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Okay, this is getting way off topic. Sorry OP, I just looked at the top post and didn't realize you were trying to calibrate a Cinemaview 24". Alas, if there is a way to calibrate with the Spyder 2, I don't know of any solution. :(

@Wolfpup: All non-Apple 27" IPS displays (such as the DELL U2711 you listed) are anti-glare monitors. I'm not saying they are bad but for people who don't want an AG monitor, Apple is the only company that sells such a product. There is no alternative until the non-AG Hazro and Samsung displays come out in the Spring. And DP video cards can be added to any remotely modern PC with PCIe.
 
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@Wolfpup: All non-Apple 27" IPS displays (such as the DELL U2711 you listed) are anti-glare monitors. I'm not saying they are bad but for people who don't want an AG monitor, Apple is the only company that sells such a product.

Be that as it may, that's a good thing, plus it's not only in competition with identical products...people looking at this are going to be looking at a bunch of other monitors too for the most part.

And DP video cards can be added to any remotely modern PC with PCIe.

No they can't. A substantial number of PCs ship without display port, and can't have it added...and that wasn't even my point with that, just that you'd expect more than a single input on another but maybe a $100 monitor. I'd have to have two monitors instead of one on my desk to use this thing, and my main system wouldn't even be able to connect to it (well, without an adapter) and that's ignoring it wouldn't be able to adjust it without hacks, etc.
 
Adjusting brightness control on apple cinema lcd screen

I have downloaded the Apple control panel.zip and Boot camp 3.2 32 bit. What is UniExtract?


Gerald Sr.
 
I have downloaded the Apple control panel.zip and Boot camp 3.2 32 bit. What is UniExtract?


Gerald Sr.

Hi Gerald,

The AppleControlPanel.exe is used to adjust brightness on the Apple LED Cinema Displays for both Macs and PCs. Alas, it appears that you actually own the Cinemaview CV24 (a totally different product), so I'm not certain these tools are even relevant in your case.
 
Adjusting brightness control on apple cinema lcd screen

I appreciated eveyone's help in answering my thread on how to adjust the brightness on the Apple Cinemaview 24" LCD HD Display. When calibrating this display with the Spyder2 Calibrator, I would like to know if it is okay to use backlight because of no brightness adjusting control. Thanks again.


Gerald Sr.
 
I appreciated eveyone's help in answering my thread on how to adjust the brightness on the Apple Cinemaview 24" LCD HD Display. When calibrating this display with the Spyder2 Calibrator, I would like to know if it is okay to use backlight because of no brightness adjusting control. Thanks again.


Gerald Sr.


Gerald, your CinemaView 24 is NOT MANUFACTURED BY APPLE. It is manufactured by CinemaView. Spyder2 works fine with the CinemaView 24. When setting your calibration targets, choose "expert panel". Then choose your primary targets (if you are calibrating to match a MacBook, then select 2.4 Gamma and a white balance of 7800k) and in the lower part of the Spyder screen, you will see the black threshold and the white threshold. Set the white to whatever brightness you desire. Matching the MacBook should be around 180cd. I believe the CinemaView will go as high as 240. Mid-level on a MacBook screen brightness (half of the bar graph) is about 110.

I'm not sure where you bought your CinemaView display, but if you bought it from CinemaView themselves, you should have received an email with instructions on how to download a set of optimized calibration files for you to choose from. I got 6 calibrations when I downloaded it, and some are darker and lighter, as well as different Gamma targets. I like the "minus 1" profile.

Hope that helps.
 
Be that as it may, that's a good thing, plus it's not only in competition with identical products...people looking at this are going to be looking at a bunch of other monitors too for the most part.



No they can't. A substantial number of PCs ship without display port, and can't have it added...and that wasn't even my point with that, just that you'd expect more than a single input on another but maybe a $100 monitor. I'd have to have two monitors instead of one on my desk to use this thing, and my main system wouldn't even be able to connect to it (well, without an adapter) and that's ignoring it wouldn't be able to adjust it without hacks, etc.

Sorry but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
While a number of pc's ship without display ports anyone who thinks it can't be added clearly doesn't know much about computers.

It seems like you're trying to argue a moot point or are just a bad troll.
 
Sorry but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

REAAAAALLY? :rolleyes:

While a number of pc's ship without display ports anyone who thinks it can't be added clearly doesn't know much about computers.

And how, pray tell, would I add DisplayPort to the computer I'm typing on this very moment?

Did you miss the part where that wasn't even the main point?
 
REAAAAALLY? :rolleyes:

And how, pray tell, would I add DisplayPort to the computer I'm typing on this very moment?

Did you miss the part where that wasn't even the main point?

Firstly, extracting the Display control panel from the BootCamp package isn't a hack. It's extracting the file and manually installing it, no hacking or changing of Apple program code occurs. By your argument, clicking "customise" in the installer to only install parts of an application you download is a hack? If you're so paranoid you won't download a control panel that's been verified by many forum members, you really should disconnect from the 'net right now.

Many PCs come with Displayport built in (Windows laptops included), and you can use a Displayport to MiniDisplayport adapter. Almost every desktop PC from the last few years has PCI-E, and is able to accept a graphics card with M-DP. I'm pretty sure there're drivers for most Linux distos too that allow you to control Apple Display brightness.

I know very few people who really need X number of inputs on their display. Apple produces their displays for use primarily for Macs, not PCs. If you want to use it on a PC, you might have to step over one or two hurdles in the process. If you can't cope with that, get a screen from someone else.
 
Firstly, extracting the Display control panel from the BootCamp package isn't a hack. It's extracting the file and manually installing it

Which is a hack. And basically requires OS X (I assume I was talking about the feasibility of using this with other companies' computers, though this was five months ago...)

By your argument, clicking "customise" in the installer to only install parts of an application you download is a hack?

No, that is not "by my argument". You can't tell the difference between one and the other?

If you're so paranoid you won't download a control panel that's been verified by many forum members, you really should disconnect from the 'net right now.

So recommending against downloading random files from a random site makes one "paranoid"? And there's no daylight in between being off the internet completely, and grabbing random files from random sites? Nothing in between there, eh? Just have to get off the net because of "paranoia"? Seriously?

Many PCs come with Displayport built in (Windows laptops included)

Most don't. Did I say otherwise?

Almost every desktop PC from the last few years has PCI-E

And how many computers are notebooks? Or all in ones? Or small form factor systems? Or is the person just not comfortable changing the video card?

I know very few people who really need X number of inputs on their display.

Depends on their setup. I personally know dozens of people with more than one thing connected to their monitor, and often 2 or more monitors for that matter.

Apple produces their displays for use primarily for Macs, not PCs. If you want to use it on a PC, you might have to step over one or two hurdles in the process. If you can't cope with that, get a screen from someone else.

The point being, why? This is a nice display from what I've read in terms of panel quality, but unless you're only going to use Macs, and only a single Mac at a time, I don't think it makes sense. Not when other brands give you more ports, and more flexibility.
 
Which is a hack. And basically requires OS X (I assume I was talking about the feasibility of using this with other companies' computers, though this was five months ago...)

So installing something manually is a hack. Right. That means when you download and unzip a disk image from the 'net, and drag and drop to your applications folder to install, you're hacking? It doesn't require OS X. Infact, you can't even extract .msi files on OS X, so it actually requires Windows.


No, that is not "by my argument". You can't tell the difference between one and the other?

There really isn't any significant difference between the two. You're either using the install program to decompress files and move them to the correct places, or you're using an extractor program, then moving the files yourself. Both methods achieve the same goal. You aren't changing any code, nor breaking into something, thus you aren't hacking. Many installers have options for what you would like to install, just Apple's doesn't.


So recommending against downloading random files from a random site makes one "paranoid"? And there's no daylight in between being off the internet completely, and grabbing random files from random sites? Nothing in between there, eh? Just have to get off the net because of "paranoia"? Seriously?

It'd only be random if it wasn't verified working, and linked to by many people who are using the exact file successfully on their non-Apple computers. You're paranoid that the file others have used without problem on their computers might somehow have a virus attached, but others have somehow managed to avoid it.


Most don't. Did I say otherwise?

Then don't choose an Apple display. That's like buying a Ford, and complaining that it doesn't have the capability to use a Hyundai driveshaft. Maybe keyboards should have Firewire, USB and PS/2 so everyone's happy?

And how many computers are notebooks? Or all in ones? Or small form factor systems? Or is the person just not comfortable changing the video card?


Yes many computers are notebooks, but if you're spending $900 on a display, I'm sure you'd look into whether it was compatible with your computer. If it wasn't, you'd move onto something else. Complaining about it won't make one stroke of difference. Also, someone who's spending that much on auxiliary computer equipment, getting the Apple display because it's LED IPS, would almost certainly be able to install a graphics card.

Single-link DVI can't provide enough bandwidth for a high-res display like Apple's one, so they'd have to use fat dual link cables. Seeing how most people would be buying the display for DisplayPort Mac, the DVI cable would be a complete waste and just add more clutter. Apple sells displays to help make money from their Macs. The vast majority of people won't be buying the display for a PC, so why should Apple waste resources on them?

Depends on their setup. I personally know dozens of people with more than one thing connected to their monitor, and often 2 or more monitors for that matter.

Good for you, for the majority, it's rare.

The point being, why? This is a nice display from what I've read in terms of panel quality, but unless you're only going to use Macs, and only a single Mac at a time, I don't think it makes sense. Not when other brands give you more ports, and more flexibility.

Then wait for someone else to produce a 27" LED IPS display, so you can have a vast array of cables strewn across your desk. I'm quite happy with the single DisplayPort connection on mine, and I have many a Mac. VNC's pretty good nowadays.
 
Wolfpup, while some of your arguments may be valid in principle - i.e., not every single PC on the planet can have a DisplayPort card installed (though a great many can or already have one), while technically correct, isn't really in the spirit of the discussion. If your PC is so old that is doesn't or can't have one added, you're unlikely to be considering a $1000 display anyway.

Downloading a file from Apple and installing it on your PC hardly counts as a hack. Just because it doesn't have a point and click idiot-proof installed doesn't mean its illegal or immoral to use.

You, sir, are one stubborn dude.
 
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