I was being a bit sarcastic, I tried for a few hours and could not find anything that was interesting. I cancelled it because I will probably forget to cancel before the 3 months and get charged. Even Prime that sucks has way better content, and the only reason I have prime is for shopping, $80 well spent
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Ad-Supported Netflix Tier Planned for Last Three Months of 2022, Crackdown on Account Sharing Coming
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He bought the Hard drive, didn't stay he stole it.
Re orange juice (and other juices) - I drink mine mixed with water or sparkling water. Usually at a ratio of 2/3 water to juice. Tremendously reduces the sugar content, lowers my juice spend, and is still delicious. I usually mix two juices + sparkling water (pomegranate + orange). Or a tart cherry concentrate + sparkling water.
I totally agree about watching spending AND the lack f time to watch everything anyway. Definitely a good option to rotate services, that’s what I’ve started to do with the more expensive and/or those with limited content I want to watch. With the exception of Apple TV an Acorn TV, always new things popping up that I enjoy.
I feel like the minority that we still love Netflix. My son is addicted to another brand new cartoon they produced. They make interesting shows often enough to keep me interested. Still feels like a good deal…and they just released Animal Babies…cuteness *100000
Or we could support the law and not pirate…since that’s what civilization looks like. It is possible to not pay for something and also NOT have it.
As someone else mentioned here, the value just isn't there any longer. Netflix had some great ideas, some series that had real long-term promise which they then abruptly canceled (too many to count). Production is expensive, but that's the cost of doing business and creating a substantial base for attracting future paying subscribers. I sometimes wonder if the internal politics at that company.
I do agree with cracking down on the credentials sharing.
I do agree with cracking down on the credentials sharing.
Sounds about right, but the geek in me wanted to check (and if prices were waay off, that's where I ask if people are getting deals/promos somewhere)...
per month rate for monthly vs. annual plans (all plans are for in the US)
Amazon Prime: $15 vs. $11.58
Amazon Prime Video (so just the sub to stream their video content): $9 vs $11.58
Disney+: $8 vs. $6.67
So that's a range of $17 to $23. Fairly close to NF's hd plan, cheaper than their 4K plan, but not so with their SD plan.
Not necessarily. Some DVD/BD purchases come with digital copies of the film. Laws vary on ripping DVDs, but IIRC, that's still allowed. And some folks have shelves and shelves of films and TV series on physical media!
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Netflix has some merchandise sales of Stranger Things. Them metal lunchboxes reminiscent of that time period for one. IIRC, it's not great, but not trivial either.
Ahhh yes, when your business goes south, blame and spite your customers; that always works out. /s
I’ve been contemplating cancelling Netflix for the last year or so. I’ve had a subscription since the early 2000’s The value to me just isn’t there anymore.
I do share my account with a family member. So what.
Content quality has diminished a lot over the last few years. Value for the service is what matters to me.
Perhaps I’ll wait for Stranger Things to finish. Oh, a split season like they did with Ozark ? Come on…. Dragging it out aren’t they ?
Time for me to go….
I do share my account with a family member. So what.
Content quality has diminished a lot over the last few years. Value for the service is what matters to me.
Perhaps I’ll wait for Stranger Things to finish. Oh, a split season like they did with Ozark ? Come on…. Dragging it out aren’t they ?
Time for me to go….
Thanks for pointing that out (now corrected)! Note that the comparisons are still valid. The error was only there from a copy and paste job, and forgot to change those values for the post. They remain correct when I plugged them in my spreadsheet
Netflix is the one steaming service that I always subscribe to. They produce enough good original content to keep me invested and hope for shows that are as good as the ones I love to come in the future. Netflix favs: Stranger Things, Lucifer, Sabrina, Umbrella Academy, Lost in Space, Letter for the King, all the Ryan Reynolds movies, Enola Holmes, Warrior Nun...). That's a lot more than I like for any other one service. but I will have to reconsider if they keep increasing the price. I don't think I can ask my freeloading parents to cough up for Netflix after 18 hours of labor plus college tuition
I don't know how it will work...but I know how it could work to account for these very common use case variations without breaking the model.
Right now, anyone with Netflix can go to their "recent streaming activity" and see what devices are on, what those devices are, and roughly what area they logged on from.
My guess is combining/leveraging those data points to create heuristics to determine likelihood of violating the terms of use/account sharing.
So, for example...both you and your wife travel...do you get new phones/iPods/laptops/echo shows/smart TVs/whatever everywhere you go? I'd bet not, so you and your wife's account is mostly—it not entirely—signed in from a consistent group of devices...maybe your work and personal laptops, phones, etc. Do you and your wife each have your own profile (watch history, recommendations, reviews) on Netflix? Another point of identification.
Contrast that with, say, an account that has 4 different iPhones signed in...showing activity from multiple profiles in multiple states that overlap on the same day....for 90 days straight.
Could each member of a co-habitating family be on their own individual vacations or business travel in different states with no other sign ins from anywhere else? Of course...but it's unlikely—an edge case. That usage pattern would in all likelihood suggest something like parents in one place sharing the account with their kids in a college town somewhere else.
Is that foolproof? No. My guess is that Netflix will create "lenient" detection "triggers"/thresholds that will reset every month or 3...you know, enough to cover most business travel/vacation patterns. Then, when you get a notice that you've gone past too many thresholds and "violated" the terms of use...they'll selectively sign out certain devices or all of them, then clear the "hold". If, after the hold is removed, 4 different devices re-sign in for Netflix from 4 different states in say, 3 days...then that's likely 4 different people, and your account gets marked.
These are overly simplified examples, but what they do will probably be more complex multi-variant triggers that will cross-reference each other. Thinking that that can't be done just because it hasn't to this point is thinking too narrowly.
Netflix was Laissez-faire about account sharing because it suited them during a growth mindset, chasing ubiquity and omnipresence. Who was going to complain when Netflix kept growing and turning in figures that Wall St loved. They never codified that account sharing, however, and I'd bet a year's salary that that was deliberate.
Now, they turned in a down quarter...changing everything. No one should be surprised that a publicly-traded corporation went back on their "word" (the US legal construct of "corporate personhood" aside...a corporation doesn't have a "word" to give...if it's not in a contract, it doesn't exist) when the money is threatened. Following from that, one can bet that they're throwing all the resources behind these sharing detection efforts and considering lower priced tiers with ads. Their legal fiduciary duty to maximize value to shareholders outweighs everything else. They have to do something for shareholders—gross as it is.
There are other stand-alone services but also typically part of a conglomerate (HBO Showtime Hulu). Media is big business with lots of competition and very difficult arena to play in. For Netflix to blame the customer, they’ve seemingly admitted to lack of strategy (from content to M&A) in my opinion.
Thank you for the explanation, though I doubt these people will actually signed up for a separate Netflix account should they get flagged as account sharers. They didn’t pay full price before, they are not going to do so now, and the risk is that even the original account holder may decide to terminate his subscription if he can’t find anyone to split the cost with.
Don’t know where your clown path is but all companies that benefitted from Stay Home during the pandemic are down after opening and down from the fall across all markets.
Peloton, Roblox, Netflix, Disney, Nvidia etc etc etc all benefitted from streaming and gaming from quarantine. They all down a lot.
People, just use rational sense everyone. It’s not hard. Instead of jumping on some angry irrational bandwagon you can look at the bigger picture.
They’ll just add a system that lets you add family members with their own profile password to confirm you are sharing the master account. Apple does this with Family Sharing.
The clown’s path is cracking down on their “shared account problem” that has existed since its inception and making a bad ad supported model. They’re spending money in all the wrong places yet punching down at their customers to resolve their bad content contract and original content strategy.
Being pithy isn’t “angry irrational bandwagoning” but just avoid barfing out an explicit analysis of their situation that everyone save you seems to understand implicitly.
So I've been a Netflix member since 2010. Twelve years.
I've canceled my account. Not much value left for the cost.
I've canceled my account. Not much value left for the cost.
If Netflix wants to crack down on password sharing they should perhaps look internally at their own employees. Imagine my surprise about a year ago after checking my recent streaming activity to find someone in Indiana was logging into my Netflix account. We don’t know anyone in that state nor have we traveled there ever. I changed my password but it makes you wonder since I don’t share my password.
We’ve subbed for the past 20 years or so and we have never complained about the price increases. We are about to cancel due to lack of quality content. Netflix is not what it once was that’s for certain.
We’ve subbed for the past 20 years or so and we have never complained about the price increases. We are about to cancel due to lack of quality content. Netflix is not what it once was that’s for certain.
I find that Netflix’s current woes are due to a number of problems, and cracking down on account sharing is not the panacea they are hoping for.
1) Rising prices. It’s twice the price of a Disney+ sub and easily thrice that of TV+, but I don’t feel I am getting proportionally more value out of it. Especially when I am paying the highest tier chiefly for 4K resolution.
2) Tons of crap content that I cannot be bothered to watch. I am not the sort to rotate my subscriptions, so dumping their episodes all in one sitting doesn’t impact my decision to continue paying every month. Admittedly, netflix still gets my money every month regardless of how much or how little content I consume, but there will come a time when people eventually decide to quit altogether because they will wonder what exactly it is they are paying for.
3) More competition all round, and coupled with rising prices makes it harder for people to justify maintaining access to multiple streaming services. When deciding what to cut, Netflix’s prices stand out the most.
I feel that Netflix is especially more vulnerable because unlike Disney and Apple, they are wholly reliant on subscriber revenue, so any reduction in income will affect their ability to produce new content, which will in turn affect churn, and so on.
It’s still early days, but it could also be the start of a downward spiral we are seeing.