Adidas Pulls iAd Due to Approval Process?

I'm one of Apple's customers and I have no problem at all in their stance against inappropriate, annoying, or just plain lame content. I have no issue at all in Apple saying "no" to money to keep junk ads off their platform. In fact, I applaud it.

No, in this case, you're not Apple's customer. You're Apple's product. Products don't get to offer their opinion really.
 
Apple users are a cut above? What exactly? The statement like this by itself shows that some Apple users are full of it.

I'm terms of your standards and expectations. Part of the reason you bought your Mac/iPhone/iDevice. And part of the reason you ended up paying more despite the presence of cheaper alternatives in some cases.


Apple need to find a balance - at the moment it appears Apple are exerting too much control for the likes of its customers.

So they respond by buying more Apple gear??

http://www.cultofmac.com/apple-q3-is-another-record-quarter-may-surpass-ms-this-year/51788

You sure we're talking about the same company here? :confused:
 
I have no issue at all in Apple saying "no" to money to keep junk ads off their platform. In fact, I applaud it.

I very much dislike adverts, but unfortunately there are here to stay, for now. However, I feel the same way - if adverts are pulled for whatever reason and the end result is we don't have to see them - great! :D


I don't doubt your confused:
(1)Did you read that Adidas quite possibly gave up on an iAds due to excessive control from Apple?

(2)Go out on the streets - ask people - "do you like a control freak" - and they'll probably say "No".

(3)Apple have good marketing. Thats all.
 
In the iAds business model the advertisers are the customers, and apparently apple does not understand that. The users are the commodity they are selling.

People keep talking about Apple protecting the customer.

In iAds the advertisers are the ONLY customers. Cryptic feedback and aesthetic denials if happening, will hurt their ability to capture customers. People who use iPhone and iPods and iPads are not the customers for iAds. Seems many people don't understand that. In this case Addidas is the customer, and it seems possible that Apple has treated this particular customer poorly. As someone who has the potential to be an iAd customer, unlike most people here, I find this story disconcerting.

Also there is a lot of ignorance here about how advertising works. People say things here like "Apple wants to make the ads entertaining or interesting." First of all I am not sure Apple ever said that, second of all that is not really a core reason to a successful ad campaign. A humorous or entertaining ad can completely fail. Advertising has a lot of voodoo in it, and tiny little imperceptible changes that the average person would never pick up on in 100 years could change an ad campaign from a complete flop to a rousing success. That is why if Apple is making subjective judgments on ads from a quality standpoint they will likely fail. The people qualified to do that work for Apple's advertising department, and nobody who works in Apple's department is qualified to make that judgment call for every kind of company and marketing campaign in the world.

If Apple's main goal is to make iAds not annoy IOS consumers, they are likely to fail. Their main and really only goal is to maximize advertiser revenue for their publishers, and in turn maximize revenue for themselves. Sure part of that strategy can be to try and take a higher road in order to not turn off people to iAds, but Apple will soon find out that there is no real high road when it comes to that. You can't make ads that are interesting to everyone, and you can't make ads unobtrusive, or else they become invisible all on their own. There are a lot of balls in the air here, and Apple is trying some different things... I don't really blame them.. I just know that some of these things will not work out for them and they will have to change course.

One thing I do like is iAds seemingly is moving away from the keyword-centric model that has strangled the internet for a while now. So much advertising online is keyword centric it is ridiculous. Advertising can be targetted but it does not need to have everything targetted to keywords. People who like to play golf also might be the same people who are prone to buy luxury sedans. So sites that cater to golfers should also show other kinds of products, and not just golf tees or the latest shaft technology.

I bolded things that I've been saying as well. And as Marksman and I are both in the industry - we might just have a little more insight that those that just want to defend Apple or devise conclusions out of thin air.
 
I very much dislike adverts, but unfortunately there are here to stay, for now. However, I feel the same way - if adverts are pulled for whatever reason and the end result is we don't have to see them - great! :D



I don't doubt your confused:
(1)Did you read that Adidas quite possibly gave up on an iAds due to excessive control from Apple?

(2)Go out on the streets - ask people - "do you like a control freak" - and they'll probably say "No".

(3)Apple have good marketing. Thats all.


1) Adidas is an iAd client. They're not a customer. Unless they buy 1000 iPhones for their employees or something.

2) I buy Apple products. I'm not sure how and why I would care about SJ's personality, unless I live with him. Apparently, the customers who buy Apple products (and hand them record quarters) think exacty the same way. Yes, SJ is controlling. Thankfully! This has made Apple more money than anyone could have ever imagined a decade ago. And it's the reason Apple products lead the industry and redefine markets almost overnight.

3) Ballmer? Mikey Dell? Is that you?
 
Some months ago . . .

"Ads??!! What?? Apple is turning into Google!"
"No way! I don't wanna see ads on my iDevice! Waaahh!"
"I can't believe Apple is doing this!"
"Steve is so greedy! All Apple cares about is money! ****** ads!"

Apple:
"Not to worry, it's an additional revenue stream and we'll make sure they;ll be as unintrusive, user-centric and stylish as possible."

The response:

"Well, alright. I guess if Apple will keep quality control . . ."
"Fine, but I'm still against it."
"I hate ads. But maybe Apple can pull this off."
"********** companies always in my face trying to sell me *****! You'd better do it right, Apple!"

*Apple rejects Adidas' iAd (the very ads MR users didn't want to see in the first place) because it's not up to standards.*

The response:

"Steve is a control freak!"
"Companies should be allowed to run whatever ads they like!"
"It's not Apple's job to tell Adidas what to do!"
"I cant believe Apple rejected . . . an ad!!" (the very ad you never friggin wanted to see in the first place.)

ROFL. Priceless.

And to those complaining about Apple leaving $10 million on the table. Do you know how many times in the course of a fiscal quarter Apple makes $10 million? Adidas' little iAd campaign is peanuts. Apple knows when to say NO. THAT'S WHY your iPhone is the way it is. That's why your Mac is the way it is. That's the reason you bought all that stuff. There are going to be a few potential casualties (Adidas) so you can continue to have the experience you do with nice things like that. Don't complain because some shoe company isn't getting along with Apple. BFD. You know who says Yes to everything? Microsoft, Nokia, Dell, etc. Go use their crap, then. What? No? Ok. Then maybe shut up and let Apple do their damn job. You know, the one that gets them record quarters.

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Perfect summary. Some people in this forum just like to complain.
 
1) Adidas is an iAd client. They're not a customer. Unless they buy 1000 iPhones for their employees or something.

You can't be that ignorant on the subject.

A client who buys an iAd is the iAd customer. The end user is the commodity which Apple is delivering.

Make no mistake about this. The iPhone user is not paying for the ad. Therefor - the iPhone user is NOT the customer/client.

If you fail to see this - then you are turning a blind eye to the obvious.
 
If you fail to see this - then you are turning a blind eye to the obvious.

You see, most people don't like being called a product. So they try to pass it off as if iAd was a big service done to end users of iOS devices and that the users are the customer. That of course is a big lack of understanding about about advertising really is.

Users of iOS devices are the product. You're being sold off to the real customer, in this case Adidas. Now Apple is screwing with their customer and its making the news. The products are now all up in arms defending Apple.
 
You can't be that ignorant on the subject.

A client who buys an iAd is the iAd customer. The end user is the commodity which Apple is delivering.

Make no mistake about this. The iPhone user is not paying for the ad. Therefor - the iPhone user is NOT the customer/client.

If you fail to see this - then you are turning a blind eye to the obvious.

If you can't differentiate between a large corporation that takes out an ad with Apple, and the end-user that buys the products (and who is responsible for handing Apple record quarters) then you are turning a blind eye to the obvious. Compared to Apple's revenue streams, iAd is just an addition. It isn't what got Apple to $266 billion in market cap, making them the second largest company on the planet.

Losing Adidas (funny how others like Nissan and Unilever were just fine with Apple) means they're a minor casualty, and chances are, there are numerous other companies ready and willing to play ball with Apple. You want your ad to appear on Apple's device, then you need to conform to Apple, not the other way around. The demand for Apple gear is astronomical, they can certainly afford to make their own decisions re who gets to play in their sandbox. Live with it. Apple seems to be handling their costs vs. benefits of their approach to tech expertly. It's all in the $$$ at the end of every quarter. Do yourself a big favour and start paying attention to reports.
 
If you can't differentiate between a large corporation that takes out an ad with Apple, and the end-user that buys the products (and who is responsible for handing Apple record quarters) then you are turning a blind eye to the obvious.

Ok. keep your head buried in the sand. It seems to work for you. The end user is a customer for the PRODUCT. The end user is not the iAD customer. Wow. Just wow.
 
If this is at all true of how iAds will run it's a joke. Large companies want full creative control on their marketing campaigns and they get it everywhere else.

Apple just set up the iAds environment and get that right but you have zero authority to look at other people's businesses.
 
If this is at all true of how iAds will run it's a joke. Large companies want full creative control on their marketing campaigns and they get it everywhere else.

Apple just set up the iAds environment and get that right but you have zero authority to look at other people's businesses.

Except when those ads are running on Apple's device.
 
Ok. keep your head buried in the sand. It seems to work for you. The end user is a customer for the PRODUCT. The end user is not the iAD customer. Wow. Just wow.

Buried in the sand certainly would be the preferable location. It's not complicated. The consumer/end user is the customer. The restrictions are there to improve the experience for the vast majority of consumers (yes, some here don't like that). That's how aapl makes $$$$. Adidas and others who can't grasp that can pound sand.
 
PERHAPS it contained a NO-NO

as in

ADIDAS=All Day I Dream About Sex

which if it was a hokey ad that contained that it would be in violation of their family values

or

if it contained bouncy boobs or boobs that didn't because of the shocks in their shoes.

or

scratch that

you get the idea....
-david

FYI - I have worked for several magazines and we regularly rejected ads for various reasons. I have also worked as a graphic designer/advertiser and also had occasional rejections to be redrawn and resubmitted also for various reasons. Most of the rejections were situations where concerns over possible rejection were acknowledged though not necessarily expected.
 
as in

ADIDAS=All Day I Dream About Sex

which if it was a hokey ad that contained that it would be in violation of their family values

or

if it contained bouncy boobs or boobs that didn't because of the shocks in their shoes.

or

scratch that

you get the idea....
-david

Extremely Creative. Well done. :apple:
 
Buried in the sand certainly would be the preferable location. It's not complicated. The consumer/end user is the customer. The restrictions are there to improve the experience for the vast majority of consumers (yes, some here don't like that). That's how aapl makes $$$$. Adidas and others who can't grasp that can pound sand.

Answer me this. Who is paying for the ad placement?
If a person or company is paying for a service - does that make them a customer?

Let me know when you get the sand out of your ears.
 
Anyone that believes that iAds exists for anything other than another revenue stream for Apple needs to go learn business 101. Sorry kids - this isn't about you. It's about money.
 
Apparently, it was "creative differences." Just skimming around the net suggest that Adidas had to change up their ad multiple times and Apple wanted what Adidas thought was an inordinate amount control over the ad.

Those who accepted Apple's style, however, have profited immensely - i.e., Nissan, Unilever, etc. Seems Apple knows ads better than even the ad producers themselves! I wouldn't be surprised if they did. I'm totally for Apple taking a leading role in any organization's ad development if it means a better experience on my device. I've seem some of the ad trash around the net, and my first reaction is to cringe. Seems Apple aims to out folks to school when it comes to their ads. Might be better for all of us in the long run.




What Achilles' heel?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Apple-Reports-Third-Quarter-prnews-1588672529.html?x=0&.v=1

http://www.cultofmac.com/apple-q3-is-another-record-quarter-may-surpass-ms-this-year/51788

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1. Exxon Mobil (XOM) - $314.29B
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4. Berkshire-Hathaway (BRKA) - 206.26B
4. Wal-Mart (WMT) - $196.57B

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• IBM (IBM) - $169.20B
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• Hewlett-Packard (HPQ) - $92.93B
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Looks like a lot of people share SJ's preferences.

FINISH HIM!!

FATALITY!
 
Gentlemen, since only the finest cut of ads are selected to improve our product experience, I believe it is our responsibility to pay the sponsors for the privilege of viewing ads which have passed Apple's QC. ;)
 
actually in light of the billions they have, it's a drop in the bucket. Also they have other ad campaigns going on.

And if anyone understands that Apple is all about doing things the best way, it is the board and the stockholders.

So in the end, this likely isn't going to be anything more than a shrug and move on

The millions add up over time. A bad experience at iAds will only send people to Google ads.

If the truth is known, Apple wanted Adidas to create a rich multimedia advertisement experience and Adidas created a simple page with a link. LOL
 
Looks like Apple's about to redefine the way ads are displayed on mobile devices, which inexorably includes the redefinition of the relationship between handset manufacturer and advertiser. Pretty ballsy. In this case however, Apple is putting the end-user of their products before companies. I can't complain about that. And really, my heart doesn't bleed for Adidas. They're a shoe company. I buy some of their ish, but at the end of the day if their content will mess with my iDevice experience they can go take a flying leap. I think their shoes are good for that, too.
 
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