Adding a line to upgrade

[Dwalls90]

What don't you understand about the OP's post??? He will still have data on the other line anyway because this is just like using another line's upgrade eligibility to get him an iPhone. If he decides to not add a line, only one of the two lines has data. If he adds a line and removes the data, he will still only have one line for data. Either way, he just wants to be left with the iPhone 4 on his number.

Thanks, but I very well understand what he's trying to do. My point is that, if this were so easy, many more people would have been doing it all long. I understand his bait-and-switch technique, however AT&T will catch on that he is removing the data plan from the iPhone (and device that "REQUIRES" a data plan), and prompt him either with leaving the data plan intact, or forcing the ETF upon him. Either way, he'll be paying nearly as much as I predicted in posts above.

Will the OP's technique work? From a technical standpoint, yes. Will AT&T take notice and let it slide? I HIGHLY doubt it, seeing as I know of others that have called AT&T to cancel and switch data plans similar to this scenario and have been denied. This is all I'm trying to point out. It is NOT "legal" from the contract standpoint, therefore AT&T maintains the right to keep the data plan intact or force the ETF upon the OP.

 

[elephunkman]

To be honest, I don't recall. I'm pretty sure I swapped SIMs right away so the phone would work on my current number. I think I made my rate changes within a few days.

Honestly, AT&T doesn't care. Their only requirement is that you have a data plan on each iPhone activated. If that's only one iPhone on your primary line, then that's all you need. As soon as your old iPhone is activated on someone else's line, they'll have to get a data plan.

Last year, I swapped the sims at the store. Took my brother's phone and did it at the store and got home before he even got up. The apple guy thought I was weird haha.

 

[elephunkman]

Thanks, but I very well understand what he's trying to do. My point is that, if this were so easy, many more people would have been doing it all long. I understand his bait-and-switch technique, however AT&T will catch on that he is removing the data plan from the iPhone (and device that "REQUIRES" a data plan), and prompt him either with leaving the data plan intact, or forcing the ETF upon him. Either way, he'll be paying nearly as much as I predicted in posts above.

Will the OP's technique work? From a technical standpoint, yes. Will AT&T take notice and let it slide? I HIGHLY doubt it, seeing as I know of others that have called AT&T to cancel and switch data plans similar to this scenario and have been denied. This is all I'm trying to point out. It is NOT "legal" from the contract standpoint, therefore AT&T maintains the right to keep the data plan intact or force the ETF upon the OP.

Yes, but if the OP won't be using an iPhone on that line, he doesn't have to have the data plan on that line. The contract stipulates that any line with an iPhone must have the required data plan. It doesn't say anywhere that data plans cannot be removed. I've done this and even the AT&T rep at my local store suggested this to me last year.

 

[Dwalls90]

Yes, but if the OP won't be using an iPhone on that line, he doesn't have to have the data plan on that line. The contract stipulates that any line with an iPhone must have the required data plan. It doesn't say anywhere that data plans cannot be removed. I've done this and even the AT&T rep at my local store suggested this to me last year.

I was under the impression that he currently had an older iPhone? If he doesn't, then it makes complete sense. The lack of specificity is what prompted me to think otherwise.

 

[gigapocket1]

Att really doesnt care... All u have to do is start a new line... U can tell them upfront while they are ringing the phone up to put this phone on the line u want it on.. I've done this 2x over the last couple of years.. First time was when i dropped my iphone 3g down concrete steps.. We added a line.. And put that phone on my old line.. (never paying for the data for that line). and also well this one is a lil different.. but i took my sisters upgrade when the 3gs came out.. and put that phone on my line.. Soo, it can be done..

 

[Geckotek]

Thanks, but I very well understand what he's trying to do. My point is that, if this were so easy, many more people would have been doing it all long. I understand his bait-and-switch technique, however AT&T will catch on that he is removing the data plan from the iPhone (and device that "REQUIRES" a data plan), and prompt him either with leaving the data plan intact, or forcing the ETF upon him. Either way, he'll be paying nearly as much as I predicted in posts above.

Will the OP's technique work? From a technical standpoint, yes. Will AT&T take notice and let it slide? I HIGHLY doubt it, seeing as I know of others that have called AT&T to cancel and switch data plans similar to this scenario and have been denied. This is all I'm trying to point out. It is NOT "legal" from the contract standpoint, therefore AT&T maintains the right to keep the data plan intact or force the ETF upon the OP.

What part of "I've done this and AT&T doesn't care" do you not understand? In fact, this thread is full of people that have done this. I'm pretty sure I learned how to do this from this forum last year.

AT&T doesn't care because the requirement is that the iPhone have a data plan on it, NOT the phone number it was upgraded from. This is the same concept of using someone else's upgrade to get a new iPhone.

AT&T get's their money either way, just because the data plan isn't on the new line doesn't matter because the data plan is on a line somewhere.

And yes, it is perfectly legal. Once again, AT&T's requirements are that the line with iPhone have a data plan. The data plan follows the iPhone, NOT the phone #. AT&T could care less what phone # it's active on, as long as it has a data plan.

 

[coolguykris]

Based on the 3GS, since you're already an ATT customer, it would cost less to pay it all up front. For ATT customers they could upgrade early to the 3GS for 399/499. The sub. price was 199/299. A difference of 200.00. Over the course of 24 months you would end up paying 240.00. You would also have to add in the start-up fees for an new line. So if you look at it as easier to pay it off with some interest, then it might be worth it. The cheaper way, since your an ATT customer, is to pay the extra up front. This may change based on if they change the pricing plane for the new iphone.

 

[Geckotek]

I was under the impression that he currently had an older iPhone? If he doesn't, then it makes complete sense. The lack of specificity is what prompted me to think otherwise.

Even if he does, that has not bearing on what he does with the new phone.