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If you have to spend more on a component of a device that you won’t be increasing the price tag of, disabling the core for a lower model ensures the cost staying the same. There isn’t any savings Apple is pocketing while the customer paying the same price tag.

I am pretty sure Apple pays per wafer, not per each individual chips. Apple will be able to save money by being able to harvest more chips per wafer with the ability to use 4-core GPU variants instead of just 5-core ones. There could be some chips that works well with 4 cores but doesn't work up to the intended performance with 5 for example.
 
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I am pretty sure Apple pays per wafer, not per each individual chips. Apple will be able to save money by being able to harvest more chips per wafer with the ability to use 4-core GPU variants instead of just 5-core ones. There could be some chips that works well with 4 cores but doesn't work up to the intended performance with 5 for example.
Yep. Most likely they pay per “wafer start,” which means they pay even if 0 chips work on the wafer at the end of the line.

That said, the chances that a defect happens to affect one GPU core and there are no other defects on the wafer other than defects in that one GPU is pretty slim (because of the GPU size). The vast majority of 4-core GPU chips are chips where 5 cores actually would work, but one core is disabled.
 
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I am pretty sure Apple pays per wafer, not per each individual chips. Apple will be able to save money by being able to harvest more chips per wafer with the ability to use 4-core GPU variants instead of just 5-core ones. There could be some chips that works well with 4 cores but doesn't work up to the intended performance with 5 for example.
You may very well be right…except chip costs are increasing every year and so is everything else that is cost to Apple so they can bring be end product for you without increasing the price. Logistics (transportation) alone costs 53% more than last year. None are these costs are reflected on the price the customer pays. So if Apple can manage to “save” money per wafer, that only translates to Apple can have another year without the need to increase iPhone prices.
 
Honestly how fast does a phone need to be? I’d much rather you know, something as luxurious as a phone that can last the whole damn day. Is that too much to ask Apple? Can’t you lay off with the profit and planned obsolescence machine just an inch? You did it for the M1. Let’s see it a phone please. I don’t want or need an iPhone pro max. Just a moderately capable iPhone that will be able to get me through a long day for 2-3 years. The battery packs a damn joke. What’s happened with Apple?
 
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Honestly how fast does a phone need to be? I’d much rather you know, something as luxurious as a phone that can last the whole damn day. Is that too much to ask Apple? Can’t you lay off with the profit and planned obsolescence machine just an inch? You did it for the M1. Let’s see it a phone please. I don’t want or need an iPhone pro max. Just a moderately capable iPhone that will be able to get me through a long day for 2-3 years. The battery packs a damn joke. What’s happened with Apple?
Every iPhone since the 4S will last all day (SE 2020 aside).
 
So it's about as fast as the M1, which implies that the M1 and A15 were being developed in parallel. Assuming the M1X (or M2) is powering the new MBPs, that would imply about a 10-15% jump in performance for the M1X/m2 relative to the A15/M1.
 
We have a faster CPU and GPU than the A14 while using less battery. I will take a modest YOY perf improvement that also yields longer battery life. To me the battery life on the iPhone 13 looks impressive. I am glad I waited out on the iPhone 12 for the iPhone 13.

There is no free lunch here. There are trade offs that have to be made. I think Apple did a really good job with the iPhone 13 and focused on improving battery life while also improving performance.
 
The advantage of A15 is mostly great battery gains.
The battery of their M2 laptops will be pretty freakin phenomenal.
 
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Is 10% increase noticeable?. Is this the beginning of mini performance increases every year?. At this rate it will take more than 6 years to duplicate the current chips performance. Is good, more reasons to not spend money every year on a new phone.
But this makes me wonder about many features that have not included in older devices because they supposedly don’t have enough performance. For example, what is the excuse for not supporting cinematic video on iPhone 12?, 10% less cpu?, really?. Many other features are supported with that 10% extra CPU power?. Multi core slight improvements make cinematic video possible?. Mmmmhhh, I think we can have those features on iPhone 11 and 12. Maybe a little lower res but definitely could be supported if Apple did not restrict the new great features to the new phone every year and capped the older models. I need a class action!
Actually, using the rule of 72, it will take over 7 years to double single core performance. Multi core performance will scale linearly with core count year over year. I doubt that there will be a doubling of core count over the next 7 years to get 4 times multi core performance growth in seven. Then again, it’s hard to imagine we need it.
 
Even higher multi core score 😎


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Do we have any confirmation that the 13 uses Qualcomm X60 yet ?
No but is there any reason to believe it doesn’t? I’d bet big it does.

Also I’m beginning to think at this point, as long as it has any of the latest Qualcomm modems, the apple antenna design is more important. Hopefully they made improvements over the 12.
 
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What is the TDP for the A15 Bionic?

EDIT: I will answer my own question. The TDP for the A15 is 8.5 watts. The TDP for the A14 Bionic is 7 watts.

 
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The advantage of A15 is mostly great battery gains.
The battery of their M2 laptops will be pretty freakin phenomenal.

Battery life gain is from bigger battery more so than the same 5nm node. Even TSMC 4nm in 2022 won't see much of a battery difference compared to bigger battery.
 
I just geekbenched my 12 Pro Max:

Metal: 9404
Single Core: 1606
Multi Core: 4225

So the performance of the new ones is better but not that impressive.

The iPhone 11 Pro Max scored:
Metal: 7218
Single Core: 1309
Multi Core: 3248
 
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Battery life gain is from bigger battery more so than the same 5nm node. Even TSMC 4nm in 2022 won't see much of a battery difference compared to bigger battery.
yes, people forget that the iOS is already as efficent at it can be nowadays...so the larger battery is almost doing 80% of the job, while that refresh rate promotion can be the other 20% thanks to its 10hz while static,reading etc
 
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Graphics: 4-core A15 15% faster than A14, 5-core A15 55% faster than A14

Single-core CPU: 10% faster than A14

Multi-core CPU: 18% faster than A14

While 5-core A15 is indeed impressive, I am not sure rest of the A15 numbers can be called "pretty dang impressive" over A14.
Very expected numbers as it is still a 5nm process. Considering that Intel got stuck for a decade with 5% improvements per year mostly by increasing the power draw of the chip, this is really good.
 
Apple always has a target in their back. Not so much for the other guys.
I met someone a year or two back who was passionately against all things Apple and when I asked them why they said "I don't agree with their stance on manufacturing" which always confused me. As opposed to what? You'll buy a Samsung phone made in the same factory but because Apple comes out with transparency reports on labour ect you boycott them for it? 🤷‍♂️
 
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