way given how it was phrased.
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Don't think it all takes up 5.58. From what I recall most people reposted having something in the 11.xx GB range free (closer to 12 GB basically).
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For plenty typical users even 10 GB is probably twice as much as they would generally use up. (Not that I think that the base shouldn't be more.)